Why is it that liberals are so out of touch with most Americans? George W. Bush won with over 50% of the popular vote in 04. He was the first presidential candidate to receive over 50% of the popular vote in 16 years. He received more votes than any candidate in U.S. history. Why is it that liberals are so out of touch with middle America? Every state that the democrats carried has a port. They didn't carry one land locked state! If thats not out of touch with middle america, I don't know what is. You liberals come on here and demonize the President of the United States. All it does is seperate you further from everyday Americans.

If our president can connect with Americans by having stupidity in common, I'm chugging this apple juice right now.

A little mistake here and there on Bush's behalf could conceivably win the hearts of dim-witted Americans, and that's a perfectly sound approach to win over an approval rating.

But in this case, Bush doesn't just mispeak or mispronounce things. And his approval rating is not flattered by his attempts to dumb down his speeches, if that is intentionally done.

So whatever connection he may have had is pretty much washed away as he has a 43% approval rating (released 2 days ago), his lowest ever.

Sho has a point. Bush is able to connect with the people by his fallibility; people can relate to that, while few could relate to Kerry's aloof, scholarly approach.

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a brilliant politician whose speech impediment betrays his ability to sheperd the american people

Are you kidding me? Bush's "dumbness" is one of his greatest political weapons. The fact that he makes on-camera mistakes helps him seem like an Average Joe American, just as likely to slip up as any of us. That's one of the things that's helped him keep power for so long, despite unpopular political moves.

Yeah, but when his "dumb" remarks make you feel like you are close to his intelligence level, it's pretty sad.

ya, mos def true bout the mideast/west vs east/west coast differences. also, his "dumbness" is a surprisingly good political tool (karl rove doesnt hurt either).
but the ultimate question is, have his policies been good for the nation? i mean, we spend like 2 billion dollars a week on the war, and it turns out that there was basically no basis for it, not to mention the human toll. also, there was just recently a bill passed in the senate that cut funds for medicaid and medicare and increased interest rates on student loans. remember the whole aftermath of hurricane katrina fiasco? people were without food and clean water for weeks.
on the other hand, dems cant just keep criticizing the bush admin, without giving a viable alternative. all im saying tho, is that what bush is doing right now, mos def is not good for the country.

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a brilliant politician whose speech impediment betrays his ability to sheperd the american people

Are you kidding me? Bush's "dumbness" is one of his greatest political weapons. The fact that he makes on-camera mistakes helps him seem like an Average Joe American, just as likely to slip up as any of us. That's one of the things that's helped him keep power for so long, despite unpopular political moves.

um...it's not that liberals are so out of touch. its because the president cheated. so i'm pretty sure they are just pissed about a guy like that running our country. and even if he didn't cheat. It's not that they're out of touch, its'that they didnt' want him as president so theyre entitled to there own opinions about him. And from what's been going on, it seems clear to me that theyre opions are pretty much valid.

True he is not vey beloved by the people at the moment

But let's not kid ourselves, Bush is not a popular president at the moment. There is a reason why a lot of the more conservative bills are failing or being stalled in Congress: Moderate/Liberal Republicans and Conservative Democrats are trying to disassociate themselves from a unpopular president.

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why are there so many t-shirts, movies and bumper stickers against bush. i dont think this has happened with any other president.

Two words: Media and internet. People are able to get whipped up into a frenzy so easily now. Also, you live on the west coast, not exactly Bush territory. Go to Wyoming and see how many pro bush bumper stickers pop up.

i agree with all of u who say that there is way to much generalizing goin on. while there are crazies on both sides (michael moore-left and bill oreilly-right, for example), basically, we hafta get past them.
the only thing that makes me question those who say that bush is a great president is why are there so many ppl that actually hate him? why are there so many t-shirts, movies and bumper stickers against bush. i dont think this has happened with any other president. the big question is why has he polarized the country so much? any rep who wants to answer that one, please do.
i think the main problem w/ election 04 is that the dems were too focused on being against bush, instead of for kerry. although, lets face it, kerry was a horrible choice as the democratic nominee. anyways, its hard to convince ppl to vote for the your side when all you do is talk about how bad the other side is, and never talk about the benefits of joining your side.
anyways, this is all just food for thought, but if ppl have opinions bout it, let me know!

dont you understand what you are saying?

you are steriotyping all liberals as well as including non related groups, if only republicans voted for bush, then the numbers would be much different.

Geoge W. Bush is one of two things

1.) a tool

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2.) a brilliant politician whose speech impediment betrays his ability to sheperd the american people

i hope that you also realize that religion played a major role in the election, if bush wasnt a baptist who prayed in front of tv cameras, he wouldnt be where he is today

oh and one more thing

THE GREEDY RICH DONT WANT CHANGE

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I can't stand to see some of the Liberal morons on TV lying straight through their teeth.

I agree with you up to a point, but only because I hate Al Franken as much as I do Bill O'Reilly and Anne Coulter.

Both political ideologies (liberalism and conservatism) have their crazies. You've got the reactionary left and the radical right. But you should by no means judge everyone by the most vocal and extreme minority. I could very well call all conservatives stupid because Bush can't pronounce "nuclear" correctly, or because Gov. Schwarzenegger can't even say the name of his own state. But that would be extremely unfair, wouldn't it? What about middle-of-the-road conservatives who know what they're talking about? Are they automatically rabid racist sexist Bible-thumpers? Of course not.

Neither, then, are all liberals gun-hating bleeding-heart homosexual-loving communist peace-mongers. That would be a fair estimation of the far left, but just as there are moderate conservatives (who may hold liberal ideas), there are moderate liberals (who may hold conservative ideas).

Just something to remember when you feel the urge to insult moderates on the grounds that they're extremists.

it depends on who you are calling middle America.

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Maybe the conservatives are out of touch with the pace of change. Ever thought of that? If it weren't for liberals, then we would still be a bunch of bumpkins attached to Britain.

I know. I'm a proud liberal, but I do think that most of America is not ready for my radical liberal ideals like gay marriage *gasp*.

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where should a moderate cast his vote?

With a candidate whos views closely relate to yours whether democrat, republican, or independent.

The thing that counts is that you voiced your beliefs through the political duty as americans by Voting.

No american has the right to complain about issues in the government if they never vote in the first place.

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where should a moderate cast his vote?

If things get too bad I'd say we can cast it from the rooftops. Or a well concealed shurb.

BOTH democrats and conservatives seperate themselves out from the ordinary americans because they polarize too much

liberals need to stop being assholes, get their shit together, start appealing to MORE than just union members, personal injury lawyers, and bush hating blowhards.

oh yeah they also need a plan.


conservatives need to stop being crazy and appealing to the maniacs on the far right...yes you are maniacs...all of you



where should a moderate cast his vote?

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Not to say that ALL Liberals are dumb, but most of them are.

Most liberals are extremely intelligent, and don't let a book dicate their decisions. I'm going to say all conservatives are indeed uneducated. They're too uneducated to understand the thoery of Evolution, too uneducated to understand homosexuality in human nature, too uneducated to understand the vital importance of the enviroment, too uneducated to realize there is no God and yadda yadda yadda. I try to educate them, but they refuse to listen to anything I say. I proved how there could be no God to one and she said "I don't want to argue with you anymore". Shocking. Therefore, I believe they're all uneducated. Liberals can be stupid at times, yes, but only in the way they argue their points. Not the points themselves.

I'm a left-leaning independent by the way. Independents are exactly what this nation needs. They tend to be smarter than both sides.

I'm drunk and I came up with a more intellegent, well put-together statement than you.

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liberals are probably a bit out of touch with the rest of America.

Maybe the conservatives are out of touch with the pace of change. Ever thought of that? If it weren't for liberals, then we would still be a bunch of bumpkins attached to Britain.