It's a tough call between Clinton and Carter being the worst, although LBJ was up there in many respects too. But Clinton definitely takes the cake as the worst president in history. Carter allowed terrorism and fundamentalism to gain power, but not only did Clinton allow it to flourish, but he did so many other horrible things. Unfortunately, he'll probably be remembered well (aside from the Monica thing) because the economy was doing well while he was in office, credit for which he absolutely does not deserve the slightest bit.
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quote:Originally posted by GVL4LIFE: look at this child tha palistinians train young kids to kill americans and if kerry pulls tha troops out of iraq what will happen? http://www.ictks.com/rush/graphics/terroristchildren.jpg
I guess if we pull our troops out then they won't be over there to get shot. I love our troops, I respect our troops, but I do not think they need to be there. If they wanted our "help" so bad they wouldn't be killing them.
America has been over there for years! Even after the Gulf War we stayed. What was being done to prevent things from getting to the point that it is now?
We need to bring our troops home.
1-We are all born originals - why is it so many of us die copies? 2- Life is tough... it's tougher if you're stupid.
quote: saddam not a threat his sons rape 14 year old girls he gases his own ppl 2 death and treats women lke cattle how tha **** is that not a threat?
Perhaps I should have clarified. By "not a threat" I meant "not a threat to America".
quote: and he had nukes h3ll yea he had em but tha second we come up to tha door he ships out just tha need for inspectors to go there is enough to blow his palaces up
I'll believe it when I see it.
quote: how dare u say we invaded them they now have police officers better houses y do think they tore saddams pictures down and stepped on that statues head when we pulled it down its tha crazy followers and suicide bombers who shot at us to say we invaded is an insult to every1 who died for ur freedom
First of all, nobody died for my freedom (in this war, at least). Many Americans died for the possibility of freeing the Iraqis, and I commend them for doing so. Please don't say I'm against the troops, because I'm not; I just don't much care for their Commander-In-Chief. As for the rest of it, they're pretty much living in anarchy right now. The question at hand is whether or not things will stabilize. And, even if things do stabilize, we had no right going over there in the first place. The entire invasion was based on incorrect intelligence. What it boils down to is that it is not our job to be the bullies of the world. A regime change has to come from a country itself. Also, note the many Iraqi citizens who are burning pictures of Bush along with Saddam. I think the general mood over there is they're trying to figure out which one they hate more.
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And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
saddam not a threat his sons rape 14 year old girls he gases his own ppl 2 death and treats women lke cattle how tha **** is that not a threat?and he had nukes h3ll yea he had em but tha second we come up to tha door he ships out just tha need for inspectors to go there is enough to blow his palaces up and how dare u say we invaded them they now have police officers better houses y do think they tore saddams pictures down and stepped on that statues head when we pulled it down its tha crazy followers and suicide bombers who shot at us to say we invaded is an insult to every1 who died for ur freedom
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"Bush Senior chose not invade Iraq because he realized that Saddam was not a threat and that we would have been stuck in this mess then. The UN had nothing to do with it."
no thats not why he didnt invade iraq. it WAS NOT on his agenda. he didnt realize saddam wasnt a threat. when the invaded they were six months off from making a nuclear bomb! he iddnt invae becuse it wasnt on his agenda. he knew it would be asking too much of the UN to take out a ruthless dictator. his only mission was to throw saddam out of kuwait.
"Oh, and those of you voting, are you ****ing stupid or something? How the hell can you believe that Clinton is a worse President than Carter?"
i must admit they ar etoo close to compare.
"You know what, I don't want to know. Ignorance and retardation being justified as legitimate **** me off. Learn history you jackasses, a bj is not worse than the stuff Carter blew.[/QUOTE]"
quote:Originally posted by Aguagon: I don't even know where to start. Saddam was never a threat to us. We invaded their country, and then acted amazed when they started shooting at us. Yes, the U.N. has sort of fallen down over the years, but we don't need to let it fall apart. We need to a good, American diplomat to go in there and explain our point of view without the use of words like "misunderestimate".
GIVE ME A BREAK. he has always been a threat through the seventies through the eighties and into the nineties. we need to dump the uN. the un is nothing ut a bunch of jimmy carter s who love to coddle dictators.
quote: tha UN dosent know crap if bush senior hadnt played by their rules saddam would've died 13 years ago!!!
Bush Senior chose not invade Iraq because he realized that Saddam was not a threat and that we would have been stuck in this mess then. The UN had nothing to do with it.
Oh, and those of you voting, are you ****ing stupid or something? How the hell can you believe that Clinton is a worse President than Carter? You know what, I don't want to know. Ignorance and retardation being justified as legitimate **** me off. Learn history you jackasses, a bj is not worse than the stuff Carter blew.
A stubborn idiot says: I never change my political beliefs on anything, no matter what new evidence might be presented to me. A wise and reasonable man says: I change my opion on subjects as new evidence is presented. A strong leader says: I never change my political beliefs on anything, no matter
I don't even know where to start. Saddam was never a threat to us. We invaded their country, and then acted amazed when they started shooting at us. Yes, the U.N. has sort of fallen down over the years, but we don't need to let it fall apart. We need to a good, American diplomat to go in there and explain our point of view without the use of words like "misunderestimate".
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quote:Originally posted by Aguagon: This kind of crap drives me up the wall. Kerry has no plans to just desert Iraq; he just wants to approach it from a more cautious manner and try to get the U.N. involved. Even if the U.N. doesn't get involved, he still has no plans of just pulling out. In fact, under Kerry's plan, we won't pull out for many years yet.
And, just so you know, crazed Palestenian gunmen are angered by stereotypes.
those are children who are told to kill americans my god tha UN dosent know crap if bush senior hadnt played by their rules saddam would've died 13 years ago!!!
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This kind of crap drives me up the wall. Kerry has no plans to just desert Iraq; he just wants to approach it from a more cautious manner and try to get the U.N. involved. Even if the U.N. doesn't get involved, he still has no plans of just pulling out. In fact, under Kerry's plan, we won't pull out for many years yet.
And, just so you know, crazed Palestenian gunmen are angered by stereotypes.
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And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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I love our troops, I respect our troops, but I do not think they need to be there. If they wanted our "help" so bad they wouldn't be killing them. 
