On the news this morning they were discussing how Bush has declined an invite to the NAACP awards for the fourth year in a row. Why? Well, he said that the NAACP does not like him very much. Huh? Our "leader" has turned down a personal invite because "they don't like me". When I heard this I thought that maybe he's just being childish or does he just not care that he just "dissed" (for the lack of a better word at the moment) the black population of America?

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compared to the contrary their are black republicans

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Duh, yes, we all know this. I know a few. But they are by far the exception, not the rule. Must every statement have little disclaimer at the end saying, "Does not apply to everybody described"?

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its that most blacks are democrats because democrats focus on issues that most black people care about.

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Oh, really? Black people, as a group, are extremely religious. You'd think they'd be a shoo-in for the Republican Party right there, and the ultra-conservative wing at that. Nope! You'd also think that black people, who experience a higher rate of violence than most other groups, would tend to favor the Republicans' belief in stricter punishment for violent offenders and drug offenders, particularly those who harm children, Nope! You'd think that black people, whose children often go to underperforming schools, would heavily support Republican school vouchers to get their kids out of dead-end schools. Nope! (Actually, I read somewhere that a majority of black people support vouchers, but they don't back that up with votes.) Black voters, in general, defy logic, which is what confounds and frustrates the GOP to the point where they are not worth pursuing or representing, because there are too few votes to make it worth the effort.

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There are such thing as conservative democrates and librel republicans. So it is possible that your friend could be conservative AND be a democrate. Did u think that maybe her parents are conservative AND democrats...

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Hmm. They voted for Jon Corzine and Frank Lautenberg, possibly the two most liberal current members of the Senate, as well as Jim McGreevy, the most liberal governor the state of New Jersey has ever had. And all three are diametrically opposed to everything my friend and her family supports. So, that blows your theory out of the water.

Yes, there are conservative Democrats. But not in New Jersey, a heavily liberal state. Plus, the Democratic Party is actively weeding out conservative Democrats, like Zell Miller, so voting for conservative Democrats will not be an option in the future if the current Democratic leadership has its way.

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the way my parents think that nothing to do with me.

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Congratulations to you. I don't vote the way my mother does because she's extremely liberal (well, actually, not nearly as much as she'd like ot believe, but she is definitely a Democrat.)

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Bush won't come because he against everything the NAACP stands for. Their against is plan to give everything to the RICH, WHITE, MALE.

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And the NAACP stands for stealing from everybody else and forcing their constituents to depend on entitlement programs - and, therefore, the NAACP itself.

BTW, if you think the GOP stands for the rich, perhaps you ought to look up the political leanings of most of this country's filthy rich where it is known...out of all the billionaires who's political leanings are know, all but two are liberals and/or Democrats or even further left than that. And take a look at the DNC Convention itself; it's a showcase for the filthy-rich Hollywood set. If they cared so much about the Joe Sixpacks of our country, why aren't the Democrats showing them with at least a much attention as they are their Hollywood elitist friends?

another thing i cant beliee about his convention (propaganda campaign) they allowed that slime ball al sharpton speak. ok before everyone starts calling me racist, listen,: sharpton is a guy who made his name on a rape case a guy who basically exploited it.
if the dmes are trying to use him as a reason to vote for kerry, not only does taht speak volumes about the democratic party but it makes all blacks look bad to be represented by this sick slime.

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The black vote is far to entrenched in the Democratic Party, Jazzeykitten. The GOP has been trying for 30 years to woo black voters, and that's just as far back as I know - it's probably been longer. It isn't working, and it won't work. And black voters are screwing themselves because the Democrats have taken them for granted, which is what Al Sharpton's entire symbolic campaign was about. But the bottom line is some things just aren't worth the effort, especially if there are better potential prospects elsewhere.

The main reason why black voters are so entrenched in the Democratic Party is "family politics". It has long been known that most people vote the way their parents do. One of my best friends, who is black, happens to be to so conservative, she makes Rush Limbaugh look like a flaming lib. I mean, on everything. And like most black voters, she's deeply religious, too. So, you'd think she'd be a shoo-in for the GOP. Heck, she's more conservative than most Republicans! So, do you think she votes that way? Nope! We got to talking about this one day and she told me she always votes Democratic. I said, "Why? You're the most conservative person I know. You even make Travis [a mutual friend of ours] look like a liberal." Her reply was, "Well, my mom and dad were always Democrats, and that's how it's always been." So I said to her, "But you've got absolutely nothing in common with the Democrats." And she just repeated the exact same thing. The kicker is, she's very intelligent, and very independent. Still, she's not the first black person who's said that to me about why they vote the way they do, either, but I remember this particular conversation so vividly. That seems to pretty much sum up why most black voters vote the way they do.

So, any effort for the GOP to woo black voters is just too much of an uphill battle. It makes more sense that Republicans pursue other prospects

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That's Trash!! Sure sometimes family does influence the way you vote, so does friends...but you can't say that just BLACK people vote the way the do because their parents did...if thats the case everyrace votes a certain way because their parents do...compared to the contrary their are black republicans, its that most blacks are democrats because democrats focus on issues that most black people care about. There are such thing as conservative democrates and librel republicans. So it is possible that your friend could be conservative AND be a democrate. Did u think that maybe her parents are conservative AND democrats... maybe thats why she so dam conservative...if not, if she votes democrat because her parents do...thats her...more power to her...but me...the way my parents think that nothing to do with me.

Bush won't come because he against everything the NAACP stands for. Their against is plan to give everything to the RICH, WHITE, MALE.

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Originally posted by jazzeykitten:
When I heard this I thought that maybe he's just being childish or does he just not care that he just "dissed" (for the lack of a better word at the moment) the black population of America?

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Did he "diss" the black population of America by hiring Condy Rice, Colin Powell, and Rod Paige. Did he "diss" them when he spoke to another black organization the day after NAACP convention. If "dissing" someone is such a severe sin, then the President definetly should have skipped the convention, because after all the NAACP "dissed" him.

The black vote is far to entrenched in the Democratic Party, Jazzeykitten. The GOP has been trying for 30 years to woo black voters, and that's just as far back as I know - it's probably been longer. It isn't working, and it won't work. And black voters are screwing themselves because the Democrats have taken them for granted, which is what Al Sharpton's entire symbolic campaign was about. But the bottom line is some things just aren't worth the effort, especially if there are better potential prospects elsewhere.

The main reason why black voters are so entrenched in the Democratic Party is "family politics". It has long been known that most people vote the way their parents do. One of my best friends, who is black, happens to be to so conservative, she makes Rush Limbaugh look like a flaming lib. I mean, on everything. And like most black voters, she's deeply religious, too. So, you'd think she'd be a shoo-in for the GOP. Heck, she's more conservative than most Republicans! So, do you think she votes that way? Nope! We got to talking about this one day and she told me she always votes Democratic. I said, "Why? You're the most conservative person I know. You even make Travis [a mutual friend of ours] look like a liberal." Her reply was, "Well, my mom and dad were always Democrats, and that's how it's always been." So I said to her, "But you've got absolutely nothing in common with the Democrats." And she just repeated the exact same thing. The kicker is, she's very intelligent, and very independent. Still, she's not the first black person who's said that to me about why they vote the way they do, either, but I remember this particular conversation so vividly. That seems to pretty much sum up why most black voters vote the way they do.

So, any effort for the GOP to woo black voters is just too much of an uphill battle. It makes more sense that Republicans pursue other prospects.

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NAACP Chairman Julian Bond

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I hate that guy. At the ceremony he said everyone's state name execpt for Alaska. He said Philedelphia instead for some reason. That made me pretty mad.

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Even though Liberalism is what helped end slavery and segregation. Why shouldn't they be Liberal? I'm a member of the NAACP and they are an extremely intelligent group of people who want nothing more than to help blacks be the best they can be. I went to an awards ceremony recently and they gave a girl a 4 year college scholarship and several other kids an all expenses paid trip to Space Camp. I see nothing wrong with that.

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This is the everyday local functions of the NAACP, which are extremely benificial. However, the national leadership is completely wacko. Read this:

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Washington (CNSNews.com) - In remarks to hundreds of cheering liberal activists Wednesday, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond singled out Republicans as enemies of black Americans and compared conservatives to the terrorist Taliban who once ruled Afghanistan.

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And some more comments:

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"Their idea of equal rights is the American flag and the Confederate swastika flying side by side,"

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"By playing the race card in election after election, they've appealed to that dark underside of American culture, to that minority of Americans who reject democracy and equality. They preach racial neutrality and they practice racial division."

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Even though Bond said the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People remains a non-partisan organization,

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BS.
The NAACP is run by a bunch of far, far lefties. Why would Bush waste his time preaching to those who blindly hate him?

so your saying that you like your rapist president clinton?

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Originally posted by bauhaus:
Redrepublican, would you let bush join your klan even though he's used cocaine and was an alcoholic?

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before this i didn't like bush. But now knowing hes an ex-druggy and used to be an alcoholic, I hate him!! I mean anyone who voted for him most have some major issues!!

ive come to undersand bush. he just sees things in the contrary of what they are, so we cant judge him for that

Maybe he should pursue "black" votes for that very reason? If they can't get "black" votes it may be because they won't do anything to help "black" people. It's disgusting that he would at like their vote doesn't matter.

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Originally posted by NuShoesAgain:
Third, Bush at best is going to get a single-digit percentage of the black vote, and ZERO percent of the folks that follow the lead of the NAACP. He got, what, a couple percent of the black vote in 2000? It simply isn't worth the effort for Republicans to reach out to black voters, period. The Democrats have a solid lock on the black vote, and both sides know it. Why bother pursuing the black vote when he isn't going to get their vote anyway?

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Redrepublican, would you let bush join your klan even though he's used cocaine and was an alcoholic?

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They're majorly liberal.

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Even though Liberalism is what helped end slavery and segregation. Why shouldn't they be Liberal? I'm a member of the NAACP and they are an extremely intelligent group of people who want nothing more than to help blacks be the best they can be. I went to an awards ceremony recently and they gave a girl a 4 year college scholarship and several other kids an all expenses paid trip to Space Camp. I see nothing wrong with that.

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Wouldn't that mean that he's at least somewhat liked by the NAACP?

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No, not at all. It's about paying homage to the NAACP. It's kind of like kissing the ring of the mob boss - you might not like him and he might not like you, but you're expected to do it, and he'll be insulted if you don't. Bush is only the second president in history to refuse to address their organization, which is what has them in such an uproar.

Bush's refusal to speak at the NAACP convention was extremely wise. It's obvious what pi--es of the NAACP is the fact that he won't pay homage to their organization, and is only the second president in history to refuse to speak at their convention. First of all, leaving everything else aside, it makes absolutely NO sense that a Republican should be speaking to such a liberal group.

Second, the NAACP has shown nothing but pure, absolute hatred towards President Bush, and Republicans in general. Only a few weeks ago, NAACP's president Julian Bond compared Bush to Saddam. And worse. It doesn't make the slightest bit of sense to pay homage to an organization that hates you and would probably use that opportunity to embarrass and torment you.

Third, Bush at best is going to get a single-digit percentage of the black vote, and ZERO percent of the folks that follow the lead of the NAACP. He got, what, a couple percent of the black vote in 2000? It simply isn't worth the effort for Republicans to reach out to black voters, period. The Democrats have a solid lock on the black vote, and both sides know it. Why bother pursuing the black vote when he isn't going to get their vote anyway?

I wouldn't speak to the NAACP either, personally.

They're majorly liberal. That's like me being invited to speak at the Socialist Worker's convention.

im not shocked at all

Maybe I'm just confused, but didn't he get an invitation? Wouldn't that mean that he's at least somewhat liked by the NAACP?.. I don't know so if someone would reply to this it would be helpful.

Plenty of people "rip" on Bush. He's our "leader", and it's expected that people will either like him or not. What's the deal? I may be uninformed, but that's the first that I've heard about the NAACP not liking him. Is it as a whole or just something that one person said? Seriously. I want to know.