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Registered: November 29, 2003
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Rare is the election story these days that does not mention potential Vice Presidential candidates. Buzz recently has been that Obama will choose Tim Kaine (Gov. of VA) and McCain will choose Mitt Romney (former Governor of MA, former candidate for Pres.) But YouthNoise wouldn't exist if we only wanted the opinions of the "experts". What do YOU think? Is Romney too liberal for McCain? What does Kaine add to the Democratic ticket, other than the fact that his name kind of/sort of rhymes with McCain? Who do you think will REALLY be the VP nominee? Does Hillary Clinton stand a chance? What about Mike Huckabee? /This board may or may not have been created in order to knock "Barack Obama: Anti-christ?" off the top of the forum list.
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
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Registered: April 15, 2003
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Update: Biden's apparently the current frontrunner. quote: (CNN) – When Joe Biden returns to Capitol Hill Monday from his two-day trip to embattled Georgia, vice presidential speculation will rest squarely on him.
The longtime Delaware senator and former presidential candidate has long been considered to be on the shortlist for Barack Obama's running mate, but his quickly-planned trip to Georgia Saturday night at the behest of that country's president left Washington buzzing he is the most likely choice.
After all, the Georgia crisis appears to have put national security issues again at the forefront of the presidential campaign, and it's an issue where John McCain has long held the advantage over Obama. The Illinois senator, so the Beltway chatter goes, needs a running-mate with foreign policy experience now more than ever.
If Biden does aspire to be on the Democratic presidential ticket, the trip couldn't have come at a better time — reinforcing his lengthy resume on matters of foreign policy and reminding voters, and Obama, he is well respected by foreign leaders half a world away.
The trip also comes days before Obama is expected to reveal his VP choice — with only days remaining until the Democratic convention, the choice is expected to come this week.
But of course Biden suggested before he left Saturday he isn't making the trip for political reasons.
"I am going to Georgia this weekend to get the facts first-hand and to show my support for Georgia’s people and its democratically-elected government," he said in a statement. "I look forward to reporting to my colleagues in the Senate and on the Foreign Relations Committee, as well as the Administration, about what I learn."
He may have one or two conversations with his colleague from Illinois too. CNN Political Ticker
Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1396
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quote: Originally posted by katalinacmnacha89: /This board may or may not have been created in order to knock "Barack Obama: Anti-christ?" off the top of the forum list.
omg LIEberal bias y ru censoreing teh word of are lord?!?! I didn't really start paying attention to VPs until this thread called it to my attention, actually, but word is Obama's shortlist is down to Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh, and Joe Biden. Here's a general breakdown I adapted from their respective pages at OnTheIssues.org: Virginia Governor Tim KaineAbortionSupports "abstinence-focused" education; wants to ban partial-birth abortion
quote: I will reduce abortion in Virginia by enforcing current Virginia restrictions, passing an enforceable ban on partial-birth abortion, ensuring women's access to health care (including legal contraception), and promoting abstinence-focused education and adoption. We should reduce abortion in this manner, rather than by criminalizing women and doctors.
Civil Rights Personally opposes same-sex marriage but opposed an amendment to the Virginia constitution that would have defined marriage as between a man and a woman
Death Penalty Supports a moratorium on the death penalty
quote: I support a moratorium on the death penalty. The history of the death penalty in Virginia is rife with examples of people being imprisoned for years, who were innocent.
As an example, for many years, rape was a capital crime in Virginia. But when the history of execution of rape was analyzed, it became clear that rape was only a capital crime if you were African-American. That was wrong.
Drug Policy Supports the war on drugs
quote: Tim Kaine supports giving the State Police the resources they need to combat gang violence, drug dealers and terrorism. As Governor, Kaine would expand the Virginia State Police's Counter-Terrorism and Criminal Interdiction Units to fight gang and drug activity in local communities and investigate and interrupt terrorist cells.
Education His administration refused to fund NCLB Act
Gun Control Strongly supports the Second Amendment
quote: Tim Kaine strongly supports the Second Amendment. As the next Governor of Virginia, he will not propose any new gun laws. Instead Tim Kaine will guarantee strict enforcement of our existing criminal laws. He will also expand the use of such enforcement strategies as Project Exile that target criminals who use guns rather than law-abiding gun owners.
Healthcare Seems to support programs to help seniors with prescription drug costs
quote: Skyrocketing health care costs are hurting small businesses and pushing millions of working Americans into the ranks of the uninsured. The White House has made efforts to cut Medicaid funds for our most vulnerable citizens. Our seniors were promised that the new federal Medicare drug plan would make it easier and cheaper to obtain their medication. Instead, many have fallen victim to the program's poor planning. They find getting their medicine to be more complex, more expensive and less reliable.
Conclusions He's more conservative than I'd like, which could be a double-edged sword for Obama. On one hand, Kaine's stances on abortion and gun control could make Obama more palatable to undecided right-leaning voters, but the same stances could also alienate left-leaning undecideds. I hope he's not Obama's choice, but I have a sinking feeling he might be to offset accusations that Obama's too liberal. He also has the least experience of the three--he's been in state government since 1998 and has never held a federal position.
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Indiana Senator Evan Bayh
Abortion Mixed record; supports a ban on partial birth abortions and parental notification, but otherwise is pro-choice
Civil Rights Supports ban on flag desecration Opposes gay marriage ban Supports looser wiretapping regulations Supports strengthened hate crime laws Supports affirmative action
Death Penalty Supports broadening the death penalty
Drug Policy Opposes increased penalties for drug-related crimes
Education Consistently votes in favor of increased education funding
Energy Policy Strong support for sustainable energy Opposes drilling in ANWR
Gun Control Supports more rigorous background checks Opposes banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers
Healthcare Consistently supported Medicare
Conclusions Most of his voting record is encouraging, but I'm wary of his stances on abortion, flag desecration, and so on. He's relatively young, 53 years old to Obama's 47, but he's been in government since 1986. I'm not thrilled by Bayh, but he's preferable to Kaine.
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Delaware Senator Joe Biden
Abortion Mixed record; opposes partial birth abortion and public funding for abortion, but otherwise is pro-choice
Civil Rights Opposes gay marriage ban; thinks gay marriage is inevitable Opposes ban on flag desecration Supports looser wiretapping laws Supports affirmative action
Death Penalty
quote: Designated 50 new federal offenses, including gang membership, and created several new federal death penalty offenses, including murders related to drug dealing, drive-by shooting murders, civil rights-related murders, murders of federal law enforcement officers, and death caused by acts of terrorism or weapons of mass destruction.
The law was passed shortly before the Oklahoma City bombing, and its provisions were applied to execute Timothy McVeigh. The legislation received bipartisan support, but was reviled by death penalty opponents and civil libertarians. Some believe it broke ground for the USA PATRIOT Act of 2001.
Drug Policy Supports a national public smoking ban Opposes increased penalties for drug offenses Created nation's Drug Czar office
quote: Biden has sought to take the lead on drug policy, spearheading creation of a "Drug Czar" and crafting laws to control narcotics--measures that are widely viewed as pretty much of a failure.
Education Supports increased education funding Supports sex ed Opposes requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer
Energy Policy Supports sustainable energy Opposes drilling in ANWR
Gun Control Supports more rigorous background checks Opposes banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers
Healthcare Supports universal medical coverage
quote: Q: Do you favor universal coverage for everyone without exception?
A: Yes, I do.
Q: How would you pay for it?
A: I would pay for it by three ways. 1) I start off dealing with going into a prevention-and-treatment mode here that required us to simplify and modernize the system. That could save $100 billion a year in redundancy that goes on right now. 2) I would immediately provide for catastrophic health insurance for all Americans, and I'd immediately move for insuring every single child in America. That would cost less than what the top 1% tax break costs, $85 billion a year. 3) Then what I would do is I would move to insuring everyone through one of two vehicles. Either a system we work out among the stakeholders, an agreement that everyone essentially gets Medicare from the time you're born or a system whereby everyone can buy into the federal system. Those who don't have the means to buy in, then you subsidize them into the system. I would pay for that by direct revenues.
Conclusions Joe Biden is the oldest of the three at 66 years old, but he also has tremendous legislative experience--he's been a senator since 1973. Biden's wealth of experience could offset Obama's perceived lack of experience somewhat. He seems to be the most liberal of the three overall, which could be either an asset or a liability. The ticket wouldn't have much appeal to right-leaning undecided voters, but it might attract voters who would be turned off by someone like Kaine.
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So there's my admittedly uneducated take on it. I think Kaine has the most centrist appeal and would present the most ideologically balanced ticket, but Obama/Biden presents the most hope for a progressive administration.
That said, it'll probably wind up Obama/Kaine and I'll cry a li'l.
Comedy option: Obama/Gore.
Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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