I started attending a non-denominational church near where I live (Church of God Evangelistic Association) that meets on Saturdays...
Haven't been asked point blank yet if I'm Jewish, but church on Saturday?
History Flashback: Root cause of Revolution was?
A) Religious persecution
B) Religious persecution
C) Religious persecution
Hmm...A, B, and C no?
Well, in the book, National Sunday Law Crisis, it documents the history of why A) many attend church on Sunday, and B) the history of the American-implemented church doctrines of the select "denomination."
1896: Supreme Court upheld a Georgia "blue law" as constitutional;
blue law: Statutes passed by state legislatures declaring Sunday a "rest" day, or day of rest; these laws called for many stores to close; states often fined or imprisoned violators for working on Sunday.
The Sunday Law, the Supreme Court ruled (Hennington vs. Georgia, 163 U.S. 299-1896), was nothing more than "an ordinary police regulation established by the State under its general power to protect the health and morals and promote the welfare of its people."
Hmm.
There are scores of Court cases cited in the book, but that one in particular stood out; anyway:
Sabbath - Saturday or Sunday?
--1592, Roman Catholic Pope Gregory issued a decree establishing an international or "universal" standard calendar, consisting of 365 days; this calendar is also called the Gregorian calendar.
--National Sunday Law was issued by Constantine, one of six decrees relating to the "rest day."
--Highlights of that Roman Catholic (catholic=universal) calendar include: -------Easter: pagan fertility rites festival -------St. Valentine's Day: overtly sexual festival -------Christmas (as in Christ-mass): sun god worship
Interesting, while on the Christ-mass deal; Sunday literally means, "Sun-day." Worship of the Sun, which is overtly pagan.
In the Bible, Genesis to be exact, God rested on the seventh day; according to the Hebrew calendar, the coinciding seventh day would fall on a ta-da, Saturday.
"Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy." -- Exodus 20:8
The Supreme Court has ruled Sunday laws to be constitutional "police powers."
This, from my pastor:
"When religious people without the Spirit of God take over, [many] will be mistreated or killed." -- David J. Smith
He cited the Middle Ages as an example; but on the "religious" person aspect, ANYONE, Smith said, can be "religious."
Hindus are religious. Pagans are religious. Muslims are religious.
But when you get someone in there that doesn't have the Spirit of the Lord directing him, chaos runs amok.
"Many can be 'religious' but few are converted." --- Smith
So, when someone asks you if you are Jewish for going to church on Saturday, ask:
"Are you Catholic?"
If the answer is no, then ask: "Then why do you observe Catholic holidays!"
Persecution is expected for those Believers out there who attend on Saturday and keep God's commandments.
In other words people, there are "religious" people directing the flow of this country, but because they are not, and have not, been led by the Holy Spirit, mistreatment can (has before) occur.
Something to ponder, discuss, and research...
We fought a Revolution to get out from the religious persecution; do we need another?
blue, can you see what she said? I cannot... I would like to hear what she has to say... so I can rip her feeble little mind to shreds and make her cyber-cry.
I can't but I did look at his/her less offensive posts. Talk about a nut. My guess is that he/she is not really serious.
They go against the ten commandments, with the whole Mary thing and all.
Are you kidding? Your logic is flawed and is in no way based in reality.
Anyways...yea what's the point of this again? Joey said at the end
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In other words people, there are "religious" people directing the flow of this country, but because they are not, and have not, been led by the Holy Spirit, mistreatment can (has before) occur.
Who determines what the Holy Spirit is telling them? And besides, people who hear voices in their heads scare me.
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Who is godismyshepard? An extreme form of thewalrus, jamaica I guessing.
blue, can you see what she said? I cannot... I would like to hear what she has to say... so I can rip her feeble little mind to shreds and make her cyber-cry.
ummm...ok-what the heck were u trying to prove?j/w it seems that u were tryin to say "y not make sat. day a rest day instead or 2"...y not?cuzz then pretty soon other religions will "start"and their sabbath will be on monday,or teusday,or some other work day and thell be demanding that they too get their sabbath day deemed the true sabbath day and therefore no work then.so soon... everything will be closed cuzz every day will be someone elses rest day.its easier to just procaim sunday outr sabbath because most peeps in this country are christian,and not all of them r catholic by the way.no...thats not exactly fair but it kinda makes sense when u think about it.in our gov't,the majority rules and in this country the majority is christian...sry if thats hard to swallow for non-christians but it is true.and as 4 ur lil holiday analisis-easter celebrates christs resurection,christmas is his birth,and although many christians celebrate the holiday,valentines day isnt a christian made holiday.it was made by saint valentine to celebrate love and peace.so maybe b-4 u write something like that again,u need to do a lil more research and try to see both sides of the story.
i semi get what your trying to ask. you can not be exact accurate, b/c you really don't know. yes you are supposed to rest on the seventh day. which means no work. to me, that's sun. but if your seventh day is saturday than just don't work on that day. you also can not be sure about christmas either, but you should still know it is for christ and celebrate his birth.
I don't see why this is such a big deal. Everyone gets a rest day, why not sunday? Isn't a rest day a good idea? Sure, why not thursday, or tuesday? But Sunday happens to be the day most people want "rest". So whats the matter with that? I don't see how that is more persecutional than the 10 commandments, especially since there is no viable solution to the "tyranny" of this appointed day of rest.
However, the 10 commandments ARE religious monument, and they're influence on Western law is exaggerated, is adultury illegal? If you cuss at your parents is that illegal? Obviously those are ideas inherent in monotheistic western religion, not in the laws of the United States. And is making murder illegal really that original of an idea? However, there is a viable solution to this issue.
Many protestant denominations go to church on Sunday.
Christmas is a holiday celbrating the birth of Christ. However, at the time the date was decided, people were not sure of Christ's birthdate. Many scholars now beleive that he was born some time in October. Many Chistmas traditions are a celebration of the solstice, such as Christmas lights (having nothing to do with Christ). As you know after the winter solstice the days start to get longer and the lights are a beacon to the sun, a celebration of light. Perhaps somewhere in there is where the confusion lies.
Why is it only catholics that goto church on Sunday? The only facts you have brought up are catholic holidays, this doesn't account for the rest of the world. Yes jews are different, but so are muslims. Government injected with government is always a bad idea. This is even more true now because of the fact that America has become the land of opportunity and there are so many different groups living in this country.
St.Valentine being sexual? That is not the Catholics, that is the Americans as a whole. We have become a sex-driven society.
Christmas being sun god? First off it would be Son if anything, but secondly it was made to celebrate the fact that their god came down to earth.
I am confused totally about where you got the sexual rights festival and easter. That would be the Celts not the Catholics.
joey i think you're confused about the cause of the revolution... you might be thinking about why many europeans came to america... or another revolution... are you american? right about the sunday thing as far as i know... but wow that first part just perplexed me.
(hullo ted, i thought you had left too... god knows i had)
So, since the 10 commandments is what you think our laws are based on, then you must support the persecution of all who are not christian, because of idolatry, right? However, you didn't SHUT THE HELL UP FREAKING DOUBLE STANDARD, GOD DAMN JUST LET PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT RELIGION BEING A PART OF THE GOVERNMENT.
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