first of all I want to say that I don't like Bush(he makes me sick) but I'd truly like to know what people DO like about him and his policies. Like on the other thread ("if you're sick of president bush...") you list reasons why you dislike him, here people could list their reasons for loving/supporting him...I'd just find it interesting to see the reasons why people support him and what exactly they like about him(because it is very hard for me to understand).

that was very well said...

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Religion makes us vulnerable.

Stargurlpower, i dont know if it makes you vulnerable, however, i find great strength in my faith, sometimes it is the only thing that keeps me going.

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So are you saying you're not a Christian?

::claps for the smart one::

Even intellegent christians know not to wait for god...God helps those who help themselves.

Celtic, we haven't talked for like a kaggillion years...

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Well then obviously you aren't a Christian, so I wasn't talking to you. Run your own life, and see how well it works out.

It has run beautifully, nearly a symphony, I'd say.

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Originally posted by BushFan08:
Well then obviously you aren't a Christian, so I wasn't talking to you. Run your own life, and see how well it works out.

Religion makes us vulnerable.

Well then obviously you aren't a Christian, so I wasn't talking to you. Run your own life, and see how well it works out.

I don't need a God to run my life. I am my own God.

Yes, I am arrogant.

O, so it was extreme for me to say your life will end up in ruins if you don't give God control. What I was trying to say (and apparently I failed miserably) is that Christians should include God in every aspect of their life, so that they can get the experience of an awesome relationship with Him.

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we do have free will, our lives will end up in ruins if we don't give the control to God

Bushfan, i am a christian, and with a passion, however, i will not execpt the fact that i have to give my free will over to god, what i do have to do is give my heart, love, and respect to my god. if god wanted to beable to controll our lives, he never would have given us free will. what he would like, and love, for us to do is to execpt him into our heart, and not give up our free will.

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If you've ever gone to church, you'll see that although we do have free will, our lives will end up in ruins if we don't give the control to God.

That's a scare tactic, they want to scare you into believing in god for the fear of "your life ending up in ruins". I do not believe in god and my life has not ended up in ruins.

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I'm just stating my opinion, and I'm saying that God DID create the universe, whether you believe it or not.

Exactly, that is your opinion. You will never be able to prove that He/She exists, same as I can't prove that He/She doesn't exist.

The biggest mistake of people is to take the Bible at face value. It's authors were not that simple. When the Bible say that God created the Heavens and the Earth, they didn't just pop out of nowhere fully formed. That is not what the Bible says. In the words of one biblical scholar: "The Bible is a subtext within a text." There is more to the Bible than meets the eye. So I advise you not to use it as proof unless you have really, really studied it. For instance, did you know that biblical time is separated into the six days before Adam and the time after Adam? And even though the six days are really 24 hour periods, they cover the countless billions of years since the Universe began? Relativity, my man. Relativity. So if you use the Bible as proof of God, you'll be sorely disappointed. No mere mortal can prove that He exists. But then, no one can prove that He doesn't.

It is you who are full of yourself as to think a mere opinion is fact, child.

No religious book is proof of anything. For all you know, it could be a fantasy novel as it could be real. None of us know the truth. You think you do, but that is your opinion, thus, don't make it seem like a fact.

The difference between fact and opinion? An opinion is, say, the Bible is an easy-to-read book. A fact would be, say, the Bible is a book with many pages on it.

That is a perfect example of how people are so full of themselves. It isn't possible for the universe to just "pop up" one day. The Bible is the proof that God is real, seeing as it has records of what Jesus said. I'm not attacking anyone else's beliefs, either. I'm simply stating my opinions.I'm sorry if it seemed like i was attacking your beliefs. But calling the Bible a "fantasy novel" is rude.

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And God did create the universe, no matter what you think

"There is no God, Nature sufficeth unto herself; in no wise hath she need of an author."

Sorry Bushfan, but attacking the beliefs of others is what YN is all about.

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And God did create the universe, no matter what you think

If I attacked your beliefs by calling the bible a fanatsy book, then you are attacking my beliefs now by saying that some god created the universe.

I don't appreciate the fact that you're attacking my beliefs. I'm not saying you're going to hell am I? And God did create the universe, no matter what you think

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First you say God might not exist, and now you're telling me what He said? If you've ever gone to church, you'll see that although we do have free will, our lives will end up in ruins if we don't give the control to God.

So I'm an agnostic. Sue me. There is no proof for or against God's existence. The Bible was written by man, it is circumstantial in that respect. I have been to church many times, in fact I go every Sunday. I have never learned that our lives will fall to pieces without God. That is pure super-Christian BS said with the intent of scaring people into Christianity. God gave us free will so that we could find him, not to give it right back. How would you like it if you gave someone a present only to have them give it back into your control? Free will is that present, a gift from God unto his people. God does nothing without a reason, so why would He give us free will if he didn't expect us to make use of it?

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He created the world,as it says in Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created the sky and the earth."

Once again pure BS. The Bible is basically the equivalent of a fantasy novel.

You know, I really don't appreciate the fact that you're attacking my beliefs. I'm not saying you're going to hell am I? I'm just stating my opinion, and I'm saying that God DID create the universe, whether you believe it or not.

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He created the world,as it says in Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created the sky and the earth."

Once again pure BS. The Bible is basically the equivalent of a fantasy novel.