I just have a question that I have been confused about for many years....Which is worse, secondhand smoking,or you physically smoking yourself? I once asked a police officer and they said physically smoking, but when I asked many other adults they said secondhand smoking. So I am confused.
That's usually what I give out, it give a good summary if you read it through and follow the whole thing. Basically the studies that the EPA and other groups used as "evidence" for the dangers of SHS found that there was no statistical link between smoke exposure (ie. non-smokers) and disease. Data was twisted and outright ignored to reach a pre-determined stance. I'd say this is a blatant case of politicized science.
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Glove, do you have any links to studies that you can show us?
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Originally posted by lovelysoundoftheocean: most of the material i have read on smoking has pointed out that secondhand smoke is more harmful to a person than actually smoking. by the way, kids, my name is mark and im new to this whole shindig.
Well Mark, not to be crude but most of what you've read is most likely wrong.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
most of the material i have read on smoking has pointed out that secondhand smoke is more harmful to a person than actually smoking. by the way, kids, my name is mark and im new to this whole shindig.
Originally posted by EternalAmordeya: im not really talking about public heath concerns...im basically talking about being in a confined area and having to breath it in almost all the time...such as in a trailer or car
That is precisely what most of those studies focused on, as the biggest impacts should be observed in situations like that. People who lived with heavy smokers, in confined places like homes, workplaces, and apartments, they were the targets of these studies.
And it found this: Non-smoking spouses, children, and others who lived with heavy indoor smokers showed no statistically signifigant increase in disease rates.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
And the vast majority of studies have shown no statistically signifigant effects on subjects. Smoking is harmful, but second hand smoke is NOT a public health concern.
im not really talking about public heath concerns...im basically talking about being in a confined area and having to breath it in almost all the time...such as in a trailer or car
Originally posted by EternalAmordeya: I am pretty sure that seconds hand smoke is worse...i have asked heath teahers, health specalists etc, and facts about smoking....ugh hate second hand smoke to... besides you dont have the filter is 2nd hand either
Well I have read the science, Second Hand Smoke is not a legitimate health concern for any reasonable or realistic situation.
The "health experts" and "health teachers" you've talked to are drawing from a flawed study. Everyone's been told that SHS is dangerous and deadly, and everyone sucks it right up because "hey it makes sense". But because it makes sense, doesn't make it right.
And the vast majority of studies have shown no statistically signifigant effects on subjects. Smoking is harmful, but second hand smoke is NOT a public health concern.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
I am pretty sure that seconds hand smoke is worse...i have asked heath teahers, health specalists etc, and facts about smoking....ugh hate second hand smoke to... besides you dont have the filter is 2nd hand either
well, a speaker (some drugs expert or something) came and talked to my health class and said that second hand smoke is worse than actually smoking because there is no filter. but, i've wondered, how can that be true because, when someone inhales the smoke, they inhale through a filter. so when they exhale, they exhale the filtered smoke. so i wonder if it's the same thing. i mean the only thing i can think of that you would add to the smoke when you exhale would be carbon dioxide. and w/e else (wow don't i sound smart. lol ) neway. from what i've been told. second hand is worse.
it really doesnt even matter if second hand smoke is proven to be worse. either way smoking is bad 4 u period. i lived around my sisters all my life and they smoke but i've never gotten any complications or anything. but smoke period whether it comes from a cigarette or a car pipe, its not healthy for anyone. it doesnt matter which one is worse, the point is that both of them are bad.
but, i heard someone say that 2nd hand is worse b/c the chemicals that come from the cigarette mix with bodily chemicals (carbon dioxide, nitrogen, etc) and are then released to surrounding individuals. they say its worse b/c there are added chemicals to chemicals that are already present in the cigarettes...
if your not sure then just dont smoke period or dont hang around ppl who smoke...
While smoking is an obvious cause of disease, the dangers of secondhand smoke are very poorly supported.
To those of you who say that second hand smoke causes "greatly increased risks": Most of the articles you have read are based off of the EPA study on second hand smoke. This study, even though it was terribly flawed and manipulated to try and show an increase in risk, actually showed NO statisticaly signifigant differences between those who were in smoking homes, and those who were not.
And don't use personal experiances to justify entire ideas. They're specific cases, and have specific problems of thier own.
quote: secondhand smoke is just as dangerous as actual smoking. my grandma never smoked, but she lived with my grandpa (who did) for 50 years. they both got emphezema and died within two weeks of each other.
Well, my grandfather who lived with my grandmother for over fifty years is still very much alive and healthy, even though my grandmother died five years ago from emphezeima related complications. He hadn't smoked in 30 years, but lived with a smoker for nearly 60. Including his childhood, he was probably in a smoking house for nearly 83 years.
quote: i hate smoking..... i hate it so much at my mom's cousin's wedding this guy was smoking next to me and i took the cigar and threw it in the marina. i just hate the smell
Yay, lets infringe on others rights due to personal pet peeves. Maybe if I don't like your hair, I'll shave your head.
quote: Second hand smoke is more dangerous and more people die from it than with first hand smoking or whatever. The really sad thing about second hand smoke is the fact that people dont choose it, the people who smoke choose it for them. Little kids and babies die every year from emphezima. I have it myself from my dad but it isnt very bad.
quote: Among other things, secondhand smoke can increase your risk of heart disease by 60 percent.
Sources please. And I think you mean asthmam not emphezima.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?"
"please don't smoke, I'd rather die of a natural cause."- a saying I heard.
I don't know which is worst, but I do believe that neither are good. In a way I think that second hand smoking is the worst because people who smoke themselves have made that choice and are willing to take the risk, but people who inhale second hand smoking are being greatly affected and are suffering the consequences by something they didn't even choose to have in there life. Well, that's my opinion.
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Give me a break. My mom has smoked my whole life and all of my sister's life, and we are perfectly healthy. My sister is probably more healthy than any of you guys here. My mom's the one who's going to get lung cancer, not us. Second hand smoke is not that bad.
I'm sick of going to the doctor and saying that my allergies are bothering me (my allergies from POLLEN and DUST), and them yelling at my mom to stop smoking. If her smoking was causing my stuffy nose, I'd have a stuffy nose all year, not just in the spring and autumn.
If you don't like second hand smoke, sit in the non-smoking part of wherever you go and stop complaining. You are probably getting more toxic things in your food than you do from standing next to someone who's smoking.
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I can't stand second hand smoke. Whenever a smoker is within distance of me, I have to leave the room, or back up because I get a bad stomach ache and feel like I have to puke.
Look at my grandma, she had lung cancer but she still smokes.
My cousin has breathing problems and asthma because of all the people that used to smoke in her house. I couldn't stand going over to her house because you would leave smelling like cigarette smoke.
Second hand smoke is more dangerous and more people die from it than with first hand smoking or whatever. The really sad thing about second hand smoke is the fact that people dont choose it, the people who smoke choose it for them. Little kids and babies die every year from emphezima. I have it myself from my dad but it isnt very bad.
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) neway. from what i've been told. second hand is worse.
