In the United States, 10 different vaccines for chicken pox, hepatitis A, polio, rabies, and rubella are cultured on aborted fetus tissue from two fetal cell lines known as WI-38 and MRC-5. These vaccines are Varivax (chicken pox), Havrix (hep-A), Vaqta (hep-A), Twinrix (hep-A/hep-B), Poliovax (polio), Imovax (rabies), Meruvax II (rubella), MR-VAX (measles/rubella), Biavax II (mumps/rubella), and MMR II (measles/mumps/rubella).

Are you vaccinated?
Does God know your vaccinated?

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Originally posted by Bogey:
Embryonic stem cell research has proven to be unsuccessful

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In the United States, 10 different vaccines for chicken pox, hepatitis A, polio, rabies, and rubella are cultured on aborted fetus tissue from two fetal cell lines known as WI-38 and MRC-5. These vaccines are Varivax (chicken pox), Havrix (hep-A), Vaqta (hep-A), Twinrix (hep-A/hep-B), Poliovax (polio), Imovax (rabies), Meruvax II (rubella), MR-VAX (measles/rubella), Biavax II (mumps/rubella), and MMR II (measles/mumps/rubella).

Embryonic stem cell research has proven to be unsuccessful, while adult stem cell research has showed many signs of success. There is nothing wrong with adult stem cell research because the killing of a human life is not a necessity. Embyonic stem cell research gives a pregnant woman some false comfort, in that she thinks she might be doing some good by having a abortion.

Stem cell research can be so useful in helping save and prolong lives. Modern medicine and science has come along way form where it once was and to just act like it doesn't mean anything or act like it's something bad because some "higher authority" who you can't see and probably isn't there says it's evil is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by uptowngirl904:

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dude i am a christan

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And your name is Hellprincess? You know, somewhere, the Fountain of Contradiction is overflowing.

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actually I'm pretty sure its the fountain of sarcasim

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dude i am a christan

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And your name is Hellprincess? You know, somewhere, the Fountain of Contradiction is overflowing.

thedramaconic did you not read the first post? all of you have most of these vaccines or else you wouldnt be in school.

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Said by djmagnusa: I guess we should stop giving diabetics insulin or the long list of other "fix-a-flat" medical procedures

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That is aside from the point that stem cell research is not guaranteed by any stretch of the imagination to work (unlike insulin) and is mostly a brand-new research field (unlike diabetes).

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Sorry. I admit it sounds good to hear, but it is just sound driven by hope. Quite likely the causes of those diseases it says it would cure wouldn't be removed, and it would be just another transplant except with cells instead of organs. The causes of those diseases would make them come back. Even if this thing works, it would just be a patch, like fix-a-flat. No permanent solution.

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I guess we should stop giving diabetics insulin or the long list of other "fix-a-flat" medical procedures.

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Washington (CNS) "Hype from both sides" in the embryonic stem-cell debate has distracted the American public from other important moral issues raised by the research, a law professor told a Washington conference Oct. 4.

Rebecca Dresser, the Daniel Noyes Kirby Professor of Law and Professor of Ethics in Medicine at Washington University in St. Louis, said the debate over stem-cell research involving embryos has "captured the nation's attention," with "compelling moral arguments on both sides."

Lost in the discussion, however, are considerations of justice both within the United States and around the world, she said.

"There are many competing demands for limited research dollars," Dr. Dresser said. "What value should be assigned to regenerative medicine?

"Is it defensible for wealthy nations to devote those dollars to diseases of the elderly," she asked, when diseases such as malaria and tuberculosis are causing "a high rate of premature death" around the world?

Dr. Dresser, who also serves on the 18-member President's Council on Bioethics, spoke on the first day of an Oct. 4-5 conference on the stem-cell debate in the United States and Germany. The conference was sponsored by The Catholic University of America's Columbus School of Law and the Konrad Adenauer Foundation.

Although many of the talks at the conference focused on how stem-cell research affects the embryo, Dr. Dresser said stem-cell research "raises complex moral issues apart from the status of the human embryo."

When development of the first line of human embryonic stem cells was announced by the University of Wisconsin in 1997, she said, "the public was happy to believe the claims of irresponsible scientists" that therapeutic uses for them "were right around the corner."

As an example of such hyperbole, she cited a comment by Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., that stem-cell research would result in emptying "three-quarters of the nursing home beds in Massachusetts" because of cures.

"The public support would be much less if the research were portrayed accurately," Dr. Dresser said.

She described stem-cell research as "a new tool for basic research, not a sure cure for devastating illnesses."

Exaggeration of the speed with which therapies can be developed is bad for the public, bad for science and will "almost certainly bring a backlash" in terms of public support for scientific endeavors, she added.

The hype also provides politicians with "an easy and cheap way to show their concern for suffering patients," while at the same time allowing them to avoid work on a solution to the problem of "the uninsured who can't get basic (health) services" in the United States, Dr. Dresser said.

"We must not allow the embryonic stem-cell debate to divert the attention of politicians from the burgeoning health care crisis in this country," she said.

One of the goals of the President's Council on Bioethics, Dr. Dresser said, is to "foster a serious, open-minded and collegial discussion" about the moral status of the human embryo and other issues surrounding the stem-cell debate.

"In a few years, a more realistic picture will emerge" about the potential of stem cells, she said. "But then some other line will emerge as the new miracle cure."

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Simply put, it isn't all they say it is, and is only a distraction: a hope similar to the Fountain of Youth. As said by northstar316:

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think of the benefits! we could finally end Alzhiemer's diseas, as well as many others

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Sorry. I admit it sounds good to hear, but it is just sound driven by hope. Quite likely the causes of those diseases it says it would cure wouldn't be removed, and it would be just another transplant except with cells instead of organs. The causes of those diseases would make them come back. Even if this thing works, it would just be a patch, like fix-a-flat. No permanent solution.

exactly, nothing really horrible that I can think of can come from SCR, and think of the benefits! we could finally end Alzhiemer's diseas, as well as many others

Stem cell research can be so useful in helping save and prolong lives. Modern medicine and science has come along way form where it once was and to just act like it doesn't mean anything or act like it's something bad because some "higher authority" who you can't see and probably isn't there says it's evil is ridiculous.

more of the christian (republicans) who are not responding aren't becuase they know you are right. stem cell research is so useful and saves so many lives

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Originally posted by toxicfox:
[QUOTE]dude i am a christan and if we vote it is none of your biss k and do not say any thing bad about god couse he is watching you now.

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oo, I'm really trembling now! I home my house dosn't sink under the ocean! OK, I think we need to shuttup about god, or he might smite us with frogs and acne

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dude i am a christan and if we vote it is none of your biss k and do not say any thing bad about god couse he is watching you now.from:Hellprincess90

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Well, I am still alive.

I think it's reached the point where they see your name and run.

I thought i would have gotten more response from the christians.

why do you have an anarchist avatar?, your a *******

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dude i am a christan and if we vote it is none of your biss k and do not say any thing bad about god couse he is watching you now.

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What the crap? First of all, spell your own religion right. Second, this is not a thread about voting, it is about stem cell research and the irony of Christians being vaccinated. And third, I will say anything I want to about this "God" man of yours because I don't believe in him. It would be like me telling you not to say anything bad about the tooth fairy because she is holy to me.

If we can't say anything bad, does that mean we can think it? I thought God was omnipotent.

dude i am a christan and if we vote it is none of your biss k and do not say any thing bad about god couse he is watching you now.from:Hellprincess90