It's really very simple: Clinton let Al Qaeda grow. This was wrong of him, but to his credit, I don't think he could begin to fathom how wrong it was, because nobody really suspected a tragedy like 9/11 could occur until it did.
When Clinton left office, he passed a warning on to Bush that the Al Qaeda terror threat was growing. Now, if Bush was the hero Red and NuShoes like to portray him as, Bush would have grumbled a few insults at Clinton and immediately gotten to work on the matter. But, as Richard Clarke was non-partisan enough to point out, he did no such thing. He established an anti-terrorism committee for show, which, by September 11, had never met once. He, like Clinton, simply didn't take it too seriously. Once again, I don't think too much blame can be placed on him for this, because even the concept that something like 9/11 could happen shocked everyone.
The thing to focus on is how Bush reacted after 9/11. He started out right on track, and then he veered way off-course.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
quote:Originally posted by NuShoesAgain: I hate to wreck your fantasy world, katalinacmnacha89, but Clinton really _did_ allow our defense and intelligence agencies to go to s---, which is why 9/11 happened, to say nothing of the fact that he let Osama go. Bush and others will be cleaning up his messes for a long time to come.
Hmmm... proof? Or is this above the comprehension all republicans? Ever heard of Dick Clarke, honey? Who talked about how the Bush administration was warned about the attacks before they happened? Maybe youd rather go out on some tangent about Vietnam...
By the way, Im sure you all read the article about the report about how there is no evidence of Iraqi weapons stockpiles? It can be found here. Hmmmm....
Bushism of the day: "It is white," George W. Bush, when asked by a child in Great Britain what the White House is like.
Compassionate conservatism is an oxymoron. Bush is just a moron.
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
I hate to wreck your fantasy world, katalinacmnacha89, but Clinton really did allow our defense and intelligence agencies to go to s---, which is why 9/11 happened, to say nothing of the fact that he let Osama go. Bush and others will be cleaning up his messes for a long time to come.
Liberals prefer equality - all people should be equally poor, unsafe and badly-educated.
"when palistinians psychos fly a few planes into downtown NYC"
Oh wait, that already happened. And Bush was in the White House? Did you not hear? Like the biggest event of the century? The event that has an anniversary TOMORROW? Except for the palestinian part, all that happened. Hmmm...
Bushism of the day: "My plan plays down an unprecedented amount of our national debt." -George W. Bush, in his budget address to Congress, Feb. 27, 2001
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
Kerry's the worst guy the Democrats could have run, save for a few other lunatics like Dianne Feinstein. I'd sooner support Al Sharpton than John Kerry. Joe Lieberman, although I disagree with him on about 80% of things, had a clue and good leadership qualities, and I would have considered voting for him over Bush. But Kerry only knows flip-flopping. And, frankly, with the direction the Democrats have taken the last several years, I'm having trouble supporting any of them (except for Zell Miller), because you don't just elect a president; you elect his entire staff and cabinet.
Liberals prefer equality - all people should be equally poor, unsafe and badly-educated.
quote: I don't even think he looks like he's on drugs. He just looks like he's John Kerry. And just out of curiosity, precisely what does a hippie look like, anyway?
I don't know. I was thinking what a hippie looked like as well when I was typing my response last night, so I can't tell you. I really don't care if he is or not, or what. GVL4LIFE told me to tell him Kerry didn't look like a hippie, so I did.
Someone made a comment about Kerry talking, and yeah, I can see (and believe) that more than the drugs.
I take a journalistic writing class at a college near where I live, and there's this Republican kid in my class, and we got in this huge argument about gay marriage on the first day, and he hates me now. He sits on the other side of the room from me, and the TV was on in the background, tuned to FOX, and he was watching it, and it showed this poll about Kerry and Bush, and Bush was in the lead. So he yells my name across the room and points to the TV, and smiles all smugly, like I'm pro-Kerry. I'm not. I hate Kerry. I hate Edwards. I just hate Dick and Bush more. It's stupid to think that just because I'm liberal, I'm going to support the Democratic presidential candidate. And, anyway, if he takes polls on FOX at face value, he's got more problems than just being Republican.
When the president talks to god are the conversations brief or long? Does he ask to rape our women's rights and send more farm kids off to die? Does God suggest an oil hike when the president talks to god?
quote:Someday, I hope he'll come to understand that the offensiveness of one's comment depends not on how dirty a word they use, but rather is inversely proportionate to how big an assbag they are.
Precisely. You can offend someone much more effectively if you do it subtley instead of swearing at them. It takes skill to pull off a good insult, while no brains at all to swear.
I hope that our little n00b will someday learn, but I doubt it. (Hint-hint, this is your queue n00b to prove me wrong and learn how to spell and insult properly.)
"If voting could really change things, it would be illegal." & "A conservative is a person who lives in a past that never existed. "
quote: He doesn't look like a hippie. He looks like he's on drugs, but that doesn't make him a hippie. He looks NOTHING like a Hippie.
I don't even think he looks like he's on drugs. He just looks like he's John Kerry. And just out of curiosity, precisely what does a hippie look like, anyway?
Originally posted by Xia:
quote: Like everyone on this board is saying, learn how to spell and we might actually listen to your opinion later. No one is offended by a moron. We find it fun to watch you get frustrated.
Amen. It's kind of sad. He calls us all f-ckers, laughs hysterically, and presumes we're deeply offended. Someday, I hope he'll come to understand that the offensiveness of one's comment depends not on how dirty a word they use, but rather is inversely proportionate to how big an assbag they are.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
There's a much better pic of Bush on another board somewhere. He looks like a monkey in it. For that Kerry one, you just got him talking to somebody.
Like everyone on this board is saying, learn how to spell and we might actually listen to your opinion later. No one is offended by a moron. We find it fun to watch you get frustrated.
"If voting could really change things, it would be illegal." & "A conservative is a person who lives in a past that never existed. "
quote:Originally posted by MalibuBarbie6088: I don't know how anybody will be able to feel safe if Kerry becomes our president. He even said that he would retaliate if we were attacked...IT'S TOO LATE BY THEN! We need prevention and action. Kerry is undependable...when we get attacked under him he's gonna P!ss his pants and hide under is desk. Kerry will not provide the leadership we need....Bush has, and still can!
holy sh-t sum1 wit brains thank u homie
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what you said is all true but that doesnt mean you can can hate him. that just means he is incompetent to be pres. i didnt know you could rename topics thats interesting.
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