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Picture of writerinprogress
Registered: July 23, 2004
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Females only just got our freedoms and rights. I know it's been a couple of decades since but it was still only a few years ago. How do you feel about this? Do you think we should have more freedoms without being criticized by the male race? Do you think we should have less? Do you think this helped our country or harmed it? I want all points of view from males and females.

We've got enough freedoms, sure we shouldn't be criticized my males for "manly" things we may or may not do, but I don't think we could ever change that.
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Registered: August 04, 2004
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That is so extreeme to say that calling us women is somehow subordinating us to men.

First off it wasn't just a few years ago. The feminist movement has been winning victories since the 19th century. This includes right to custody over children in cases of divorce and the right to vote.

I think things went extreeme in the 60's. Feminism splits off into pretty much three groups, but the biggest groups and largest groups are the radical feminists.

I think the problem with radical feminism is that while we gained our identity of human beings we lost our identity as women. We somehow took on the notion that our roles were weaker than men's, which is totally inherient from male chevenist thought.

I think abortion is an outrage, I think that we need to stop treating our fertility as a disease and recognize that we are different YET equal and we do not need to rid ourselves of our differences and make ourselves practically men in order to be equal.

I know my opinion totally even opposes what would be considered moderate feminism, but I'm more of a faithful Catholic feminist who believes we've long gained our dignity as human beings rather than some sub-creature to men, but now need to reclaim and defend femininity.

I'm very glad I'm not a man. You know what my goals are? I want to get married, have what society would consider lots of kids, homeschool them and be a homemaker. And I am a university student who is going into a career because I have to, because single income families are barely feesible, and before we start fighting for equal pay to men where the law's going to regulate everything, we need to think. The more money the family makes, the more money the family has to spend. The more money families have, the more willing they are to spend more on less and because of that companies raise prices. Inflation will catch up with us, and what that its going to be even harder for women who want to homemake to actually do it.

Double income families was a thing started in the 70's. People liked it because there was so much extra money so everyone started doing it. But now, about 80 percent of women, last I heard, are forced to work when they want to be home with their kids. They can't afford not to work.

I'm not saying its quite fair, but I think that when it comes to salary, another thing that needs to be considered is how much that person needs, how many dependants they have under them.

Besides, you want to know the reason why our incomes are on average lower? Not so much prejudice but the fact that the average married woman is less likely to be willing to move...she typically looks for work near where her husband has found work, and often we accept lower pay in order to gain extra non-money benefits.

Let's not ruin it for the rest of us. If you want to work, fine. But stop treating homemaking as if it were some lower class, simple minded task that leaves you with endless hours of idle time.
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Registered: July 28, 2004
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Well if you want for freedoms and rights you could stop using gendered terms female and women. Each of those terms demonstrates subordination to men. Try something like we womyn
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Originally posted by writerinprogress:
Females only just got our freedoms and rights. I know it's been a couple of decades since but it was still only a few years ago. How do you feel about this? Do you think we should have more freedoms without being criticized by the male race? Do you think we should have less? Do you think this helped our country or harmed it? I want all points of view from males and females.

We've got enough freedoms, sure we shouldn't be criticized my males for "manly" things we may or may not do, but I don't think we could ever change that.
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Registered: July 26, 2003
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I know it's been a couple of decades since but it was still only a few years ago.
You're contradicting yourself darlin'.

It's wonderful that we, as woman, have the freedoms we have today. It would be even more fantastic if we didn't have to do some things with the criticism and unacceptance (is that a word? Sorry if it's not.) of men.
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