He got us in a war
What is your opinon??

someone else who can't spell moron right

President Lincon Roosevelt Bush(not jr) And I cant remember the other ones got us in wars does that mean they're morans? cuz last time i checked Lincon And Roosevelt Were Considered Some of the greatest Presidents our country has had. :javascript:void(0)
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Care to elaborate?

i disagree. bush is not a moron. he is way better than kerry.
he is definently better than hilary clinton who is going to run for president next election.
she is a complete moron.

It is believed by much of the intel community, as well as one of Saddam's right-hand man, Georges Sada, that Hussein sent the WMDs to Syria just before the war began - in much the same way he sent most of his Air Force to Iran prior to the commencement of the first Iraq War in 1990. One more reason to justify taking Saddam down. Of course, anamariza, folks like you not only would love to have this dictator remain in power, but you also would like us to deal; with a double-whammy in not drilling in ANWR and getting a semblance of independance from foreign oil.

that's what I was going to say blue

and ana if you were a druggie and you knew that a cop was gonna raid your home you'd hide your drugs wouldn't you? smae thing with Saddam's WMDs

On the ANWR Bush wouldn't be doing anything it requires a vote of congress and the oild companies would be drilling not Bush. The oil companies say that they know how to clean up after the drilling and will drill with minimal enviromental impact. I'm pretty sure they've invited leadind enviromental scientists and reps from groups like the Sierra Club to form a special over site group on site. This would be a good thing for us as a nation cause we would'nt have to get so much of our oil from the MidEast and other nations. There is proof for sucessful clean ups like strip mines for example one of them is gonna be a pro circuit golf course soon.

I'd argue that someone who spells the word "moron", "moran", is actually the moron.

Kay Bush got not only got us in a war but he got us in a war under false pretenses. Then when there are no weapons of mass destruction he changes his reason to saving the Iraq people from Sadaam. You want proof that Bush is bad for the environment I'll give you proof. He wants to drill for oil in ANWR a wildlife refuge in Alaska. If he did this he would be screwing up the habitat for all the animals that live there. Right now its protected for a good reason so that the wildlife of Alaka can thrive there. I could go into many more example but my post would be way too long if I did. You want more examples noise mail me and I'll give them to you.

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Originally posted by gmusa:
YES THERE HAS BEEN MANY WARS IN THE PAST BUT IF U THINK ABOUT IT THEY HAD A REASON. BUSH SAUD HE IS GOING TO IRAQ TO GET SADDAM HE GOT HIS WISH. STILL HE IS IN IRAQ KILLING PEOPLE FOR WUT REASON!BUSH ALSO SAID THAT THE AL QAIDA HAS LINKS TO 9/11! O GUESS WUT THEY CAME OUT IN THE NEWS THAT THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. SO IF BUSH DOESNT EVEN KNO Y HE IZ IN IRAQ AND IS KILLING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON THEN HE DEFANETLY IZ A MORON!

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Al-Qeada has no connections with 911. hmmmm thats news to me. i think you met saddam. Well let me tell you about that. THAT WASNT THE OFFICIAL RULING OF THE 911 COMMISSION! that was merely a staff report assertion and a staff report that refused to look at any of the collaborations between Iraq and Al-Qaeda and was extremely liberal biased. besides the fact that Bush never said saddam had anything to do with 911. he said that bin Laden and his network had been collaborating with Saddam and Iraq. realize the chairman of the comission also put out a report saying that one of Saddam's colonel's in his Fedayeen was also a prominent member in the Al-Qaeda terorist network. The chairman of the commission modified the "no credible evidence of Saddam relations in 911" to "not proven either way" Did you know that one of the commission members didnt even read the report until the day before it was released? You cannot leave a country right after you took out the dictator! think about it. what do you think would happen? another tyranical regime would rise up and take his place and they might be even worse. We are setting up a democratic nation in Irq. how can you not know what you are doing?

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YES THERE HAS BEEN MANY WARS IN THE PAST BUT IF U THINK ABOUT IT THEY HAD A REASON. BUSH SAUD HE IS GOING TO IRAQ TO GET SADDAM HE GOT HIS WISH. STILL HE IS IN IRAQ KILLING PEOPLE FOR WUT REASON!BUSH ALSO SAID THAT THE AL QAIDA HAS LINKS TO 9/11! O GUESS WUT THEY CAME OUT IN THE NEWS THAT THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. SO IF BUSH DOESNT EVEN KNO Y HE IZ IN IRAQ AND IS KILLING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON THEN HE DEFANETLY IZ A MORON!

What an absolutely genius argument. Got us in a war; therefore, a moron. Yeah, Lincoln was definitely an idiot. FDR; complete bozo.

first off how do i know about milwaukee?!?!?!?!?
i live 30 miles away you moron! and if it wasnt for scott walker, that city would be nothing less then anarachy at its worst.
as for the war. let me first start by saying that WE HAVE NOT KILLED MOST OF THE IRAQI CIVILIANS. and the ones we do kill we weren aiming for them. they arent over there just for the hell of it. news flash people die in war! collateral damage! its happened in every single war! its just the way it is. of course its sad but if it wasnt for their murderous gov't, we wouldnt have been there in teh first place.


for all you coalition haters, i am not imposing my views on anyone. im am sharing my beliefs and am trying to help people see my point.

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To tell you the truth I hated the war idea at the beginning. (maybe it's that teenage rebellious thing that's instilled in me) but anyways. I think I was senselessly listening to Bush saying "it was okay. we got saddam out." but his initial reason to go to war was to get rid of the WMDs. I guess it was partly because that moron Chalabi is just a lucrative, power-hungry man, but I realize how Bush's rashness led to so many deaths and the humiliation of the Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. That was just horrific. I read this opinion article in TIME a while ago.

the whole scandal has forced Americans to look at ourselves in the same way that the rest of the world looks at us: beastly and arrogant.

Bush did not intend this to happen, and I truly don't think he's this maniacal idiot. But trying to get everyone's suppport NOW is just a sign of what he should have done before rampaging Iraq. can this really be sovereignty?

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Yes he does, and just to respond to your first sentence, Bush propossed the thought of logging national park land in the name of "fire prevention."

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Read up on that. It does not involve cutting down every tree. It is a very reasonable and SCIENTIFIC plan of selective logging in order to reduce excessive undergrowth and attempt to prevent massive fires from breaking out.

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You say that not many civilian deaths have occured because of the Americans, well over 11317 deaths of Iraqi civilians have occured as a result of the american army.

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I find it funny how you take Iraqbodycount.net's MAXIMUM number and then put more ontop of it. Notice also how that body count number includes civilians killed by terrorist action. It also includes INSURGENT deaths. Look at the database on that site. Get to know you're sources before making accusations like that.

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you are a complete a s s hole if you can not see what bush has done. besides the fact there havent been that many cuivilain causualties and those there are are were mostly caused by insurgent skirmishes shooting up towns they claim to love and care for.

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Redrepublican, you might want to check the side effects of your daily dosage before posting. Let me tell you that most civilian casualities have been caused by American bombs, missles, and soldiers. You are right by the fact that insurgents have killed some civilians, yet it is miniscule to the amount that the American Army has killed. I am not pointing any fingers at the soldiers, they do what they are told. It is the high ranking members of the army and Bush himself. They started a war claiming to bring freedom and have killed thousands and thousands of Iraqis in the process. You say that not many civilian deaths have occured because of the Americans, well over 11317 deaths of Iraqi civilians have occured as a result of the american army.

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he dose not want to tear down all the trees in America! and is far from wanting to mine wonders of this country. and do you realize how much liberals have done such things.
milwaukee. liberal paradise. 4.6 billion gallons of raw sewage dumped into Lake Michigan and either mayor or governor plans to do nothing about it except make milwaukee an even bigger stink pot.this state is run by liberals

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Yes he does, and just to respond to your first sentence, Bush propossed the thought of logging national park land in the name of "fire prevention." But anyway, let me tell of your stupid comment on Milwaukee. First of all, how do you know Milwaukee is a "liberal paradise?" Do you know the opinion of every single person in Milwaukee? And you obviously dont know who to put the blame on because you point fingers both on the governer and mayor. But Bush's Envirorment policy is terrible for lack of better reference. He is pro-industry and promotes "Business first, enviorment later." All the members of his cabinet that are in charge of Forests, Water, Mineral Land, Alaska, and goverment regulations all have previously rallied for poluters of those types of land. I'll let this animation explain it to you:
Right here.

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Originally posted by JusticeConservativism:
“I think our economy is shot and needs to be fixed.”

I have no idea why so many people seem to think the economy is so horrible, when in reality inflation, growth, consumer confidence, jobless claims, etc. have all been improving dramatically over the past few months. In fact, as I’ve mentioned before on this site, the economy is actually healthier now than during much of the Clinton years - and stronger than the economy was when Bill Clinton was running for re-election in 1996. Economist J. Edward Carterhttp://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_comment/carter200402260852.asp. Here’s the chart the article provided:

http://www.nationalreview.com/images/chart_carter2-25.gif

In fact, there is an overwhelming amount of information out there that IMO completely debunks the claim that the economy isn’t recovering (quite the opposite, according to many it may be booming right now!). Here's some information that may change your mind on the economy:

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/040401/1/3j7km.html

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20040325/D81HE2VO0.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/22/national/22WELF.html?

http://cbs.marke****ch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7BE5988F25%2D4D60%2D41AC%2DB2A4%

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=businessNews&storyID=4601036

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-02-16-whatfixedit_x.htm

http://jec.senate.gov/_files/GDPQ42003.pdf

http://data.bls.gov/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?request_action=wh&graph_name=LN_cpsbref3

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True right wing propaganda, a better table would show the starting unemployment rate(When they took office) and the ending rate, plus the difference.

Here's a good example, though not what I said.

http://data.bls.gov/labjava/servlets/graphics/generated_graphs/LNU04000000_344_1085990748742.gif

As you can see, Unemployment dropped under Clinton, after starting so much higher, after 8 years of Clinton, Bush has had Unemployment continue to rise. Also, they unemployment stat is controversial, because it doesn't include people not looking for work, and I know a lot of people who have stopped looking in the past 3 years or so, not mention myself.

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http://www.bls.gov/cps/home.htm

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our economy has been the strongest it has been in thirty years. joblessness is decreasing and the increase in jobs is entering its third month above average. Hiring is up for its third month. 248,000 employed just in May. Manufactrurers have gained 32,000 workers and 91,000 total this year. Job bains are mounting you are a fol oif you cannot see that.

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Bush lacks adequate intellectual substance is better. Moron is just sinking to his level.

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Bush and his cabinet are among the smartest people in America if not the world. Condie Rice, Colin Powell, Thompson, and Bush himself are among the smartest people this world will have the privelege to see.

did you know that most of the liberal hollywood stars who have been ripping and ripping on Bush and war are merely high school drop outs that know nothing of politics?
take Ronald Reagen a movie star and a super liberal and didnt know anything about government or politics until he became governor and found out what the dems really stand for and changed to Republican.
and has become one of the greatest merican presidents of all time.
dont be a fool and say that Bush isnt smart but quite the contrary.

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Originally posted by anamariza:
I couldn't agree more. He got us into a war that cost many American and Iraqui lives. Many of the Iraqui lives were innocent civilians. Then there is the whole Afghanistan thing, often called the Hidden or Forgotten War. Then what about his environmental policies. He thinks it would be a good idea to cut down every tree and mine nationally protected places of beauty. What I want to know is how he ever got elected in the first place? Oh well. That's Bush for you.

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you are a complete a s s hole if you can not see what bush has done. besides the fact there havent been that many cuivilain causualties and those there are are were mostly caused by insurgent skirmishes shooting up towns they claim to love and care for.
he dose not want to tear down all the trees in America! and is far from wanting to mine wonders of this country. and do you realize how much liberals have done such things.
milwaukee. liberal paradise. 4.6 billion gallons of raw sewage dumped into Lake Michigan and either mayor or governor plans to do nothing about it except make milwaukee an even bigger stink pot.this state is run by liberals. i would hate to see what would happen if America was run by a bunch of moron liberals. take that for republicans having bad environmental policies. look at your own kind.
Bush was elected by the people of America and i myself think that for one they have picked and reasonalbe and sound leader.

My dad is in Iraq fighting right now for our freedom. I know he wants to be home with his family, but I would rather him be fighting terrorism over-seas than have him at home knowing that nothing is being done to prevent more terrorist attacks. Maybe it would be good if we pulled out of Iraq and Bush didn't get elected; because all of the people exercizing their right to free speech by criticizing Bush and our country would realize that, when we have been pretty much overtaken by terrorists and none of us can enjoy the priviledges we currently have today, they will finally realize how good we all had it. I might be the only one...but I thank God everyday for letting me be born in America and being free to do pretty much anything I want. Bottom line: terrorists jeapordize our freedom and security. Our soldiers are fighting against them so we can sit around on our butts and post on message boards. I for one am really proud of my dad and all of the troops overseas. And Bush for having the guts to do something to protect our freedom.