jack ryan, the illini republican senate candidate pulled out of the race yesterday, because of increasing pressure and accusations of bringing his wife to a sex club and telling her to perform sex publicly.
this one i blame on the republicans. The republicans ran and fell away from ryan instead of trying to tell people its none of their business. we lose another conservative senator in a much needed area.
if jack ryan wants to do somthing cinky with his wife, its none of anyone's business. dont compare this situation to clinton because they are both very much different. if you want me to explain why, then ask. This is all the republican's fault for not standing by their candidate like they are supposed to.

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well i dont think that stuff is anyones business when you're in office either. it has nothing to do with how you run a country.

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Originally posted by madpuffinkeeper:
You said that, red. Now I am asking you: _Why_ would it be different depending on whether or not the man was in office at the time, as you have already claimed it would be?

Stop dodging and answer.

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ok he was not even in politics when this happened. if he wasnt under any polical office or wasnt even involved with politics, WHAT MAKES HIM DIFFERENT FROM ME OR YOU?

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Originally posted by katalinacmnacha89:

You would love that with you? You just seem to adore the mindless evidence-less conspiracy. Oh, but you have made some improvements. You actually blamed something on the republican party. Congratulations!!

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read my post i said "i BELIEVE kerry was cheating on his wife" not he was cheating on his wife. it wouldnt be brash and wriong to say he was without looking at his records. and you are right it wouldnt torpedo his chances because liberals can get away with anything. actually i think the republican party heads in illinois are a bunch of dim witted idiots. but i wasnt damning the entire party.

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if he was in office or it happened while he was in office, that would be a difference.

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You said that, red. Now I am asking you: Why would it be different depending on whether or not the man was in office at the time, as you have already claimed it would be?

Stop dodging and answer.

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Originally posted by redrepublican:

i believe kerry was cheating on his wife. but thats just me. maybe if his records are shown, it will torpedo his chances for presdency.

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You would love that with you? You just seem to adore the mindless evidence-less conspiracy. Oh, but you have made some improvements. You actually blamed something on the republican party. Congratulations!!

"lost one"....ahhh, and wouldn't it be great if we could conveniently loose you.

why should he be held to a different standard when he is not even in office when he did it? nor in any politcal office? its not even really that bad. there was no abuse or anything. he asked her onece maybe even an annoying second time but then backed down.
i believe kerry was cheating on his wife. but thats just me. maybe if his records are shown, it will torpedo his chances for presdency.

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he wasnt even in any office of power.

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The question I am asking you is simple: What difference does it make whether or not he was in office at the time?

ryan didnt even force her. he asked her once maybe even twice but then backed down. he wasnt even in any office of power. if republicans do not stand up and use this tactic against the democrats, republican candidates are going to get nuked in every election. Not to mention that this election ( US senate) is very important to keep the republicans in the majority.
i do not believe divorce records should be brought into politics. but if the republicans dont stand up nd reverse this tactic and use it against the democrats, there will hardly be any chance that a republican will be in office.
If this tactic is reversed and used against the democrats, i will gurantee you the dems will never use this tactic again.
why not hit them hard? why dont we have a conservative media organization sue for Kerry's records and force him to drop out of the race?
that will teach liberals a lesson.
you know that the liberal media will NEVER sue for kerry's records or for that matter any liberals records.
This double standard needs to be stopped before it is too late.

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Originally posted by madpuffinkeeper:
If it's none of our business, why do you care that he lied?

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are we talking about clinton? because ryan was kicked out for perjury, only because he was embarrassed.

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but i still think that image is everything

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It may very well be, but should it be? Shouldn't it matter more if he is a good politican (if there's such a thing) than what he does in his personal life?

If it's none of our business, why do you care that he lied?

he lied. he did not admit that he did such things. having an affair is his business but when you lie about it especially when you lie to a Grand Jury and your country, then there is a difference. Besides the fact that Clinton is a rapist, what he did in office was not with his own wife; what he did was morally wrong for anyone in with that type of power.
what kind of person did clinton portray himself as? do we need to have a leader who rapes and then lies about it?
i go off sometimes about clinton and his affairs because that is ethically and morally wrong.
im not saaying what ryan was trying to make his wife do was not immoral., but its nobody's bsiness what he does with his own wife.

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No ones sex should be anyone's business.

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Oh, so you don't care about Clinton's sex scandals?

"Responsibility to whom? Are you saying that "regular" people have none of this responsibility? Was he "in the spotlight" when he was asking his wife to do this? Or was it on his own private time? "

responsiblity to the people he represents, muffin. We have responsibility but not that type of responsibility.


"So my sex is none of your business, but a senator's is? What's the big ******* difference? Sex is sex is sex. Why does it matter who's having it, or just talking about it, in their free time? Oh, gee, I'm going to college on publicly funded financial aid. Maybe I shouldn't be eligible for it since I have sex. Good logic"

No ones sex should be anyone's business. But the libs wouldnt have that. they sued for weeks and weeks until Ryan's records were opened up. What it comes down to is control. The libs did not want another republican sitting in the Senate house so they dirty their hands a bit.

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if it happens in office everyone should know about it because he would be on the spotlight then because he actually has some responsibility.

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Responsibility to whom? Are you saying that "regular" people have none of this responsibility? Was he "in the spotlight" when he was asking his wife to do this? Or was it on his own private time?

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but if this happened years ago when he has no duty to people, what makes him different from you or me?

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So my sex is none of your business, but a senator's is? What's the big ******* difference? Sex is sex is sex. Why does it matter who's having it, or just talking about it, in their free time? Oh, gee, I'm going to college on publicly funded financial aid. Maybe I shouldn't be eligible for it since I have sex. Good logic.

if it happens in office everyone should know about it because he would be on the spotlight then because he actually has some responsibility. but if this happened years ago when he has no duty to people, what makes him different from you or me?

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... Still not answering my question. Typical.

do you think that divorce records should be caught up in politics? it would things soo much more messier. i dont believe he forced her just asked her and she said no. he probably kept asking but she said no. so really i dont think they ever did have sex publicly. that accusation is unfounded.

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