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Registered: October 05, 2003
Posts: 607
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Who do you want to be the next Prsident of The United States for 2005? Just cast your vote here and we'll see who is the most "famous" one. Also, which political party do you belong to?
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Registered: September 02, 2004
Posts: 91
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Aguagon: System's not letting me edit for some reason, so I'll add on here. This is completely off-topic, but I just read your profile and saw your favorite book title...I adore Stephen King. But yeah.
*+*Right-Wing Nutjobs and Liberal Weiners, Be Forwarned: The Butterfly Has Spoken*+*
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Registered: September 02, 2004
Posts: 91
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*dramatically* Thank you, thank you very much. I'll be glad to fill that vacancy as long as I can retrieve some kind of prose from my college-drained brain.
*+*Right-Wing Nutjobs and Liberal Weiners, Be Forwarned: The Butterfly Has Spoken*+*
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Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1686
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Welcome back, Frosted. I've missed debating with people who can type full sentences.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Registered: September 02, 2004
Posts: 91
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Bush. Besides numerous viable personal reasons for my political inclinations, I would much rather have a President who is at least somewhat genuine opposed to an elitist liberal who occasionally dons a baseball cap in a pathetic attempt to relate himself to the common man. Example? "Can I get me a huntin' license here?" And if you all don't know what I'm talking about, that's fine, because I cannot WAIT for this election to be over...no matter which candidate prevails, I will be taking a what I believe is a much-deserved political debating hiatus. Well, at least for a couple days.
*+*Right-Wing Nutjobs and Liberal Weiners, Be Forwarned: The Butterfly Has Spoken*+*
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Registered: October 05, 2003
Posts: 26
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BUSH!!!!I do hope bush wins, but good luck to kerry also! (but more luck to bush!)
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Registered: October 16, 2004
Posts: 3
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Kerry.
I don´t think any of them would be a good president, but I think Bush is the worst of the two.
Kerry, all the way.
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Registered: May 19, 2004
Posts: 2013
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quote: She's an idiot because at the time she was pregnant she didn't think should could handle a child
I believe she was talking about another reason for her aunt's idiocy, hence the "also;" but anyways, what you said would qualify someone as an idiot, too. Just look at what you implied: Since I don't feel I can take care of this baby, I am going to screw adoption and kill it. That is why I am not a democrat.
Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9214
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quote: I am democrate
I doubt that by how well you spell democrat. quote: Well now she's trying like crazy to get pregnant and she can't. She's also a total idiot but we won't go into that.
She's an idiot because at the time she was pregnant she didn't think should could handle a child? Now she's ready to have a child, what's wrong with her wanting one now? "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
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Registered: September 15, 2002
Posts: 30
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He hasn't even brought up the Vietnam issue as a major theme in quite a while. And if I remember correctly it was pro-Bush groups that bashed John Kerry because he served in Vietnam and then came back to join VVAW. Even if he fought for 4 months, it doesn't matter. John Kerry changes his views because of new information. A good candidate and person does that. George W. Bush still cannot seem to change his views on issues that quite frankly aren't very strong in his department.
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Registered: October 09, 2004
Posts: 3
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Bush. I am democrate though but I do have some diagreements with bush and some with Kerry, To tell you the truth I dont think either of them would be a good president
Julie
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Registered: June 11, 2004
Posts: 202
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Bush. My parents are republicans and I disagree with them on plenty of things but the election isn't one of them. I don't support bush just because he's republican either. I think that's really lame. That's one of the things i don't agree with my family on. my grandparents pretty much say that democrats are evil and will never vote for one. But the reason i don't like Kerry is because he keeps talking about this grand plan to stop the war but he's never really described it except that he'll make peace. Uh, how? Talking to the Iraqi's oh that's good. While he's at it, why not just ask them to shoot him!
Oh on abortion- I'm for rights and everything but when it comes to ANOTHER life that doesn't have a choice in the matter then nobody has the right to say, "I didn't want you so I'll just kill you." My "Aunt" if you want to call her that had an abortion with her first child. Well now she's trying like crazy to get pregnant and she can't. She's also a total idiot but we won't go into that.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
Posts: 9214
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quote: But, our country needs to defend ourselves. Not going to war would have meant ignoring the 9/11 attack. That would have made us more vulnerable to another.
There were other ways to solve the problem rather than attacking a country that was not even behind the attack. quote: Kerry changes his views almost every time, first agreeing with Bush about going to war, then campaigning against it.
he changes his mind with new information. Like Bush should have. Kerry agreed when he thought there were WMDs but said he was against it when there weren't. i would vote for Kerry because he isn't interested in taking away person freedoms and invading people privacy. "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore
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Registered: October 25, 2004
Posts: 8
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quote: Originally posted by DainishMuffins: kerry is probably the most aweful dishonest man in the world. our president might have made mistakes, but at least he is honest and we can trust him and what he stands and believes in. What has kerry done, has he stood strongly behind one of his points. My vote would go to the one man that the people know is honest and trustworthy...Bush.
I totally totally agree with you. George Bush ha s indeed made some mistakes, but he is honest. He sent our country to war... and I know a lot of people wouldn't agree with that. But, our country needs to defend ourselves. Not going to war would have meant ignoring the 9/11 attack. That would have made us more vulnerable to another. I agree with his choices. And I think the Kerry-Edwards campaign is just plain bull plop. Kerry changes his views almost every time, first agreeing with Bush about going to war, then campaigning against it. And he always talks about his time in Vietnam. I mean, you just don't come from serving in combat in the war (for 4 months only, I might add...) and tell everybody what a hero you are. You NEVER tell people that you are a hero, they need to decide for themselves whether or not you served your time heroicly... Anyways, I would vote for Bush. Always and 100% ~~Tinkerbell
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5812
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Aguagon, you have a point.
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Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1686
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I've pretty much steered clear of debating abortion due to my own mixed feelings on it, but I will point out that eventually overpopulation will reach a point where we'll have to start making abortions mandatory. Granted, what I describe is still a long way off, but when you look at it from that heartless point of view, you can see that a Mother willingly aborting her child today might be better than one being forced to somewhere down the line.
And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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Registered: May 19, 2004
Posts: 2013
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" If that guy EVER became president, I'd move to Canada. " If that guy ever became president, there would be the least amount of innocent people being killed per year in the last 35 years of America. " Bogey, have you seen some of Bush's policies on the environment? If our environment gets worse enough, we won't even be here to debate things such as abortion." Ikki, that is a debatable issue. Although Bush's environment policies are not the best, (A) Abortion is a top priority that has a chance to be ended in the next four years and (B) Would John Kerry do such a better job with the environment as to make his pro-abortion stance secondary? It is impossible to imagine point (B). It is not like the environment is so down in the dumps that if not acted upon IMMEDIATELY, then the whole world will be lifeless. But, abortion IS killing the lives of humans - it is killing 1.4 Million human lives yearly (*beginning to shout, so as to emphasize point*)! AND, the killing has a liable chance to end in these next four years. Of course there will still be some illegal abortions, but not nearly as much as presently. If abortion becomes illegal, there would be a huge portion of morality brought back into the U.S. Abortion is the first and foremost issue to deal with - no other issue comes even remotely close to the importance of abortion. " So your basically saying the only reason you want him to win is because of his stand on abortion? " You pretty much hit it on the dot. If you're somewhat shocked to hear that, then you are very uninformed about abortion. Let me say it again - 1.4 Million Humans Die Each Year By Abortion. You would not vote for someone who was in favor of killing 1.4 million innocent people just because they were in a certain group. This is exactly what abortion is - it kills 1.4 million people who are unborn. This is allowed ONLY because they are Not Born. How prejudiced is that? As you can see, since abortion kills over a million people yearly, there is NO other issue(s) that come close or even combined come close to abortion.
Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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Registered: October 15, 2004
Posts: 3
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So your basically saying the only reason you want him to win is because of his stand on abortion?
butterflies don't live in here...
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 5812
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If that guy EVER became president, I'd move to Canada. Bogey, have you seen some of Bush's policies on the environment? If our environment gets worse enough, we won't even be here to debate things such as abortion. Just a thought...
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Registered: May 19, 2004
Posts: 2013
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Michael A. Peroutka / Chuck Baldwin from the Constitution Party are a great presidential ticket. They are the most pro-life candidates and it would be great to see them in office. But since this election is so close and these guys have no chance at winning, I would most definitely vote for Bush. This is a huge election because it is likely that 1-4 Supreme Court Justices will retire in the next four years, which could be the best chance to overturn Roe v. Wade or ensure it for another 35 years. Here is a quote from Michael Peroutka: quote: I am Michael A. Peroutka and I am running for President on the Constitution Party ticket. I am 100% pro-life, all nine months, no exceptions. In fact, I am so pro-life, that if elected I promise that abortion will end my first day in office.
As President, I would advocate a total ban on all abortions and a total ban on any federal funding of abortions, here or abroad.
As President, I would do everything in my power to end the national disgrace of abortion, starting with a formal acknowledgment of the legal person-hood of every child from the moment of conception. I would appoint U.S. Attorneys – by recess appointment if necessary – who will secure the right to life of the unborn.
It is, by the way, within the power of the President to end legal abortion tomorrow, as I would do my first day in office. Don't let alleged "pro-life" Presidents tell you differently. The President has an obligation under Article IV, §4 to ensure to each member State that it will be republican in form of government. Any action that is not republican in form will be utterly resisted to the grave if necessary under a Peroutka Presidency. Abortion was made "legal" (more correctly, the prosecution of abortion was made illegal) in these United States by judicial fiat, which is anti-republican in form and in violation of the Separation of Powers and Article I, §1 of the Constitution vesting all legislative power of the Federal Government in the Congress. In an American form of government, "all laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void." Marbury v. Madison. Most certainly, anti-Constitutional court decisions are not binding.
Thus, under my presidency, Roe v. Wade will not be enforced, and the member states of the Union could again open their criminal codes and begin the prosecution of the doctors and parents who would contract for the murder of an unborn child without fear of reprisal from the Chief Executive.
Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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