Bzzt wrong!!! for all liberals who believe it was bush who lied read this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/19/opinion/19SAFI.html?th

there is a liberal behind every flaw in America.

this completly disproves it was bush's lie. as reports are coming out now, it was Iran that was the threat. The liberal's last hope for regaining teh White House was blaming Bush that he invaded the wrong country. well let me tell you somthing have you ever heard or read the Axis of Evil State of teh Union Address by Bush? he labeled North Korea a, Iran and Iraq in the Axis of Evil. he had Iran on the list. it will be taken care of. we took Iraq of te list, we are now dealing with nOrth korea, and we will get to Iran later.



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would someone read the **** article i posted it explains and sdisects, as well as analzyes and points out the flaws with thtat movie.

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oh like bush didn't inherit EVERYTHING he has (including his face. its almost weird how much he looks like old bush. just saying)

Its so sad how one website is supposed to disprove about 2 hours of stuff that makes sense. I have never said "I hate Bush...blah blah" But now that Ive seen Michael Moore's new movie, F. 9/11, I really wish we had a different prez. Ok so he "Labeled" a bunch of countries as dangerous. Why then did we pick Iraq first? No weapons of mass destruction... When North Korea has posed the worst threat in the past years. ???? Why? I guess all of those vacation trips took some hard work. Oh wait, he did work: He labeled some countries as dangerous and sent a bunch of U.S. citezens to their death. M. Moore made some very good points. And you donts so shhhhh! Oh and I belive the website you hyperlinked is an opinion not fact not evidence opinion.

it si hard but the thing about living in America is that wealth does not just come. my fater didnt go to colege. he worked hard got an internship and is now to the best of my knowledge getting a six digit income. i want to go to college but there is no guarantee that i will have a successful life. if yo want to look at someon who iherited wealth, look at kerry, and his multi billion dollar wife.

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dont tell me you've never met a person who just cant get ahead in life. my friend's father works twelve hours a day delivering pizzas just to put food on the table. if thats not hard work, i don't know what is. you keep bashing "liberals" for things like providing health care, but everything you seem to think is "bad" are things that i, as well as many dems AND republicans are proud to support. not all republicans are like you (ie ignorant and heartless). if you would just step outside the safety of you country clubs and mansions and take a trip down the streets of boston, you'd see that hard work doesn't always make you rich! it takes a lot of luck to get wealthy. just because you or i live in affluent communities with good schools and such doesn't mean that we live a common lifestyle.

385,000 families with one full time and one part time worker (like families who can't afford day care) live in poverty

About 40 percent of the households needing food assistance are working families.

About 8.6 million children belong to working poor families.

If you have food in the refrigerator, clothes on your back, a roof overhead
and a place to sleep...you are richer than 75% of this world.

If you have money in the bank, in your wallet, and spare change in a dish someplace...you are among the top 8% of the world's wealthy.

watch fahrenheit. no matter what side you are on politically, it offers interesting perspective.

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yeah, the whole wide world thought bush was right. lol

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I couldn't care less what the whole wide world thought. Which, to most liberals, means France, Germany, Iran, North Korea, and maybe Germany.

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Ok let me get this straight, you trying to prove this based on what you read on a think-tank website - give me a break.

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A think tank website that happens to have members in positions of power in the current administration who are now implementing the policies they proposed all along, long before 9/11.

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They claimed Iraq was a clear and present danger and had a connection with 9/11

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And that would be true. Proof: mass graves, torture chambers, weapons stockpiles, disobeying UN resolutions, and harboring al queda suspects.

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Mass traves and torture chambers are not a clear and present danger to the US. They have yet to find any legitimate number of weapons stockpiles that would constitute a clear and present danger to our country, and Iraq is not the only country to harbor Al Qiada suspects.

The US has supported Saddam in the past and the weapons they do have could very well have been funded by us back when we were Saddam's buddy during the Iran/Iraq war.

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redrepub: but when you are shown somthing that is true and its aginat your belifs such as this piece you call it ignorant and lies.

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When did I ever call anything concerning this debate 'ignorant' and 'lies'?

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"There are plenty of conservative faults that can be proven as well."

yes but this was to show democrats that it wasnt bush's lie. it was josph wilson a lying theiving liberal's lie.

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I haven't called Bush a liar in any of my posts, either. You keep putting words in my mouth. I don't think his administration has been on the level butbut I never said anything about doubting the bush administration's honesty prior to this post. I also have no idea who joseph wilson is.

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he was pointing out that when you are shown somthing that is becoming well known, youchoose to ignore it.

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What have I supposedly chosen to ignore that is allegedly so well known?

yeah, the whole wide world thought bush was right. lol

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:


apparently, the whole world for you is England and the U.S.

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nope the entire world thought thy had WMDs.

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"the ONLY thing i said was that you can't possibly know that "most democrats" are like that. i said nothing else about you."

because i see what the party does every single stinking day.

"and no, i don't acknowledge that it was a "liberals lie". it was someones lie, and we may well never find out whose. it could be bush, or it could someone in the CIA, it could be ANYONE, of ANY political party. unless you know exactly WHO lied, you cannot possibly know what political party he/she is affiliated with."

hah! it was a liberal who spewed that info to undermine the administration.

"clinton was trying to save a few bucks for the average hard working american family. given your past posts, i'm sure you understand what it's like to work your butt off every day to put food on the table, or pay the rent, or buy medication. and what about people who worked their butt off and still had to chose only one or two of the three? it seems to me that the bush administration has been beneficial to the wealthy upper class, but has done very little for the people who need it most."


so instead of funding social programs, he made our country vulnerable to six attacks? i dont think so. he was thee reason 911 occured the bombings on the Khobar towerss, the First bombings of the WTC, teh USS Cole bombings, the Embassy in Kenya's bombing, and the bombing of the embassy in Belgrade during his Kosovo war. of course he might have cut taxes to us. we are the only ones who pay it. we pay taxes bth for us and the lower class. the liberals like the lower clas to think that it is the republican's fault. Edwards was talking to hispanics somwhere in the country the otehr day, and promised them a bigger part of the American Dream if tehy would vote for Kerry. here again proves that the liberals dont think they can do anything with out the White House and aree scared because of it. Those hispanics have just as much of the American dream as anyone else in teh country. the liberals wouldnt like it if they found out. you are telling me there is a penalty for success, they have just as much right to gain success but they have to have the drive and passion to work for it. thats what our countryy was built on. our country was built that you dont just inherit anything to become successful you ave to work for it. you have to be able to take the grunt jobs when no others are offered. you have to be able to persevere before you can suceed. teh liberals are socialistic believing that healthcare should be given out by teh governement free. that isnt the gov'ts job. NuShoesAgain provided excellent reasons why liberals are socialistic.
to another subject. i dont know if this has already been released or not but Clinton in is presdential briefing in 1998, the CIA warned clinton of attacks involving hijacked airplanes there was also said to be an energetic response to that warning. are we talking about action to counter terrorism or are we talking about his "energetic response" to monica?

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this is wrong bush never said iraq had a hand in 911. he said they had ties with al-qaeda and they did. FYI EVERY INTEL AGENCY IN THE WORLD THOUGHT IRAQ HAD WMDS. so bush was quite authorized for planning attacks. im just telling you that our faulty info was passed off by a liberal who i believe did it purposely in hopes of undermining the presidency. in other words we wouldnt have had the faulty info had it not been for joseph wilson. he may not have went to war if wilson told them they werent acquiring yellowcake uranium ore from Niger. also we wouldnt have had such a horrible intel agency if clinton would have cut spending so deeply.

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most liberals are scared and pessimistic and are in denial about it

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the ONLY thing i said was that you can't possibly know that "most democrats" are like that. i said nothing else about you.

and no, i don't acknowledge that it was a "liberals lie". it was someones lie, and we may well never find out whose. it could be bush, or it could someone in the CIA, it could be ANYONE, of ANY political party. unless you know exactly WHO lied, you cannot possibly know what political party he/she is affiliated with.

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if clinton would have cut spending so deeply.

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clinton was trying to save a few bucks for the average hard working american family. given your past posts, i'm sure you understand what it's like to work your butt off every day to put food on the table, or pay the rent, or buy medication. and what about people who worked their butt off and still had to chose only one or two of the three? it seems to me that the bush administration has been beneficial to the wealthy upper class, but has done very little for the people who need it most.

lets just drop this and get back to the argument at hand. do you all acknowledge that is was a liberal's lie not bush's? that was the entire point of me launching this topic. i didnt post it to talk about generalization.


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again you are putting words i mouth show me where i ever said i dont generalize. everyone generalizes there is no way to get a sure fire answer. everyone seems to think that the i think the republican party is some sort of "God party" i never said that. but when comes down to it republicans, in my opinion, are better. get it through your head that everyone generalizes and is completely understandable so long as the majority of the people are what you say they are. you and your little liberal friends on here are nothing but a speck compared to the rest of the liberal democratic left. most liberals are scared and pessimistic and are in denial about it. again i dont care that you arent pessimistic because im not talking about you or the kids on this site. im talking about the majority of the American Left.the republicans are not invincible nor are they omnipotent, or always right. Christ what do i have do to show you that?
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because i know that as a whole liberals are scared pessimistic lying people.

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you really have no idea what your doing, do you? you just did it AGAIN! in the proscess of saying that you don't generalize, you continued to make blatant stereotypes. you dont know ANY of those things! you know NOTHING about the democratic party as a whole. NOTHING. NOTHING. NOTHING! im sorry, i just don't know how else to get it through your head. i never said that you said republicans were perfect (although you tend to imply such things with statements like "there's a liberal behind all of americas flaws". never a republican?) i just said that you continually attempt to pass of bigoted stereotypes as fact, and frankly im sick of it. what do i have to say to get it through your head. honestly, i really don't know what to say to you anymore. your constant blindsightedness is just leaving at a loss for words. really, whats a person to do?

"Two words: Patriot Act."

you damn the act that has kept you safe from terrorism?

"you dont even get it, thats why we hate you. you believe everything (particularly pertaining to democrats) can be thought of as "in general". wake up. thats not the way the real world works!"

because i know that as a whole liberals are scared pessimistic lying people. by saying this, i am not saying the republican party is perfect. why does everyone jam words in my mouth? the republicans have their faults too. i normally cautious when it comes to predictions but i believe that kerry has no chance of winning the White house. my opinion of course. alot of people use general terms because there are always exceptions.

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"and the administration continues to manipulate and play off the media-generated paranoia of terrorism to justify their policies and redefine 'patriotism' in their own terms."

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explain this please.

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Two words: Patriot Act.

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"I guess you have listened in on every single liberal debate every single republican and know the outcome? You must have some killer psychic powers."

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in general i believe liberals are so.

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you dont even get it, thats why we hate you. you believe everything (particularly pertaining to democrats) can be thought of as "in general". wake up. thats not the way the real world works!