If they don't like the way there country is going why dont they just stand up and do something about it instead of coming to the U.S. and destroying ours.
Yeah there willing to risk there live's fleeing but not to stand up and fix whats wronge with there own fucking country. Im tiered of this shit... there illegel yet getting government aid its madness Americans are being treated like second rate citizens while they pay no taxes but reek all the benifeits.... B.S. And all you bleeding hearts can go to hell!

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Originally posted by aaathreat:
and you need to stop thinking about the economy. because if we welcomed people and helped them instead of throwing them into a grave when they got here...they'd be a lot better off and they're willing to do almost anything just to earn enough money to get out of their country because it's that horrible.

actually everyone would be worse off because our country wasnt setup to help people for free. Maybe in your dream world where there are unlimited resources and people jumping for joy and willing to work for free to help everyone out.

The government does take illegal immigration into consideration. That is why we let so few immigrants in legally.

*applauds!*

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My suggestion. Lets throw you into their situation, lest have you live their lives and see if you're not so goddamn errogant after that. People like you disgust me, you need to stop thinking about yourself for one F*cking moment.

First of all i looking at the big picture and what will happens if this conitues. You need to be realistic and stop thinking about the individual and start thinking the country. And you should be more mature about this subject. It shows how immature you are and this is my thoughts and you have no right to call them irrorgant.

Most of them didn't jump the fence so to speak, as our present day mexicans are doing.

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And honestly, that was then. We have internal problems we should work out before we allow anyone into this country. We need to help poverty, and unemployment, and schooling. The government can hardly deal with all the people we have now! Are we asking too much to be considered first, most of us native residents, before illegal immigrants?

No. I agree with you. However, can you explain what you meant by this:

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They did so through honest means in most cases

They did so through honest means in most cases. And honestly, that was then. We have internal problems we should work out before we allow anyone into this country. We need to help poverty, and unemployment, and schooling. The government can hardly deal with all the people we have now! Are we asking too much to be considered first, most of us native residents, before illegal immigrants?

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They have a home. They have a country. And it's not this one.

But aren't most of the people that are here from other countries who's ancestors came here for looking for something better just as well just as this people are?

Their lives? How are their lives different than ours, Syd? Sure they have different "harder" problems, but honestly, some people can deal with them and some can't. We have problems of our own that each of us find as difficult if not harder to deal with than theirs. They have a home. They have a country. And it's not this one.

On the matter of how can a person be illegal? Obviously it's not the person who is illegal; it is their being here.

and you need to stop thinking about the economy. because if we welcomed people and helped them instead of throwing them into a grave when they got here...they'd be a lot better off and they're willing to do almost anything just to earn enough money to get out of their country because it's that horrible.

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Originally posted by onichan:
Sorry, but i have to disagree with you all. There is a reason why they are called ILLEGAL. They have came inside a country without the country knowing. And that can damage the economy greatly. Nad most immgrants try to find jobs but cant because they dont speak English. And that will lower the enployment rate again lowering the economy. So what is the point to come over the border to find a job but fail doing so? What happens then? Will he or she go back to there country? NO!! they are going to stay here and rot on the streets.

My suggestion. Lets throw you into their situation, lest have you live their lives and see if you're not so goddamn errogant after that. People like you disgust me, you need to stop thinking about yourself for one F*cking moment.

Sorry, but i have to disagree with you all. There is a reason why they are called ILLEGAL. They have came inside a country without the country knowing. And that can damage the economy greatly. Nad most immgrants try to find jobs but cant because they dont speak English. And that will lower the enployment rate again lowering the economy. So what is the point to come over the border to find a job but fail doing so? What happens then? Will he or she go back to there country? NO!! they are going to stay here and rot on the streets.

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I, for one, would be glad to give it back... seeing how they never left in the first place.

That's right Hyde, you are surrounded. :P

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Originally posted by finn620:
In France they call them "sans papiers" - without papers. I like that term better.

I don't see why we have a right to complain about Mexicans. We stole half their goddamn country.

I, for one, would be glad to give it back... seeing how they never left in the first place.

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Illegal people. How can a person be illegal? You can do something that's illegal but how can you (a person) be illegal?

I never thought about that in that way. That's an interesting perspective.

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In France they call them "sans papiers" - without papers. I like that term better.

Oh, I didn't know that.

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Does no one care about WHY people actually risk their fucking lives to leave their country and go somewhere else?

I know what you mean. It's ironic to think that that's how this country was founded. People who came from other countries looking for something better and for freedom.

Oh I didn't know that about France, in Spain it's the same thing "sin papeles."

People seem to forget that though(about Mexico).

In France they call them "sans papiers" - without papers. I like that term better.

I don't see why we have a right to complain about Mexicans. We stole half their goddamn country.

I don't feel like starting a new thread.

Illegal people. How can a person be illegal? You can do something that's illegal but how can you (a person) be illegal? Does no one care about WHY people actually risk their fucking lives to leave their country and go somewhere else? Oh yeah since they're not from your same country you don't care, it's not your problem right?! The ideas of national identity and patriotism are one's I've never been able to understand, I guess that's why I think like this. I think it's great that people care about their countries, but that doesn't mean you stop caring about everyone else on the fucking planet because they didn't happen to be born in the same fucking place you were.

this is not directed at anyone from here in particular

there should be some sort of follow-up question like, "and what do you personally think?blablabla" or something...