With emotions riding high during this election, what now is the fall out?

There have been so many aspects of this presidential election - from ground campaigning to advertising, from grass roots movements to enormous voter turnout, from name calling and finger pointing to final decision making, prayer and praises of worthy adversaries.

Whether your side won or lost, keep fighting the good fight. What are your thoughts about this particular election? Why do you think it ended up this way? Do you think anything could have been done differently or more for your candidate? To what do you attribute Bush's victory? Was he the better candidate or the better campaigner or both?

The YouthNOISE poll revealed that the majority of NOISEmakers experienced this election to be infuriating. Now's you're chance to get specific!

You were there. You've been affected. Review with 20/20 hindsight. Then vent it out through the FACE OFF!

Wow...this is a REALLY old thread to bring back.

I really think that George shouldn't be in office. He's been running our country into the ground ever since he got there. He's trying to "finish" what his father started and that's not right at all. When Clinton was in office, we didn't have problems with anyone. Now that Bush is here, we "suddenly" have problems with EVERYBODY. I mean, Russia is giving away our secrets to Iraq!! If Bush doesn't get out of the office, then our country is going to be destroyed!

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Maybe Americans were high when they voted...

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I'd love to believe that

Maybe Americans were high when they voted...

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when I first found out bush had won ohio(therefore the election)

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Ohio always steps it up in the clutch! I loved it!

when I first found out bush had won ohio(therefore the election) I just went into shock, I could not believe people could actually vote that man. You see a few months before the election I thought Kerry had no chance at all, but after watching the three presidential debates, wich Kerry won clearly(well two of them) I seriously thought he had a good shot. Well getting back to the main point, I do find it infuriating that people elected him, it just seems unbelievable to me with all that's gone on...I'll just keep telling myself they were manipulated and scared I guess, it's too overwelming to think otherwise...

I cried..ALOT... then I stupidly took
a couple days off from school. I should
have been doing something. Not just
sitting around being depressed that we
are stuck with another four years...

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"Bush is not so eloquent that he could pull the wool over eyes more intellegent than the average stump. If the entire world believed that Iraq was a threat, then the entire world would have helped out in the war, and we would not be in such a tenacious position in foriegn affairs."

no they wouldnt have. 'specially teh UN. who was of course giving money to Iraq through the oil for food program. France, Germany, and Russia, the whole lot of them didnt want saddma out because of secret deals with saddam. they were his buddies.

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P.S. Just a word of advice: BAD MOUTHING OTHER COUNTRIES IS A GOOD WAY TO GET US ALL KILLED.


Besides, the French have a very good idea on how to work things. Us American's have some real issues of needing to be head-country and loved by all at the same time. Can't have both people, and the French have been telling us that for years.

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"Bush is not so eloquent that he could pull the wool over eyes more intellegent than the average stump. If the entire world believed that Iraq was a threat, then the entire world would have helped out in the war, and we would not be in such a tenacious position in foriegn affairs."

no they wouldnt have. 'specially teh UN. who was of course giving money to Iraq through the oil for food program. France, Germany, and Russia, the whole lot of them didnt want saddma out because of secret deals with saddam. they were his buddies.

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Excuse me? Not only is the UN a great alie of ours, but they aren't the ONLY ones who didn't help us.

Think of it this way; was it really the smartest plan to go and completley DESTROY and DEMOLISH a country's government and way of life just because we though it was the right thing to do?

NO.

And, 9/11 was Saddam, after all, right? Those buildings were brought down from HIS people, right?

WRONG.

And, even though the guy is in PRISON, and was basically in a hole for months on end, he still managed to hide all his weapons somewhere, right? Even though we searched and searched and found absolutley NOTHING, he must have those dog-on weapons hidden in his beard or pants or in a hole somewhere, right?

WRONG.


So, Bush was just a fabulous, brilliant, BRAVE guy for leading us all into MASSIVE and COLOSAL debt to keep his oil up, right?

WRONG.

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Im a freshman. Im a thorough writer.

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Sidenote, it REALLY helps your arguments to have better grammar. Not necessarily perfect grammar, but things like "I'm" rather than Im and capitalising I's and fewer misspellings like "teh" instead of "the." Right now, your posts are kind of hard to read.

no. stop misinterpreting me. i said that globalization was a sign of the WEnd Times. It is not BECAUSE of globaliztion that the woprld is coming to an End.
i believe that we are close to teh End. but thsi is of course just my theory.

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Originally posted by YNmoderator:
With emotions riding high during this election, what now is the fall out?

There have been so many aspects of this presidential election - from ground campaigning to advertising, from grass roots movements to enormous voter turnout, from name calling and finger pointing to final decision making, prayer and praises of worthy adversaries.

_Whether your side won or lost, keep fighting the good fight._ What are your thoughts about this particular election? Why do you think it ended up this way? Do you think anything could have been done differently or more for your candidate? To what do you attribute Bush's victory? Was he the better candidate or the better campaigner or both?

The YouthNOISE poll revealed that the majority of NOISEmakers experienced this election to be infuriating. Now's you're chance to get specific!

_You were there. You've been affected. Review with 20/20 hindsight. Then vent it out through the FACE OFF!_

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I made it about as clear as I possibly could... FOr example If I were to say that McCain had an illegitimate black child, that would be easy to say, and rove has proved this, but backing it up however cant be done. Because in fact McCain adopted his daughter.

Thats how you debate, back your statements up with facts and elaborate... saying that globalization is a sign of the end of times implies that the world is in fact coming to an end, and if we dont reverse globalization, were all going to die... see how that works, or do I need to have my freshman brother explain it to you?

"This is exactly what I'm talking about WHY do you feel that globalism is the end of time?"


i didnt say it was the End TIme. i said it was a sign of the End Times.

"I dont know what grade your in, but the first time you have an english teacher that will really teach you how to write a paper, your going to hear a lot of "Explain" and see a lot of it in red all over your papers."

Im a freshman. Im a thorough writer.

"Let me take it a step further, you see, what you stated is a talking point, it's a sound byte that is used to instill fear in people, it's supposed to stick in peoples heads, It's an easy statement to make and the people your trying to appeal to when you make it arn't going to question it... ELABORATE!!!!"

what do you mean easy? waht do you mean instill fear? please make some sense out of all of this.

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Originally posted by redrepublican:
"No I believe this would be a correct board, with all your anti-globalism ignorance floating around in your head, I really do think you could use a reminder."

ignorance? not quite. globalism is just another cataclysmic sign of the end times. unfortuantel;y i believ it is inevitable but i hope not to be around when it happens to America.

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Let me take it a step further, you see, what you stated is a talking point, it's a sound byte that is used to instill fear in people, it's supposed to stick in peoples heads, It's an easy statement to make and the people your trying to appeal to when you make it arn't going to question it... ELABORATE!!!!

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Originally posted by redrepublican:
"No I believe this would be a correct board, with all your anti-globalism ignorance floating around in your head, I really do think you could use a reminder."

ignorance? not quite. globalism is just another cataclysmic sign of the end times. unfortuantel;y i believ it is inevitable but i hope not to be around when it happens to America.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about WHY do you feel that globalism is the end of time?

I dont know what grade your in, but the first time you have an english teacher that will really teach you how to write a paper, your going to hear a lot of "Explain" and see a lot of it in red all over your papers.

"No I believe this would be a correct board, with all your anti-globalism ignorance floating around in your head, I really do think you could use a reminder."

ignorance? not quite. globalism is just another cataclysmic sign of the end times. unfortuantel;y i believ it is inevitable but i hope not to be around when it happens to America.

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Originally posted by redrepublican:
You still havn't looked up the difference between nationalistic and patriotic

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i believe this was a case of which bella was talking about. wrong board hydrok. either that or you are just trying to change the subject...[/QUOTE]
No I believe this would be a correct board, with all your anti-globalism ignorance floating around in your head, I really do think you could use a reminder.

You still havn't looked up the difference between nationalistic and patriotic[/QUOTE]

i believe this was a case of which bella was talking about. wrong board hydrok. either that or you are just trying to change the subject...

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Originally posted by redrepublican:
"The only reason the world thought they were in grave danger was because they were told that Iraq was trying to make nuclear weapons... anybody wanna talk about yellowcake in niger? No, because it never existed... "

teh explain Tariq Aziz, one i want dead more than Saddam sying that saddam tried purchasing 800 pounds of yellowcake from Niger. you only need two pounds for a bomb. no he was up to somthing. her was a threat. he's had them in the seventies and the eighties. he was six months off from making one after the First Gulf War and now this comes out.
he would and will always pursue weapons of mass destruction so long as he is in power and has lots of money.

"And if the entire world is fed the same message and your the only one that takes action on it... shouldn't that alone tell you something? six thousand nations cant be wrong.

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six thousand nations?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! please please please we hardly have six thousand.
it tells me that no one cares if a dictator was weapons. it tells me that no other countries word is good. they are dishonest adn dont give a damn for anything i nthis world.[/QUOTE]

You still havn't looked up the difference between nationalistic and patriotic