So much for "fighting special interests in Washington".

AP: Kerry Blocked Law, Drew Cash

The Big Dig, the most expensive boondoggle in transportation history. $17 billion, and they didn't even connect the rail lines so you could bypass it! Talk about monumental waste.

"Either you agree or you disagree. Either an American or a Communist."

Shut up, Joey.

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Spare me this R vs. D garbage and just admit there's not much difference between Kerry and Bush, and vote Gary Nolan.

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Save us the Nutso, I'm so afraid of everything, I’m convinced that the "evil" government created the concept of a shadow in order to spy on us, dribble.

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Heck, any politician who ignores the Constitution is guilty of treason - period!

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I find it ironic how you mention the constitution, yet you neglect to mention that the constitution specifically mention what is classified as treason, which is,"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court."
It is not "any politician who ignores the constitution.”

so, I guess just about everybody but Thomas Jefferson is guilty of treason?

For the love of God people, stop this partisan BS.

Bush and Kerry are both Skull & Bones, which doesn't put them any different from say, Ross Perot and Pat Buchanan.

Bush is a war criminal. Kerry is too. So is Clinton. So is FDR. So is LBJ.

Heck, any politician who ignores the Constitution is guilty of treason - period!

Oh, and hey, on the subject of scandals, please, let's remember. Whitewater stemmed from the fact the CIA, Clinton, and Bush I were involved with illegal cocaine trafficking in Mena, Arkansas.

It's all out there for you guys to see. News reports, articles, documents, actual on-tape interviews and secret cameras.

Spare me this R vs. D garbage and just admit there's not much difference between Kerry and Bush, and vote Gary Nolan.

Kerry wont be prez. Period.

Unions have done little to do any of what you mentioned, although trial lawyers deserve a bit of credit here. Unions and their leaders are only looking out for themselves. If they weren't, why do they have to automatically take from the paychecks of workers who may not support them? (And don't give me a line like "the union fights for everyone"; so does the military, but that doesn't mean you have to be in it.)

Yes, NuShoes, EXACTLY. Improving job safety, increasing pay and supporting unions adds up to a hostile work enviroment. Yes, we ALL know that. That's because we're part of the enlightened, near holy few who also know that war is peace, freedom is slavery, and that impaling your self on a rusty spike is buying a new puppy. And oh yes, you like dogs.

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This utter nonsense. Business has left the USA because it can pay workers next to nothing overseas.

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This is only part of the problem, and does little to explain why the problem wasn't nipped in the bud decades ago.

Where were the technology export controls? Where were the tariffs? Where were the incentive programs from the 50's to the 90's (actually, mainly the 60's and 70's), when industry was leaving in droves?

“In the four decades of Democratic control - from the mid 50's to the mid 90's - the vast majority of manufacturering (and nearly all heavy manufacturing) has left the U.S. because you little Napoleonic dictators created such a hostile environment to work in.”

This utter nonsense. Business has left the USA because it can pay workers next to nothing overseas. Also, I find it funny that you refer to your opposition as “Criminal” and blame them for every problem in society. You know, a group of guys in brown shirts with crooked crosses said similar things about a certain group in Germany… Seriously, lay off the hack-eyed, Stalinist tactic of denigrating or insulting your political opponents. It makes you look like the “Nazi/Communist” than the so-called “Napoleonic dictator liberals” you complain about.

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Originally posted by icm91:

[QUOTE]You've got to be out of your mind, corruption and greed are the essence of the rich, aka republicans, your mascot isn't fat elephants for nothing. We're cool, we're donkeys, and when you get out of line, which you often do, it's our job to kick your a$$.

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Corruption is the essence of the Democratic Party. It's not just a disease of the rich (60% of whom, by the way, voted for Gore in 2000). There's a reason why you are *****.

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instead, your president blows billions of dollars on a worthless missle defense system that will in no way protect us from the real nuclear, chemical and biological

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A missile defense system that is necessary because your president, Clinton, handed the most dangerous rogue power in the world nuclear weapons!

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threats known as terrorists, runs up deficits, destroys alliances, make america the most hated nation on earth,

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While the Democrats create, aid, and abet the terrorists and nut cases that we have to deal with. G.W. Bush is Clinton's (and, to a large extent, Carter's, LBJ's) janitor, cleaning up the messes they created.

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whines and cries and blames others for his

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This is a major component of liberalism, blaming others for your failures. That's why it's the party heavily favored by lawyers. Blame everybody else. Spill hot coffee in your lap, it can't be your fault - it's McDonald's, the taxpayers, whatever. Criminal Democrats and liberals are not just happy stealing taxpayer dollars, but money from everybody in sight.

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failures, and slaughters the english language

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How so? Last time I checked, it was mostly Democrats speaking ebonics.

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destroys the nation's education system

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Your buddies in the NEA and FTA did that; they control our education system. We pay taxes which then get funnelled to the Democratic Party because of your crooked union, money that could go towards paying teachers. Also, so much of this money goes towards top-heavy administration, and your union buddies can't even be bothered to allow something so basic as simple teaching standards and re-certification requirements.

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does nothing to create jobs

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Except cut taxes, institute financial and tax incentives to lure business here (you know, that so-called "corporate welfare" you liberals are always whining about).

What have the liberals done to create jobs? You steal people's money and impose Nazi-esque controls over every facet of industry and day-to-day life. In the four decades of Democratic control - from the mid 50's to the mid 90's - the vast majority of manufacturering (and nearly all heavy manufacturing) has left the U.S. because you little Napoleonic dictators created such a hostile environment to work in. Moreover, you allowed jobs to leave this country in spades. You single- handedly destroyed America's once-great industry, and are well on your way to destroying what remains.

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and don't bring up that crap about the 100,000 + jobs created last month or whatever,

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Typical liberal double-standard, which is starting to become synonymous with liberalism. It's Ok to talk about job loss, but not job growth. Because it doesn't suit you. So you don't want to talk about how hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of new small and home-based businesses started up after Clinton's dot-bomb. Sorry, you little dictators think you can control this discussion; you cannot. Your fascism will not work here.

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miserable failure.

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G.W. Bush is a janitor, as I said before. Cleaning up the messes of prior Democratic administrations. That's what Reagan did - and why he was so popular. The liberals ran this country into the ground for 40 years, and that's a mess that can't be cleaned up overnight. In fact, most of it isn't cleanup up and can't be, because you so royally f&%ked this country up.

Nope, Bush is not nearly talented enough to be a demagogue, sorry.

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Demagogue-
A leader of the rabble; one who attempts to control the multitude by specious or deceitful arts; an unprincipled and factious mob orator or political leader.

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Yep, Sounds like Bush to me

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You've got to be out of your mind, corruption and greed are the essence of the rich

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Kerry is a pretty rich mofo.
Kerry, corrupt or whatever, is a Demagogue.

Demagogue-
A leader of the rabble; one who attempts to control the multitude by specious or deceitful arts; an unprincipled and factious mob orator or political leader.

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icm, the Democrats are the essence of corruption and greed. Ever hear of Whitewater? Or, for that matter, look at any Democrat-run city, and you will see little besides corruption, favoritism, nepotism.

Sure, Republican are corrupt too. Politics lends it self by its very nature to corruption of various sorts.

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You've got to be out of your mind, corruption and greed are the essence of the rich, aka republicans, your mascot isn't fat elephants for nothing. We're cool, we're donkeys, and when you get out of line, which you often do, it's our job to kick your a$$.

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BTW, my president didn't blow $100 million dollars in cruise missiles and potentially kill innocent people to cover up the fact he was getting sucked off on the job.

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No, instead, your president blows billions of dollars on a worthless missle defense system that will in no way protect us from the real nuclear, chemical and biological threats known as terrorists, runs up deficits, destroys alliances, make america the most hated nation on earth, whines and cries and blames others for his failures, and slaughters the english language, destroys the nation's education system, does nothing to create jobs, and don't bring up that crap about the 100,000 + jobs created last month or whatever, because that doesn't even keep up with the growning unemployment workforce. In short, he's a miserable failure.

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eah, he blew 84 billion, and he didn't even have a reason.

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He took down a brutal, murderous, terrorism-supporting dictator for that money, a dictator which the Democrats would have allowed to stay in power and continue his crimes.

Instead, the Democrats got U.S. troops into holes-in-the-wall like Kosovo, Somalia, and Liberia.

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So does every soldier who goes home after getting wounded, or serving his allotted time

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Very minor wounds for 1, he recieved 3 purple hearts, yet was only given 2 days rest from survice.

He actually didn't spend a year in Vietnam. He got out on the 3 times wounded ticket.

NuShoes, Whitewater was a bunch of overblown ****. I mean, Whitewater and everything else the Republicans desperately tried to spray Clinton with was such an abysmal failure that they had to pin him with ********. Sad, sad, sad. You have absolutely no proof or even unproved example of Democrat-run cities being more corrupt.

And, uh...I don't think you have to PROVE that Dick Cheney was the CEO of Haliburton. It's a pretty public fact...

Ironically, one of the groups which can be least excused for voting for Bush is one that probably will...soldiers. They've seen war and SHOULD be outraged at being thrown around the world needlessly. THEY should be noticing that Bush is cutting nearly every single soldier benefit.

And...hey, does it matter much if a few Veterans as stupid and ignorant as some of our current soldiers? Kerry still has the Veterans of Foreign Wars behind him.

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Now that U.S. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) is claiming the veteran vote based on his war record, both sides of that story should be told.

To appreciate the dark side of Kerry's war record, you should know a few things about Vietnam veterans.

The public and the press make a mistake when they divide us into decorated veterans like Kerry and then all the others.

We like to think of ourselves as brothers -- those who fought the enemy directly in combat and those who provided vital support in protected areas that were in many cases exposed to attack.

Even today, when two Vietnam veterans meet for the first time, they might say, "Welcome home, brother!" because many were never welcomed home. They met the cold shoulder of an ungrateful nation on their return.

Those of us whose job was combat feel an even deeper sense of brotherhood. We learned to trust our brothers on the ground, on the water and in the air to do the right things to protect one another, a bond that cannot be fully explained in words.

We quietly feared dying in battle, but there was something we feared even more. We knew if we should panic under fire and fail to do our job, we might lose our brothers' trust or we might lose their lives, and this we feared more than anything.

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Emotional plea, yes it's great to understand the dynamics behind soldiers but I thought this article was about Kerry and his "corruption?

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Like Kerry, I have a couple of medals, but who has what medal among combat veterans doesn't make a dime's worth of difference between us. What matters is that we are, for the rest of our life, brothers who kept faith with one another in a miserable war.

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Oh and here we go, he goes and mentions his medals, yet he was previously bashing the press for doing such an act. Oh, but since he downplayed them that some how changes it. This is called subtle messaging, a very sneaky and distasteful form of writing.

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A young Kerry, however, broke faith with his brothers when he returned to the United States. With the financial aid of Jane Fonda, he led highly visible protests against the war.

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So does every soldier who goes home after getting wounded, or serving his allotted time, break faith with his brothers? Also I would like some evidence to support the claim that Jane Fonda funded his anti-war efforts. So far he has not provided anything other then rhetoric.

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He wrote a book that many considered to be pro-Hanoi, titled "The New Soldier."

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Appeal to the masses fallacy, just because "many" considered it "pro-Hanoi" doesn't necessarily make it so. Let alone the writer does not mention one name of the "many" who consider it "pro-Hanoi." And surely such a high claim would have many citations from the book that he is attacking. Let's look here, oh there isn't ONE citing from the book, can you say unsubstantiated claim.
This is a particularly sneaky tactic that a lot of writers like to use. No one debates the fact that Kerry wrote a book, but the author is putting the ball in the reader’s court to back up HIS claim, this is bad reporting and falls under rhetoric. He will use this to his advantage later on in the article.

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The cover photo of his book depicted veterans in a mismatch of military uniforms mocking the legendary image of Marines raising the American flag atop Mount Suribachi in the 1945 battle for Iwo Jima, holding the American flag upside down

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And some how he can read Kerry's mind now, because surely people all have the same ideas when it comes to art.

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Kerry publicly supported Hanoi's position to use our POWs as a bargaining chip in negotiations for a peace agreement. Kerry threw what appeared to be his medals over a fence in front of the Capitol building in protest, on camera of course, but was caught in his lie years later when his medals turned up displayed on his office wall.

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AHH, see this is where the previous use of rhetoric comes in handy, through the power of suggestion he can now make the claim that Kerry publicly supported Hanoi's position because remember in the previous passage he said Kerry's books was "pro-Hanoi". Or maybe he was referring to some kind of public speech or document, but how do we know that exists? Does he tell us of a video to watch, or anything else? Oh yes where supposed to look in his books, but yet the writer conveniently neglects to mention WHERE.

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Many good and decent people opposed the Vietnam War. Many of us who fought it hated it, too. I know I did.

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No disagreement here.

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But like Fonda's infamous visit to Hanoi in 1972, Kerry's public actions encouraged our enemy at a time they were killing America's sons. Decades after the war was done, interviews with our former enemy's leaders confirmed that public protests in the United States, like Kerry's, played a significant role in their strategy.

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So now the writer is an expert on psychology, or sociology?

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Decades after the war was done, interviews with our former enemy's leaders confirmed that public protests in the United States, like Kerry's, played a significant role in their strategy

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Please point in the direction of ONE of these “dozens” of interviews; surely they must be on record somewhere.

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Many of us wonder which of our brothers who died young would be alive today had people like Fonda and Kerry objected to the war in a more suitable way.

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Some of us wonder how many more would have died if they did protest in more suitable ways. Also this is absolutely disgusting; the Vietnamese killed our soldiers, not Americans. They pulled the trigger; to say otherwise is disgusting and flat out dumb.

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Now that it serves his ambition to be president, Kerry reminds the public of his war record daily.

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And conveniently so have you in writing this article.

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But the dark side of that record is not being told. Many Vietnam veterans have taken notice, and many of us will vigorously oppose Kerry's election to any office.

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This dark side, which is POSSIBLE, has not been backed up with enough concrete evidence to make it PROBABLE. And of course we must end with another appeal to the masses fallacy.

And let’s look at the bottom of the article what does it say down their, “Terry L. Garlock of Peachtree City was a Cobra helicopter pilot in Vietnam. He received the Purple Heart, Bronze Star and Distinguished Flying Cross.”

It’s a very sad state in this country when this is what passes for political discourse.