liberals say theyre pro choice but theyre not. if you think about it, theyre pro-abortion. they preach about how the women's sovereignty over her own body but they dont care about the life of the unborn child. but what about other walks of life? then its different. when it comes to women's freedom to choose better safer schools for their children, many of whom are trapped in run down dumps, they're anti choice. the left opposes tax credits, vouchers, k-12 educational savings account, and most other forms of parental choice in education. when women are terrorized by criminals the left doesnt support a woman's "freedom to choose" to buy a hand gun and carry it in her purse or under her jacket sould she need it to defend her children or herself. the left doesnt think that women has the capacity to to make right choices about her personal security. the Left doesnt believe in hard working people chosing their own personal retirement account withij the conctext of Social Securit, with the potential of yielding tow or thee times the earining in the social seciurity system, which gives them less than 2 percent return on their money. the result: large numbers of seniors are living on the brink of poverty thats only going to get worse as the baby boomers age. but the left doesnt think that people have the intelligence to make right choices about their own financial security. so you see liberals may giving heart breaking speeches about how they are so pro choice, they really arent. the left thinks it can run your life better than you can. check out web sites of planned parenthood and other radical pro abortion groups and see if "choice" is really what they are promoting.
"Pro abortion," that would mean you enjoy abortions.
Planned Parenthood is against laws that allow women to see an ultrasound before they have an abortion. That doesn't seem pro-choice to me at all. The best choices are the most informed ones. If you prevent women from getting all the information about pregnancy, fetuses, and abortion, your not giving her much room to make the best choice. That's why some( I'm not saying most or a lot, but it's proven that their are some) become very depressed after they find out more info about the baby's development, because they were never told about that before. That is not pro-choice. Sorry, but it's not, and it's not doing women any favors. It's pro-abortion. No matter how good your pro-choice intentions are, don't forget that Planned Parenthood is a business, and businesses are out to get customers. You may be pro-choice but they are not. They are clearly pro-abortion.
"of coarse this is happening inside of your head,Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it isn't real?"- Albus Dumbledore
Wow. I love the divide between republicans and democrats even though we're all living in the same country.
alrighty i'm going to attack the right side now. i just feel like it.
Republicans are stupid. Their only concern is for themselves, they have no concept of what is good for everyone. Republicans are the children that don't share toys with other kids so no one has fun.
Liberals don't want the government running their lives. That's republicans you der DA ders. Who voted yes on the patriot act so now our government can spy on us? Who decided our government should force us to deal with this middle eastern bullshit? Who is constantly throwing up corrupt politicians? Republicans. I am sick of that party of snakes, they don't care about what is best for everyone, only what is best for themselves. How unAmerican can you get?
Though liberals have bad qualities as well, I much prefer them to the republicans and their new found views on moralityf and the war.
we need a party that is based on efficientcy. Whatever will make the standard of living higher and whatever will make us money should be the number 1 priority. Since america has to have national morals and fight terrorism and give tax breaks to wealthy people before making money the people have put themselves in debt. jesus titty-fucking iceskatin tapdancing christ we need our priorities put straight.
Oh yes to get back to this silly post. people aren't "Pro abortion," that would mean you enjoy abortions. i'm pretty sure no one gets pregnant just to have their uterus scooped. these things are usually acidental. abortions are just like an insurance policy that all grown, living women deserve.
I think this was mentioned in another thread somewhere, but pregnancy and childbirth are long, laborious, and painful events and you cannot force a woman to participate in that against her will.
Yes, I am saying that some women are that selfish and greedy, and it is their right to be that way (keep in mind I am NOT referring to women who are victims of rape/incest) and it is their decision to make. If they wish to spare themselves the pain and don't want to go to all that trouble, then fine, as long as they terminate before the child is conscious of its surroundings and exsistence (sentient) I will support the right of every woman to be that selfish. And if you argue that selfishness and greed are immoral, yes you are right, but everyone is selfish to some extent. Selfishness and Greed are the primary cause of every war since the beginning of time, our own government is selfish and greedy, we aren't going to rid the world of these emotions any time soon.
"If it's true that our species is alone in the universe, then I'd have to say the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little." -George Carlin
Seriously I don't get why more liberals aren't pro-life. Liberals tend to be anti-war, anti-sweatshops, pro-animal rights, ect. They seem to be against violence, for human rights. That's how I am. I hate violence and war, I'm for human rights for all humans. That's why I'm against abortion. I'm a woman and a feminist. But woman have plenty of choice: condoms, the pill, Plan B, adoption.None of those end an innocent life, and all of them keep a woman from raising a child against her will. Yeah, theirs exceptions, like rape. But other then that, women do have the many choices besides abortion.
"of coarse this is happening inside of your head,Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it isn't real?"- Albus Dumbledore
After doing some searching, I can't find any evidence of this. Do you have any?
I wish, actually I don't know about an RPG specifically. I'm sure if you can get a Grenade Launcher (M-19 military issue automatic 40mm grenande launche no less) you can get some form of rocket launcher
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i proably make no sense and srry for it
Look in to these lovely concepts we have called "grammer" and "the english language" the might help
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to all you stupid ppl who say that women should keep the baby as punishment to being raped or from incest ur fucking stupid and anal sure alot of women who get in thouse situations keep and raise the baby and become strong indivdual women, but as a punishment they should keep it and for what reason huh? for innocently walking down the street and some guy rapes them they gotta carry it? and how much stds does this person have that will effect the baby and this women.
What in the nine hells are you saying here? No one mentioned incest that I recall... and it's not punishment it's just saving the baby. After the woman goes to term she can give up the child to an orphanage and go along her merry way. She doesn't have to raise the child if she doesn't want to.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
to all you stupid ppl who say that women should keep the baby as punishment to being raped or from incest ur fucking stupid and anal sure alot of women who get in thouse situations keep and raise the baby and become strong indivdual women, but as a punishment they should keep it and for what reason huh? for innocently walking down the street and some guy rapes them they gotta carry it? and how much stds does this person have that will effect the baby and this women.
and since when the fuck should the government decide womens rights to make their own decisons its our body our future not theirs... and so i say fuck the government and their male egos to take over women
and for information i am egual in this abortion issue i just believe women should have our own rights and killing babies is wrong. i proably make no sense and srry for it
Originally posted by ampmaster: you can but that's besides the point
After doing some searching, I can't find any evidence of this. Do you have any?
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so it's not the guns fault, it's the fact that their poor and dumb enough to think shooting each other instead of working will help
No, it's more a comfort zone then anything. If you have what you need, you'll be less tempted to shoot someone over it.
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*steps away from large pile of burning books, the name "Marx" is plainly visible on all of them* I have no idea of which book you speak
Here! I've got one in my backpack!
Cheated the way from fringe to elite. Clique of stylists, rounded illogic skipping a beat to a dead cert. By lheaving charges and bursting the abscess, with a forked toungue, bloated with courage and spewing self-importance. Drop your sights, aim lower, leave umblemished those with real power.
Originally posted by CelticNewAger: [QUOTE]PS. Be glad I'm not Celtic.
I'm baaaaaaaack.......heheheh
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Abortion is murder and should be illegal. Babies are killed by Abortion. If the woman is raped she shouldnt even be walking around in a position that she might be raped. The woman should be forced to carry a baby as a result.
You don't walk in a position to be raped, you ignorant son of a *****. It's something that just HAPPENS. Like that. I couldn't defend myself well when I had 5 guys forcing me to lie down and punching me everytime I scram. I didin't carry a knife back then. I was only 12. So, shut the **** up, because you don't know anything about what you are talking about. And I had an abortion, simple as that. I REFUSE to carry around, even now that I'm older, a rapist's child for nine months. I REFUSE to give it up for adoption. And IT is not MY baby because I never wanted it in the first place.
**** yourself and go to hell.
------------------------------------------------------------I think she is right because its not the babys fault that you got raped if you dont want to keep the baby just have it and give it up for adoption you dont have that right just because you got raped the baby has a saying to he chooses to live put yourself in the babys place what if your mom got raped and she decided to abort you then you wouldnt want her to right well thats what you should of thought about your baby you should of given him or her a chance to live life like you already have!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, I mean it's not like you can't buy an RPG in Colorado,
you can but that's besides the point
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in comparison, has a half-decent economy.
so it's not the guns fault, it's the fact that their poor and dumb enough to think shooting each other instead of working will help
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someone get me the communist manifesto!
*steps away from large pile of burning books, the name "Marx" is plainly visible on all of them* I have no idea of which book you speak
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Oh dear God, they're spreading. Quick, someone get me the communist manifesto!
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Take a look at the state of colorado where not only can you get an AK you can get an automatic grenade launcher (albeit not at afghani prices) look at the political turmoil were i.... wait a minute.... oh that's right, we lack political turmoil at all except when Pete Coors tries to run for govenor so he can lower the drinking age.
Yeah, I mean it's not like you can't buy an RPG in Colorado, haven't had states surrounding you that could emerge to quell violence, and the fact that Colorado, in comparison, has a half-decent economy.
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But it's damn sure gonna try *points at the massive govermental build up backed by dems* My major issue with a left based goverment is that there's to much of it, My main issue with both parties is that they trample on my rights to get where they want to go. They either take my guns or tap my phones and then they(the left any way) give my hard earned wages to scum on the streets who use it to by drugs or booze. Welfare in the vast majority is people living on your wage that are perfectly capable of getting a job. But they have a check every month so why even try? [/end throw the bums off welfare rant]
but this is horrible off topic so I'm going to quit while I'm ahead
Oh no you don't!
Damn, I wanna continue this too... I got an idea.
Cheated the way from fringe to elite. Clique of stylists, rounded illogic skipping a beat to a dead cert. By lheaving charges and bursting the abscess, with a forked toungue, bloated with courage and spewing self-importance. Drop your sights, aim lower, leave umblemished those with real power.
Take a look at places like Afghanistan, Colombia, and the like, where everyone can get an AK. See the political termoil they're in?
Take a look at the state of colorado where not only can you get an AK you can get an automatic grenade launcher (albeit not at afghani prices) look at the political turmoil were i.... wait a minute.... oh that's right, we lack political turmoil at all except when Pete Coors tries to run for govenor so he can lower the drinking age.
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The left doesn't think it can run anyone's life better then you can. It doesn't really think it can run anything that well.
But it's damn sure gonna try *points at the massive govermental build up backed by dems* My major issue with a left based goverment is that there's to much of it, My main issue with both parties is that they trample on my rights to get where they want to go. They either take my guns or tap my phones and then they(the left any way) give my hard earned wages to scum on the streets who use it to by drugs or booze. Welfare in the vast majority is people living on your wage that are perfectly capable of getting a job. But they have a check every month so why even try? [/end throw the bums off welfare rant]
but this is horrible off topic so I'm going to quit while I'm ahead
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
Alright. Fine, let's get down to the really, nitty gritty of this.
Sure, I am pro-abortion. I promote the responsible usage of abortion. Especially in cases in which the life of the child will directly threaten the life of the mother.
I'm also a liberal. I am almost on the verge of Anarchist/Socialism, I am that far a 'liberal'.
Last time I checked, school vouchers, K-12 saving accounts, and tax credits, were all socialist ideas. The focusing of the communities wealth, to give more people more choices.
I mean, that's only the principle idea of socialism.
The left, may not support them to carry a handgun. I do. But like I said, I'm also an Anarchist, and I firmly believe in concealed carry laws, and plan to do so in the future.
However, that doesn't mean that I don't realize Anti-gun promoters don't have a concise point. If you have more people with handguns, while the deterrence factor may be high, what is to say that some kind of OK corral doesn't emerge? Take a look at places like Afghanistan, Colombia, and the like, where everyone can get an AK. See the political termoil they're in?
That's the point they make. I don't agree, but I acknowledge that it's a valid one.
The "Left" doesn't believe that personal retirement is a good idea. Why? Because so many of the rich have exploited the poor, you'll have such a consolidation of wealth that only the highest in the capitalist market will have money to retire too, despite whether they worked for it or not.
The left doesn't think it can run anyone's life better then you can. It doesn't really think it can run anything that well. Instead, it wants the people to run their own lives, and have a safety net for people to fall back, if they make mistakes.
I guess by your logic, the right doesn't believe people make mistakes.
Cheated the way from fringe to elite. Clique of stylists, rounded illogic skipping a beat to a dead cert. By lheaving charges and bursting the abscess, with a forked toungue, bloated with courage and spewing self-importance. Drop your sights, aim lower, leave umblemished those with real power.
Abortion is murder and should be illegal. Babies are killed by Abortion. If the woman is raped she shouldnt even be walking around in a position that she might be raped. The woman should be forced to carry a baby as a result.
You don't walk in a position to be raped, you ignorant son of a *****. It's something that just HAPPENS. Like that. I couldn't defend myself well when I had 5 guys forcing me to lie down and punching me everytime I scram. I didin't carry a knife back then. I was only 12. So, shut the **** up, because you don't know anything about what you are talking about. And I had an abortion, simple as that. I REFUSE to carry around, even now that I'm older, a rapist's child for nine months. I REFUSE to give it up for adoption. And IT is not MY baby because I never wanted it in the first place.
The person who said they refuse to carry a rapist child; well SUCK IT UP!!! That child is yours no matter if you wanted it or not! It will come out from you and will be apart of you ALWAYS. ABORTIONS should be illegal in ALL states and countries! Its NASTY; and its sad killing a child. Im not saying when the baby come out you have to keep it. There are MILLIONS of families that would love a child; why not give the one you wanted to kill to them? Huh? Is that SO MUCH to ask for?! I think not.
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
liberals say theyre pro choice but theyre not. if you think about it, theyre pro-abortion. they preach about how the women's sovereignty over her own body but they dont care about the life of the unborn child. but what about other walks of life? then its different.
Hey all of you anti-choice believers: ignorance is bliss.
"How wonderful it is that nobody need wait a single moment before starting to improve the world." -Anne Frank
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You don't walk in a position to be raped, you ignorant son of a *****. It's something that just HAPPENS. Like that. I couldn't defend myself well when I had 5 guys forcing me to lie down and punching me everytime I scram. I didin't carry a knife back then. I was only 12. So, shut the **** up, because you don't know anything about what you are talking about. And I had an abortion, simple as that. I REFUSE to carry around, even now that I'm older, a rapist's child for nine months. I REFUSE to give it up for adoption. And IT is not MY baby because I never wanted it in the first place.
