After the flip-flop charge, the second slam John Kerry most frequently receives seems to be that he's a coward. This term has been thrown around by people on this site, the right-wing pundits of the media, and even the non-partisan people who have been suckered into thinking it.
The main argument for his being a coward seems to be that he exaggerated his injuries to receive his Purple Hearts, which allowed him to return home early. Let's just forget, for a moment, that this is highly debatable propaganda say it is the truth. Let's just pretend Kerry did exactly what he's being accused of: taking great pains to be sent home early.
Would that really be an act of cowardice? If running from a war you obviously aren't winning makes you a coward, then everyone who didn't bother to serve at all is a chickensh!t pansy to the extreme. Kerry didn't have to go to Vietnam at all; he was from a priviliged family. But he chose to go and defend his country. He did what his most prominent critics on "toughness", like Dick Cheney, were not brave enough to do.
To parody John McCain's infamous statement about Bush, if Kerry's a coward, then I'm an astronaut.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
quote: No one that puts himself in the line of danger so that he could help his nation is a coward. But I don't think that just because Kerry was in the war, he should win the election.
Precisely.
quote: Purple Hearts aren't like a pair of Chuck's; you can't just go to the mall and buy them.
True, true. I'm sick of hearing this one as well.
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I know someone else has pointed this out, on another thread, but Purple Hearts aren't like a pair of Chuck's; you can't just go to the mall and buy them.
When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
No one that puts himself in the line of danger so that he could help his nation is a coward. But I don't think that just because Kerry was in the war, he should win the election. Look at Grant: he was a great general, but a terrible president. Just because Kerry recieved awards for bravery doesn't mean he is capable of running the USA.
quote: Kerry didn't have to go to Vietnam at all; he was from a priviliged family. But he chose to go and defend his country.
Agreed. Way, way too much media propaganda from both sides surrounds the issue of if Kerry actually earned his Hearts honestly, so I cannot make a steady decison about what I really believed happened in Vietnam. And Kerry did go to war (a pointless war, by the way--was it even officially declared a war?) to defend his homeland without having to be forced. Those who debate his credibility should give him points for that.
quote: Would that really be an act of cowardice? If running from a war you obviously aren't winning makes you a coward--
Heck no. I'm proud to be an American and to have the privilages that I have been blessed with, but just because I do not support a war does not by any means make me unpatriotic (sound familar...?Hmm...). I would do it, no questions asked.
And I've got to throw in my own little tidbit of information here (I'll get the source for this if anyone wants it): Bush actually said (I think in an interview) that Kerry was the war hero while he was not one. Not that he dissed himself exactly, but I was impressed with that statement.
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quote: kerry is a traitor he served in vietnam then came here and slammed people over there for serving
Wrong. Kerry did not slam the people serving in Vietnamn, but the war itself. This is perhaps the most common war-oriented misconception of the Democratic party. In the war in Iraq, much like Vietnam, we're not against the soldiers who are risking their lives for the cause of defending our country. That's a very noble thing to do, any way you look at it. We're just against the cause itself, and believe that invasion of Iraq was unneccessary. Kerry simply changed his mind. He risked his life to defend his country, saw firsthand how bad things were, and realized that what America could gain was not worth what America was losing. I don't see how this makes him a traitor by any stretch of the imagination.
quote: a purle heart is NOT smething to be proud of i'd be ashamed to have one
This is just typical male eighth grade mentality (no offense to the male eighth graders on this site): "If I was in a war, I wouldn't take no sh!t from any of the opposing soldiers, I'd be mowin em down like a maniac, and I wouldn't be one o them pansy soldiers who let himself get hit!"
Unfortunately, in war, getting injured is often unavoidable, and I think it is only proper to honor those who get injured serving their country. Life isn't like a 007 videogame, where you can take down 300 men without losing a bit of your health.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
kerry is a traitor he served in vietnam then came here and slammed people over there for serving he bought his purple heart and a purle heart is NOT smething to be proud of i'd be ashamed to have one
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