PEACE NOT WAR! Ok... where to begin??>>

Bush needs to be stopped. This whole war thing has gone on far too long! We need to start spending money on our own country and start making jobs not war.

We need to forgive and forget. Isn't that what Jesus says for us to do anyway? To LOVE your neighbors as yourselves?? Yes, war is sometimes needed, but I think we have done more damage than the "terrorists" did to us in the first place! Man, we are the country with the highest crime rates!

It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a whole bunch of high-ranking officials to figure out that we NEED to start taking care of our OWN homes and cities and start making PEACE!!

Your right about Jesus. He was the biggest pacifist out there. That's why it blows my mind that religious people support Bush.
What happened to non-violent resistance? To Gandhi and MLK? We need to get back to that.
To quote John Lennon, "Give Peace a Chance."

I totally agree with you. My opinion is that the government is wrong; war is not going to create peace. Like Voltaire said "It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."

Peace not war im all for it but George bush is arragent and he wont stop untill hes out the white house. But i think obama will be diffrent i think he stop all forms of war and bring peace

Nephilem, recently the U.S. has been bombing Afghanistan, killing dozens and dozens of innocent civilians. So what's the difference between us and terrorists? Both kill innocent people, both terrorize civilians. Our cause might be 'better' but is it worth murder? And the terrorists are acting against us, because we're their. We're the cause that's uniting them. They don't just blow people up for fun.
Even if they did, why are we there? Iraq didn't cause 9/11, they didn't have the weapons. Sudan's killing millions of its people, but we're not at war with them.

I'm a pacifist. I don't get why so many religious people in this country can be for war. Jesus never specifically condemned gays or abortion, but he was very clear on peace. "blessed are the peacemakers"..."turn the other cheek" Yeah, he was definitely a pacifist.
We need to get back to nonviolent resistance. More of MLK, Gandhi, and John Lennon.

Yeah why we still in Iraq again? Im placing a bet that it falls through. Whats your guys bets?

This war is helping America by increasing relations with the Iraqi people. 89% of Iraqis' want us to be there and want the freedom. It is obviously the other 11% that do not want us there and therefore they should not ruin for the rest of iraq!!!!!!

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We clearly didn't learn from Vietnam,

Let me reword that I hope we learn. We used to fight wars with everything that we had now we fight limited wars. We are good at taking out a military, but we still need work on fighting insurgencies.

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Then we learn from Iraq

We clearly didn't learn from Vietnam, so what makes you think we're going to learn anything from Iraq?

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Has anyone else seen Rep. Dennis Kucinich's plan for the Iraq War? I really like it:

http://kucinich.us/iraqplan

That plan might sound good but it will not work. No peacekeeping force is going to go into Iraq. The answer is to move in strength and destroy the opposition, and then leave.

Then we learn from Iraq and when we deal with a threat like Iran we fly over with our airpower and destroy them from the air. Take out their offensive capabilities and then they can sit in their country and hate us as much as they want.

Has anyone else seen Rep. Dennis Kucinich's plan for the Iraq War? I really like it:

http://kucinich.us/iraqplan

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The harder we hit them, the more they'll hate us. That's the nature of the enemy. They feel that they're right, and so any action by us against them will just result in them feeling more justified attacking us back.

Proud to be multicellular.

So force won’t make them like us and diplomacy won’t make them like us. I guess we are going to have to live with the fact that they probably will never like us, however while they are a threat, we can and must do something. We still need to deal with new threats as they arise or we will have to deal with the consequences.

The harder we hit them, the more they'll hate us. That's the nature of the enemy. They feel that they're right, and so any action by us against them will just result in them feeling more justified attacking us back.

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If that's what it took to keep the sectarian violence to a minimum, what makes you think diplomacy will work?

I don’t think that diplomacy will work. That is why I said that I think we will have to hit them hard to drive them to an agreement. I don’t think that the agreement will be long lasting, but we need to have some time of calm so that we can quickly pull our troops out of there.

Also it is precisely because diplomacy won’t work that we can’t move on to peace and avoid war. We can’t solve this threat with flowers and peace marches, because we are facing a fanatical enemy that is in a killing mode.

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I agree that the Iraq war has not gone well. I think that the only way out now is the same way we got out of Vietnam. Hit the enemy harder then ever before in a short amount of time to drive them to the peace table.

The difference here is that in Vietnam, we had an enemy who was willing to negotiate. Their goal was a Communist Vietnam, which was a goal that could be reached through diplomacy (although there was no way the US was going to allow such a thing). In Iraq, there is no unified enemy. We've got the Sunnis, the Shiites, and the Kurds, all who have differing opinions on how the country should be run. We're never going to force them to agree. Hell, the only reason they weren't killing themselves before 2003 was Saddam, a ruthless dictator who ruled with an iron fist. If that's what it took to keep the sectarian violence to a minimum, what makes you think diplomacy will work?

If we're going to pull out of Iraq, we should quit while we're ahead. Staying in longer will only result in more American deaths. This is, after all, a war of attrition. There are more than enough insurgents to outlast us, and I highly doubt staying will accomplish anything considering the nature of our enemies.

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The insurgents are killing fellow Iraqis because we're there. The longer we stay, the more people they kill.

Actually that is not true.
Back when the war began we thought we would be able to secure the country quickly. If that had happened the president would be far more popular, and America would be much more able to launch military operations in other parts of the world.
New threats like Iran know this. They want to keep Iraq in a state of violence to keep us stuck in an unpopular war, which will hurt our ability to deal with knew threats like Iran.
I agree that the Iraq war has not gone well. I think that the only way out now is the same way we got out of Vietnam. Hit the enemy harder then ever before in a short amount of time to drive them to the peace table. Then withdraw, and don’t go back in even if the place goes to hell.
That’s what happened with Vietnam and that’s probably what’s going to have to happen in Iraq.

The only person killing Iraqis before we invaded was Saddam, and that was in numbers far, far less than the current amount.

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Why did we originally go to Iraq?Are you honestly going to say it was to defend Iraqis?

ok and the terrorists wernt killing any civilians before we were there? we didnt just get a wild hair up our asses and pick some random country to go and try and defend.