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Registered: September 14, 2003
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I want to know why 42%, I believe, want Kerry as our President?
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Registered: August 12, 2003
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
You have repeatedly brought up Clinton and you're telling other people to 'Give it up'? Sheesh.
If you want to still obess over the past, It was Nixon who perpetrated Watergate, it was Reagan who was in bed with the Iran Contras, it was a republican administration if I recall correctly that used to support Saddam as well..there is a photo of rumsfeld smiling and shaking saddam's hand, and it was the Bush I administration that didnt fufill its promise to protect the kurds from being gassed by pulling them out early, which is ironic as hell.
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Originally posted by redrepublican:
the only thing i will admit to isd the watergate.
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hmmm...thats interesting because when I was in DC I saw a picture of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam's hand on a public subway.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by redrepublican:
clinton on the other hand had an administration full of crooks not to mention himself, he aremed both north korea and chiina, met with the terrorist taliban, srewed our economy, weakened our country's intelligence agencies to makes us vlnerable to the six terrorist attacks that occured under him, what else? oh yeah he is a rapist, lied to a grand jury. hmm seems like a great guy huh? 
_____________________________________________________________________________ ha! weakened the economy! Now your dreaming! |
Registered: June 04, 2004
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im confused. what did you post? other than a repeat.
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Registered: July 18, 2004
Posts: 75
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
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there you go again spouting off about generalization.
Good grief, you make a totally innacurate statement about me and expect me to not call you on it? You'd do the same thing if someone said something that is not true about you. You seem to live in a strange world where people who don't agree with you are 'liars' but if you are the one who makes the innacurate statement your own standards for others dont apply to you.
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notice how you didnt even answer?
I certainly did, see above. The Iran Contra affair was wrong because it was not done democratically but clandestinely.
Besides, you're not in any place to say I'm obligated to answer to you when you did the same thing by not acknowledging you made a completely bullocks statement about me supposedly thinking michael moore is 'godlike', i don't know how you come off saying that when I never said anything of the sort.
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ya if you wouldnt realize that we helped them fend of an evil cause.
Just because something has a supposedly positive side effect doesn't mean the ends justify the means and its ok to go about it in a shady and illegal way.
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Registered: June 04, 2004
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"Good grief, you make a totally innacurate statement about me and expect me to ignore it?"
what inaccurate statement?
"I certainly did, see above. The Iran Contra affair was wrong because it was not done democratically but clandestinely."
somthing had to be done quickly and how can it be clandestine if everyone knows about it?
"Besides, you're not in any place to say I'm obligated to answer to you when you did the same thing by not acknowledging you made a completely bullocks statement about me supposedly thinking michael moore is 'godlike', i don't know how you come off saying that when I never said anything of the sort. "
again you are stuffing words in my mouth! i said 'notice how you didnt answer?' not 'answer dammit!' no i can assume that you liked his movie. correct if im wrong on that.
"Just because something has a supposedly positive side effect doesn't mean the ends justify the means and its ok to go about it in a shady and illegal way."
a positive side effect? the entire thing was positive! there was nothing bad done or anything like that.
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Registered: July 18, 2004
Posts: 75
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
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there you go again spouting off about generalization.
Good grief, you make a totally innacurate statement about me and expect me to not call you on it? You'd do the same thing if someone said something that is not true about you. \ quote:
notice how you didnt even answer?
I certainly did, see above. The Iran Contra affair was wrong because it was not done democratically but clandestinely. Besides, you're not in any place to say I'm obligated to answer to you when you did the same thing by not acknowledging you made a completely bullocks statement about me supposedly thinking michael moore is 'godlike', i don't know how you come off saying that when I never said anything of the sort. quote:
ya if you wouldnt realize that we helped them fend of an evil cause.
Just because something has a supposedly positive side effect doesn't mean the ends justify the means and its ok to go about it in a shady and illegal way. |
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Registered: July 18, 2004
Posts: 75
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: quote:
there you go again spouting off about generalization.
Good grief, you make a totally innacurate statement about me and expect me to ignore it? \ quote:
notice how you didnt even answer?
I certainly did, see above. The Iran Contra affair was wrong because it was not done democratically but clandestinely. Besides, you're not in any place to say I'm obligated to answer to you when you did the same thing by not acknowledging you made a completely bullocks statement about me supposedly thinking michael moore is 'godlike', i don't know how you come off saying that when I never said anything of the sort. ya if you wouldnt realize that we helped them fend of an evil cause.[/QUOTE] |
Registered: June 04, 2004
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
There you go again...when did I ever say I even liked Michael Moore that much, let alone think he's godlike? If you actually read my posts instead of reverting back to your erroneous stereotypes you'd notice I have repeatedly criticized moore.
And republicans are not above criticism and scandal, either. Whether you think it was right to support the contras or not, it was not done openly but under the table which is criminal.
there you go again spouting off about generalization. notice how you didnt even answer? ya if you wouldnt realize that we helped them fend of an evil cause. |
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Registered: July 18, 2004
Posts: 75
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Originally posted by redrepublican:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
yep rumsfeld did shake his hand but you like your God moore mislead people.
There you go again...when did I ever say I even liked Michael Moore that much, let alone think he's godlike? If you actually read my posts instead of reverting back to your erroneous stereotypes you'd notice I have repeatedly criticized moore. And republicans are not above criticism and scandal, either. Whether you think it was right to support the contras or not, it was not done openly but under the table which is criminal. |
Registered: June 04, 2004
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Originally posted by GirlExMachina:
You have repeatedly brought up Clinton and you're telling other people to 'Give it up'? Sheesh.
If you want to still obess over the past, It was Nixon who perpetrated Watergate, it was Reagan who was in bed with the Iran Contras, it was a republican administration if I recall correctly that used to support Saddam as well..there is a photo of rumsfeld smiling and shaking saddam's hand, and it was the Bush I administration that didnt fufill its promise to protect the kurds from being gassed by pulling them out early, which is ironic as hell.
the only thing i will admit to isd the watergate. that was wrong. otherwise. you cannot use the argument of teh CONTRAS against him because we were right about that we helped them and they fought off communism reagen said that if we helped them, they would be aple to fend it off and they did. yep rumsfeld did shake his hand but you like your God moore mislead people. that was over twenty years ago! he was our friend then. that was after the Iran Hostage Crisis and we hated Iran so we did give him weapons but that makes sense too. clinton on the other hand had an administration full of crooks not to mention himself, he aremed both north korea and chiina, met with the terrorist taliban, srewed our economy, weakened our country's intelligence agencies to makes us vlnerable to the six terrorist attacks that occured under him, what else? oh yeah he is a rapist, lied to a grand jury. hmm seems like a great guy huh? |
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Registered: July 18, 2004
Posts: 75
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Originally posted by redrepublican:
ill see it tonight. that article proved your point wrong. those factS are known to be true. GIVE IT UP. it was clinton who met with taliban not bush. it was carter who went on vacation all the time not bush.
You have repeatedly brought up Clinton and you're telling other people to 'Give it up'? Sheesh. If you want to still obess over the past, It was Nixon who perpetrated Watergate, it was Reagan who was in bed with the Iran Contras, it was a republican administration if I recall correctly that used to support Saddam as well..there is a photo of rumsfeld smiling and shaking saddam's hand, and it was the Bush I administration that didnt fufill its promise to protect the kurds from being gassed by pulling them out early, which is ironic as hell. |
Registered: January 15, 2003
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The reason why I don't want Bush in office again is because:
1. He supports inequality.
2. He started a war that had no basis, and thousands of people died as a result.
3. He has tried to enforce one religion's belief system over the entire nation, which is unconstitutional.
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Registered: June 04, 2004
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ill see it tonight. that article proved your point wrong. those factS are known to be true. GIVE IT UP. it was clinton who met with taliban not bush. it was carter who went on vacation all the time not bush. it has been proven and you are too stubborn to see the truth.
notice that poll came from A MAJOR LIBERAL SLANTED NEWSPAPER?
i said,
"it is not false and has been proved. the facts are facts and very solid ones. i have proved your opinmion wrong and yes that is posible. ill give you an example if you so choose."
you didnt answer. why not?
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Registered: December 20, 2002
Posts: 236
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cuz he's not Bush. Only if it came down to a choice between Bush and Hitler as presedent, would I vote for Bush.
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Registered: August 12, 2003
Posts: 44
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Originally posted by redrepublican:
in fact i havent seen the movie but from his past "docs" and the reviews i have read, and witht the knowledge that moore has the tendency to disort facts i can make a sound conclusion. also can you explain this for me? you know that kerry and bush were tied before the movie and three weeeks after bush was up five percent? explain that.
No offense but I normally don't take much into consideration of someone who is completely bashing a movie, but has never actually seen it. there are plently of horrible reviews about all kinds of movies, as I'm sure you know. I suggest that you see this movie so at least when your telling people its "trash" you're not just quoting others. And yes I have seen what you said about that poll, that one poll. (notice I say ONE) |
Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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Originally posted by rissa421:
And to answer your question about the board it's because people don't want to read all that information which is very likely to be false.
it is not false and has been proved. the facts are facts and very solid ones. i have proved your opinmion wrong and yes that is posible. ill give you an example if you so choose. |
Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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Originally posted by rissa421:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by redrepublican:
look at this board i launched it had no replies cuz everyone knew it was right. it will clear up the notion in your head that the movie is anything but trash.
If this movie is trash then why is it so powerfully acclaimed as a great movie by so many people? If this movie is trash then why have so many Americans flocked to movie theaters to see it? Now could you answer one simple question for me, without trying to mingle your way out of it with 10 pages long of facts and figures that you know hardly anyone will read, could you tell me if you yourself have seen this movie?
in fact i havent seen the movie but from his past "docs" and the reviews i have read, and witht the knowledge that moore has the tendency to disort facts i can make a sound conclusion. also can you explain this for me? you know that kerry and bush were tied before the movie and three weeeks after bush was up five percent? explain that. |
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Registered: August 12, 2003
Posts: 44
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Originally posted by redrepublican:
look at this board i launched it had no replies cuz everyone knew it was right. it will clear up the notion in your head that the movie is anything but trash.
If this movie is trash then why is it so powerfully acclaimed as a great movie by so many people? If this movie is trash then why have so many Americans flocked to movie theaters to see it? Now could you answer one simple question for me, without trying to mingle your way out of it with 10 pages long of facts and figures that you know hardly anyone will read, could you tell me if you yourself have seen this movie?
And to answer your question about the board it's because people don't want to read all that information which is very likely to be false. |
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Registered: August 12, 2003
Posts: 44
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by redrepublican:
look at this board i launched it had no replies cuz everyone knew it was right. it will clear up the notion in your head that the movie is anything but trash.
If this movie is trash then why is it so powerfully acclaimed as a great movie by so many people? If this movie is trash then why have so many Americans flocked to movie theaters to see it? Now could you answer one simple question for me, without trying to mingle your way out of it with 10 pages long of facts and figures that you know hardly anyone will read, could you tell me if you yourself have seen this movie?
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Registered: June 04, 2004
Posts: 3535
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look at this board i launched it had no replies cuz everyone knew it was right. it will clear up the notion in your head that the movie is anything but trash. http://boards.youthnoise.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=742299645&f=4774073821&m=564106761 Bush/Cheney '04 Interim President Vice President redrepublican Esq., CFO Co Founding Father this post has proudly been deemed racism free by teh Honorable Coalition of Bushsupporter, Marine 16, notsojoey, FreeMarketLover, Redrepublican, Jookly, RepublicanChick, and TruthfullySpeaking adn thier endless pursuit to cast out the bigotry that has infiltrated youthNOISE. |
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