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Registered: May 19, 2005
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do you think taht the death penalty really works? does it honestly solve anything? Maybe it does..what are your views on the death penalty?
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Registered: March 03, 2005
Posts: 527
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you know ive actually thought of that before too. you mean the kind of stuff like "if i die will the world end?" right?
peace and equality
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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No, I'm not religious at all. I'm a Sadist New Agey Agnostic who thinks I am my own God.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: January 25, 2004
Posts: 41
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CelticNewAger, Are you religious and if so what denomination? I'm curious, because your religious beliefs may be what is influencing your opinion. Not that it's a bad thing I'm just wondering so maybe I'll be able to better understand your point of view.
~~~From the mind of westcoast0710:Viva cada día como si eran su último, para podría ser hoy su último podría ser mañana y ayer su último hoy.
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Registered: January 22, 2005
Posts: 716
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The only problem i think it solves is overpopulation. Not the right problem.
Only simple and quiet words will ripen of themselves. For a whirlwind does not last a whole morning, nor does a sudden shower last the entire day.
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Registered: March 03, 2005
Posts: 527
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i just think god sends us here to do what we want and at the end of our lives, when we stand before him, on the day of our judgement, that is the only real time god shows himself.
peace and equality
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Registered: May 29, 2005
Posts: 216
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If God takes life than he's an Indian giver.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Why would God kill his creation?
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 29, 2005
Posts: 216
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They're saying only God should kill, but that's weird. Does that only apply to humans? To my knowledge animals kill each other all the time.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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To those who say only God can kill... Did God ever want to create killers? Are killers God because they kill? I don't get it.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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quote: Originally posted by panterayall: what she meant was she does not want any harm to come to anyone because everyone is gods child.
And it is up to God to save them, not us.
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Registered: March 03, 2005
Posts: 527
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what she meant was she does not want any harm to come to anyone because everyone is gods child.
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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quote: Originally posted by ilovebush: okay wow...I didnt understand any of that because that is the longest sentence I have ever seen. If you dont mind, I really want to hear our argument, but it needs to have some periods and grammar added to it. Thanks.
Ditto.
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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quote: Originally posted by Westcoast0710: ilovebush and reactionary05, if you'll notice when you quoted me i said only God SHOULD take life away i didn't say that always happens and i know at this point our nation and the rest of the world can only solve their problems by war i know this i don't agree with this but i know it's true and as far as self-defense goes i believe that even in those cases i don't agree with it because you're still killing another human even in my case if it came down to it i would probably defend myself even if it meant killing someone but i still wouldn't be okay with it and people don't need the death penalty, punishment yes, but not the death penalty think about it like this if your brother was being considered for the death penalty would you want him killed even if you thought he deserved it (if you have any humane compassion and a heart) you wouldn't want him killed well that's how i consider everyone in this world they are all my family because i believe we were all created by God and we're all his children so i definitley don't agree with murder at all. and yes the death penalty is murder despite what the judicial court defines the death penalty as because they also define murder as the killing of another human.
okay wow...I didnt understand any of that because that is the longest sentence I have ever seen. If you dont mind, I really want to hear our argument, but it needs to have some periods and grammar added to it. Thanks.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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Registered: June 05, 2005
Posts: 1
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quote: Originally posted by Jookly: very small percentage of people get the death penalty. People consistantly serving as little as 10 years for murder while drug dealers get put in jail for ridiculous minimums, on the other hand, is a travesty of justice.
While a small percentage of people actually recieve the death penalty, the fact is that death rows cost around $60k PER prisoner just to house. It is strange that a country that prides itself on freedom and democracy also has one of the only justice systems in the world that puts people to death, as well that the response often to a life of victimization and empoverishment is being put to death by the state. Just a random fact as of 2000 43% of inmates were black while 13% of the US population is black... In addition the fact that politicians declare our society as one with a "culture of life" is at the very least, disconcerting, when examining the death penalty as well as the amount of others death at the hands of the state (police, starvation, war, targeted killing). That the system is actually called the "justice" system is the travesty given that its mission is not justice, that we spend more money on prisons than on schools is not justice, 68% of US prisoners had a GED or less...
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1708
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very small percentage of people get the death penalty. People consistantly serving as little as 10 years for murder while drug dealers get put in jail for ridiculous minimums, on the other hand, is a travesty of justice.
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Registered: January 25, 2004
Posts: 41
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ilovebush and reactionary05, if you'll notice when you quoted me i said only God SHOULD take life away i didn't say that always happens and i know at this point our nation and the rest of the world can only solve their problems by war i know this i don't agree with this but i know it's true and as far as self-defense goes i believe that even in those cases i don't agree with it because you're still killing another human even in my case if it came down to it i would probably defend myself even if it meant killing someone but i still wouldn't be okay with it and people don't need the death penalty, punishment yes, but not the death penalty think about it like this if your brother was being considered for the death penalty would you want him killed even if you thought he deserved it (if you have any humane compassion and a heart) you wouldn't want him killed well that's how i consider everyone in this world they are all my family because i believe we were all created by God and we're all his children so i definitley don't agree with murder at all. and yes the death penalty is murder despite what the judicial court defines the death penalty as because they also define murder as the killing of another human.
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Registered: March 10, 2005
Posts: 745
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see zleepy, I agree with you - thats how I'm torn on this subject. I do think that lethal injection/electric chair is just too easy of a punishment to mass murders. However, prisons are getting so overcrowded these days, and if they stay in jail for the rest of their life, its just wasting taxpayers money having to feed and clothe them.
"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." - James Madison
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Registered: June 06, 2003
Posts: 171
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I think the death penalty is en easy way out for convicts. I mean you commit mass murders that destroy lives forever, and what ir your punishment? A painless fast death. To me this punishment doesn't fit many of the crimes that take place.
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Registered: May 07, 2005
Posts: 1213
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The death penalty (under proper judicial cirumstances) is not murder. Just like how soldiers do not murder in combat (with the execption of war crimes). It's killing, not murder.
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