Well, for those of us who don't live in Canada or just don't follow the news in general, a new party has just been voted into power, the Conservatives, with head honcho Stephen Harper leading the pack. Although the Liberal party did tend to not keep their promises and F-up quite a bit, did we really just vote in the Canadian version of George dub-Yah? Yes, yes we did. It's true, Mr. Harper should be given a chance to show Canada and the rest of the world what improvements he can concoct, but from his campaign speeches and plans, he is moving Canada backwards instead of forwards. Our reputation as a country that accepts gay people, women's rights cocerning abortion, and also strongly opposes the war in Iraq has practically been flushed down the can, with Mr. Harper's ideas about conscription and U.S. Iraqi support. Suddenly, it seems as though Canadians can relate with those poor, Democratic Americans that tried their best to vote a slightly saner, more peaceful man into power, but were over thrown by... well, I'm not really sure. Although their voices were displayed through the vote stats, they can only sit back helplessly as thousands more young, underprivledged men and women are sent to Iraq to fight for a cause no one can seem to define. Suddenly Canadian's aren't just the "peaceful" observers from the north anymore... they have boarded that ship that's slowly sinking with no lifeboats in sight. North America (minus Mexico) is going down, captain! A little Titanic-esque, oui? Anyway, that's my rant. Any comments, please feel free to add! Hopefully we can stir things up a little bit in here...!

world war 2 started when the japanese bombed us you dumasses. we declared war on the japanese who were allied with the germans and italians and a few smaller countries and ones the germans had occupied in there blitzkreig across europe. we went to war for our allies in europe, who were getting it up the butt, and becuase we were deliberalty attacked on a large scale. they "woke the sleeping giant", it was a "day that would live in enfamy". please excuse the grammar and spelling.

you think Saddam gives/gave a damn yoggie? all he cares about is covering up his dirty deeds as much as possible. sides most pathogens die in water

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Iran or the bottom of the persian gulf most likely if you did crack and you knew the cops we're gonna raid your place would you keep evidence around?

There is no way that WMDs are in the persian gulf! Are you kidding me? There'd be so many ecological problems.

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Neither was that big ol' war in Europe. We got involved in WWII principally because Europe as a group was our largest trading partner, and the Germans were attacking our shipping. In other words, we got involved in a war because of an economic threat. Remove the economic concerns and we wouldn't have given a squirt of p--- what the Europeans did.

Well, yeah I'll give you that at least part of it was economically-fueled. But, I think it also largely had something to do with Hitler invading other nations freely and placing them under Nazi control. And we got involved with the war nearly 2 years before the U.S., which would, in fact, also make one of your previous posts seem hypocritical, as the U.S. seemed to "thumb its nose" at this war of liberation until Pearl Harbour was attacked. Not to bring down the huge role of importance the Americans had in the Allies actually winning, but I also think it would have become an issue if the U.S. hadn't have joined the war because of these "economic concerns" and Europe was overthrown by the Nazi regime. In that case, I think you would've given a whole waterfall of p---.

Wrong NuShoes we got involved in WW2 becasue the Japs attacked us and since they were allied with the Nazis when we declared war on them we decied to attack their allies who the US was finding out was winning in Europe so we declared war on Germany to bail out our Allies but mainly because they were allies of our main enemy japan

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"War of liberation"? Please, the war in Iraq may have liberated the people, but this was not why it was started.

Neither was that big ol' war in Europe. We got involved in WWII principally because Europe as a group was our largest trading partner, and the Germans were attacking our shipping. In other words, we got involved in a war because of an economic threat. Remove the economic concerns and we wouldn't have given a squirt of p--- what the Europeans did.

It'll never happen at least with congress like well congress it's amazing a senator can wipe his nose much less pass legislation

Puerto Rico will become a state before Canada does.

And I dread that day.

Seems rather hypocritical here. Canada participated in a war of liberation in Europe, but thumbed its nose at another war of liberation, this one in the Middle East. Some much for the theory of supporting freedom and fighting oppression.

"War of liberation"? Please, the war in Iraq may have liberated the people, but this was not why it was started.

and Pam Anderson but we had to send strike teams across the border to save them from the mob trying to prevent them from leaving Canada

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Well flipping back in the history books, Canada helped out in getting rid of Adolf and the Nazis, and also sent troops to Afghanistan. So would that not be helping out? It opposed the war in Iraq because it did not support the cause of the war, which originally was to not only rid Iraq of Hussein but find these weapons of mass destruction which were not known for sure to exist. And, well, we know how that turned out.

Seems rather hypocritical here. Canada participated in a war of liberation in Europe, but thumbed its nose at another war of liberation, this one in the Middle East. Some much for the theory of supporting freedom and fighting oppression.

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That's a good idea. I've never been a big fan of Canada. I always found it kind of pointless.

Lay off, man. THEY GAVE US WILLIAM SHATNER!

it's like New Zeland for the aussies it's there but it dosn't do anything of value

That's a good idea. I've never been a big fan of Canada. I always found it kind of pointless.

Hmmm well maybe we can deter the candian hordes with giant booby trapped hockey rinks

You have a point. My uncle for one keeps a safe full of semi-legal weapons in our basement. It's not exactly comforting.

And those Canadians are wicked with a hockey stick. I don't think even a machine gun could stand up to that.

clpo what is in those states besides nothing? that's right northern rednecks with guns and survialists who have been waiting for just that type of invasion in their underground bunkers 50. Cal Machine guns at the ready

amd even if saddam didn't have WMDs he acted like he did and thus made himself a big ole bullseye for the US

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Iran or the bottom of the persian gulf most likely if you did crack and you knew the cops we're gonna raid your place would you keep evidence around?

Looks like Saddam one-upped us again, eh? If we knew he was going to dump the goods, why'd we barge in through the front door yelling "Uncle Sam! Freeze!"

Yep, that makes a lot of sense to me.

Back on topic, I liked Canada a lot better when it was liberal. Armed border guards? Seriously, a few Canadians with guns could overrun our border easily if they wanted to. Who's going to want to defend Washington, Montana, North Dakota, and so on? Okay, maybe New York's safe...

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Where are those weapons?

Iran or the bottom of the persian gulf most likely if you did crack and you knew the cops we're gonna raid your place would you keep evidence around?

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While those underprivledged men and women I speak of may have the same rights as all Americans, many of them do not have the same opportunities or money in order to fund an education at say Yale or Harvard. I'd imagine trying to send your son or daughter off to university with a $20 000/year pay cheque wouldn't be easy, so many of them choose the army as a way of gaining a free education and valuable experience. It's true, many people choose to join the army freely even when they do have other opportunities, but many turn towards it because of their lack of wealth.

Yes a few but they know exactly what they are getting themselves in to it says in their contract they are told by ther recruiter and it's drilled in to their skulls at boot camp "you may have to fight and die for your nation"

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A nation that lets you kill babies who haven't done anything wrong, but is opposed to you eliminating tyrants and terrorists, is a nation with some pretty screwed up priorities. As for 'accepting hay people', well, not too many people here are calling for the exiling (or worse) of gays, so it's not too bad here.

Who implied that it was bad for gay people in the U.S.? All you need do is look to Providence or San Francisco to clearly see otherwise. As for "lets you kill babies", I don't consider an organism which cannot survive outside of the womb a baby, so in that case, this nation does not let people kill babies. And opposed to eliminating tyrants and terrorists? Well flipping back in the history books, Canada helped out in getting rid of Adolf and the Nazis, and also sent troops to Afghanistan. So would that not be helping out? It opposed the war in Iraq because it did not support the cause of the war, which originally was to not only rid Iraq of Hussein but find these weapons of mass destruction which were not known for sure to exist. And, well, we know how that turned out.