One of my friends sent me this email last night... If anyone has any information about this topic, please post. What does everyone think of this?

"US Preparing for Military Draft in Spring 2005
by Adam Stutz • Wednesday January 28, 2004 at 09:50 AM
The current agenda of the US federal government is to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism." Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election!

Reinstatement of the draft

Dear Friends and Family,

I urge you to read the article below on the current agenda of the federal government to reinstate the draft in order to staff up for a protracted war on "terrorism."

Pending legislation in the House and Senate (twin bills S 89 and HR 163) would time the program so the draft could begin at early as Spring 2005 -- conveniently just after the 2004 presidential election! But the administration is quietly trying to get these bills passed NOW, so our action is needed immediately. Details and links follow.

If voters who currently support U.S. aggression abroad were confronted with the possibility that their own children or grandchildren might not have a say about whether to fight, many of these same voters might have a change of mind. (Not that it should make a difference, but this plan would among other things eliminate higher education as a shelter and would not exclude women -- and Canada is no longer an option.)

Please send this on to all the parents and teachers you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents.... And let your children know -- it's their future, and they can be a powerful voice for change! Please also write to your representatives to ask them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills -- and write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're not covering this important story.

The Draft*

$28 million has been added to the 2004 Selective Service System (SSS) budget to prepare for a military draft that could start as early as June 15, 2005. SSS must report to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for decades, is ready for activation. Please see website: http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view the SSS Annual Performance Plan - Fiscal Year 2004.

The Pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots nationwide.. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military experts and influential members of Congress are suggesting that if Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan [and a permanent state of war on "terrorism"] proves accurate, the U.S. may have no choice but to draft.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5146.htm

Congress brought twin bills, S. 89 and H.R. 163 forward this year, entitled the Universal National Service Act of 2003, "To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons [age 18--26] in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills currently sit in the Committee on Armed Services.

Dodging the draft will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era remember. College and Canada will not be options. In December 2001, Canada and the US signed a "Smart Border Declaration," which could be used to keep would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's Minister of Foreign Affairs, John Manley, and US Homeland Security Director, Gov. Tom Ridge, the declaration involves a 30-point plan which implements, among other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone service until the end of their cur-rent semester. Seniors would have until the end of the academic year.

*This article by Adam Stutz is from the "What's Hot Off the Press" column of the newsletter of Project Censored, a media research group at Sonoma State University that tracks the news published in independent journals and newsletters. From these, Project Censored compiles an annual list (more than 20 years running) of 25 news stories of social significance that have been overlooked, under-reported, or self-censored by the country's major national news media. The mission of Project Censored is "to educate people about the role of independent journalism in a democratic society and to tell The News That Didn't Make the News and why."

"So we went to war because we MIGHT be able to stop terrorists who just MIGHT have WMDs"

if we would have left him in power he would have acquired uranium.



"(WMDs that are not mustard and serin gas- the crap excuse you keep coming up with that is supposed to justify the thousands and thousands of casulties)"

what thousands? there are now thousands. we have a little less than a thousands US dead. Mustard and Serin or WMDs that like sayin come up with a nuclear weapon oh and it cant be an atomic bomb or a nuclear warhead. you can say that because sarin and mustard are WMDs.


. "Thats really great, red. We went on a chance. Thousands died on a inkling."


ya and do you want to know whose GOd damn faulty evidence we went to war on was? an extrememly liberal ambassador who used his wife to get to niger just so that he could peddle false information back to the administration in the hopes that it would undermine his presidency. we went to war on some dumb *** liberal's faulty information. it wasnt bush who lied it was this little maggot liberl.


"Bush had to decide between the deaths of our country's citizens and another country's. He chose Iraq."

we have less that a thousand dead in Iraq. dont give me your **** on oproof look it up for your self.


"You obviosly didn't see Fahrenheit 9-11 so I'll tell you: military recruiters go to poor towns and offer college money if they serve like a couple weeks a year and instead they get shipped off to Iraq or Afghanistan for months or years."

My God, someone is yuusing that ****ing movie as fact? let me clue you in since you are so incompettent to do it yourself. he ditorts facts grossly its what moore does, and hey guess what a week before the movie came, out Bush and Kerry were tied in the polls right? well recently the Washington Post came out with a poll and Bush was 5% ahead of Kerry in the polls. the movie had a positive impact! lol. im not giving you proof look it up for yourself iom sure it has to be in teh archives somewhere.


"As I constantly have to remind you in the other thread, come up with some proof, please."


you are too inept to understand that clinton had five terrorist attackls during his presidency. he destroyed our intelligence agecies. proof? look at his deep cuts in teh CIA funding in teh early 90's its all true. the CIA had to vcut about 20% of their agents, their budget fell 30% and they had to take down several spy sattellites. look it up for your self i have provided proof but you cant believe that your demigod clinton could do anything wrong.


"Do I need to remind you of the state of Iraq? Or of how we have found no WMDs WORTH WORRYING ABOUT? Or of how long we are going to be there? Or how since Bush ended the major fighting in Iraq MORE soliers have died then DURING the major fighting in Iraq? Can you honestly tell me that this war has worked out exactly as you wanted it to? I don't think thats possible."

Sarin and Mustard are stuff to worry about! that it\s one of the major causes of the hundreds of thousands v\buried in Iraq. dont give me the crap about proof go stick your head in one of those mass graves. less than a thousand you moron. again it was a liberals faulty evidence that we went to war on. he lied not bush.


"Tell me how. Come up with proof for once."

i dont owe you ****. but for your information i already clued you in to how clinton destroyed teh CIA and teh CIA was the problem in the occurence with 911.
you are blinded i have come up with proof and i owe nothing to you. you need to sit down and knock sense into your brain.

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"Bush said himself that there would be hard times ahead ther always is. he neve promised anything on stopping terroist or for that matter any attacks. no man can do that."

So we went to war because we MIGHT be able to stop terrorists who just MIGHT have WMDs (WMDs that are not mustard and serin gas- the crap excuse you keep coming up with that is supposed to justify the thousands and thousands of casulties). Thats really great, red. We went on a chance. Thousands died on a inkling.

"lol. thats funny. you are saying we should have left saddam in power so that he could continue his inhumane and morbid atrocities and mass murder? "

Bush had to decide between the deaths of our country's citizens and another country's. He chose Iraq.

"those soldiers knoew htat when they signed up for the Armed Forces, that they had the chance of going to war and possibly the chance of death. they have died fightinga great evil enemy i will put this question out agian. how is that a waste?"


You obviosly didn't see Fahrenheit 9-11 so I'll tell you: military recruiters go to poor towns and offer college money if they serve like a couple weeks a year and instead they get shipped off to Iraq or Afghanistan for months or years.


"jeopardizing. i dont think so child. it was clinton who jeopardized the lives of American people."

As I constantly have to remind you in the other thread, come up with some proof, please.


"mess he started how the hell is the war on terror a mess?"

Do I need to remind you of the state of Iraq? Or of how we have found no WMDs WORTH WORRYING ABOUT? Or of how long we are going to be there? Or how since Bush ended the major fighting in Iraq MORE soliers have died then DURING the major fighting in Iraq? Can you honestly tell me that this war has worked out exactly as you wanted it to? I don't think thats possible.

"it was clinton how destroyed america it was clinton's faulkt that the 911 occured. it was clinton's fault that we had a reccessive economy from a period of several years. all the things that are labeled as bush's blunders can be traced back to clinton."


Tell me how. Come up with proof for once.

and I think all conservatives that think this war is improving sentiment for the US should go to baghdad and talk to the people who's homes and families were destroyed.

i think all liberals who think that this war is a waste should go to baghdad for an hour and see what its like.

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I support this war %100. I do not want to fight in the war but if I am drafted, you can bet your best dollar that I will serve this country without hesitation. If Kerry is president (God forbid) I will serve too.

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i dont want to have a military track but i sure as hell will fight in this war if there was a draft.


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"Unfortunitly im only 13 and don't understand or follow alot of the political stuff, but in my opinion, the war is totally off track."

how so?

"didn't it start with Sadam??"

technically no.


"This war is killing hundreds of people- inocent people."

most of which are done by teh insurgents

" Bush keeps saying how this is a war on terrorism and he thinks this is going to protect others from future attacks."

Bush said himself that there would be hard times ahead ther always is. he neve promised anything on stopping terroist or for that matter any attacks. no man can do that.


" I say that if he really cared about the welfare of other people he stop this war."

lol. thats funny. you are saying we should have left saddam in power so that he could continue his inhumane and morbid atrocities and mass murder?

"the sodiers and the families of the soldiers are the ones sufering the greatest. Bush just sits on his .... bum.... with his 20 guards pretending he cares."

those soldiers knoew htat when they signed up for the Armed Forces, that they had the chance of going to war and possibly the chance of death. they have died fightinga great evil enemy i will put this question out agian. how is that a waste?


"He doesn't get how he is truely jeperdizing the lives of 1000000's of people like you and me."

jeopardizing. i dont think so child. it was clinton who jeopardized the lives of American people.

"We are the future. wat kind of an example are any of these people setting? Wen we are older we're gonna be stuck with the mess he started!!!"

mess he started how the hell is the war on terror a mess? it was clinton how destroyed america it was clinton's faulkt that the 911 occured. it was clinton's fault that we had a reccessive economy from a period of several years. all the things that are labeled as bush's blunders can be traced back to clinton.

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I support this war %100. I do not want to fight in the war but if I am drafted, you can bet your best dollar that I will serve this country without hesitation. If Kerry is president (God forbid) I will serve too.

Unfortunitly im only 13 and don't understand or follow alot of the political stuff, but in my opinion, the war is totally off track. didn't it start with Sadam?? This war is killing hundreds of people- inocent people. Bush keeps saying how this is a war on terrorism and he thinks this is going to protect others from future attacks. I say that if he really cared about the welfare of other people he stop this war. the sodiers and the families of the soldiers are the ones sufering the greatest. Bush just sits on his .... bum.... with his 20 guards pretending he cares. He doesn't get how he is truely jeperdizing the lives of 1000000's of people like you and me. We are the future. wat kind of an example are any of these people setting? Wen we are older we're gonna be stuck with the mess he started!!!

I think everyone that agrees with bush (man or women) and the war should go too war, and those who completely disagree with it shouldn't. If all else fails and u don't want to join the military and go to war...say your gay...or if your a women get pregnant!!

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That's exactly what I pointed out in one of the earlier posts :

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Good thing for reposting it. Most people don't look through the old posts. I was just making sure these new guys knew that.

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Actually, all this draft hubub has been created by a bill introduced by DEMOCRATIC congressmen.

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That's exactly what I pointed out in one of the earlier posts :

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Fritz Hollins, a Democratic Senator, and Charlie Rangold, a Democratic Congressman, the two who introduced the bill were against the War in Iraq. The proposal is obviously a sarcastic gesture to scare the public into opposing the invasion even more and to up John Kerry's chances of being elected next fall. Also, the military recently reported that they had to turn down as many as 2/5 applicants because of too many people signing up for the army. Patriotism should never be dictated. Such a step would further increase the chances of the United States becoming an authoritarian society where citizens don't have the right to choose how they live their lives.

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The more important thing is that the Bush administration is thinking of reinstating the draft at all.

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Actually, all this draft hubub has been created by a bill introduced by DEMOCRATIC congressmen.

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If the government is already planning to institute a draft in a year from now, that just shows that they don't have faith that we are accomplishing anything over in Iraq. They seem to already know that we need more soldiers to get the job done, which shows me that the situation is not getting better, and we are just getting more involved in the conflict.

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A draft is not planned.

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Who cares about women being drafted, we wanted equal rights and we got them, the good along with the bad. The more important thing is that the Bush administration is thinking of reinstating the draft at all. It shows that the country is reacting to the war in Iraq in a similar way that we reacted while in Vietnam. Bush must have more wars planned for the future if he gets elected, and the draft just goes to show what he is planning for us in 2005.

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Women will not be drafted you ignoramous. Also there is not a draft planed as has been stated numerous times.

Why dont you numbskulls do some ****ing research before flapping your jaws?

Who cares about women being drafted, we wanted equal rights and we got them, the good along with the bad. The more important thing is that the Bush administration is thinking of reinstating the draft at all. It shows that the country is reacting to the war in Iraq in a similar way that we reacted while in Vietnam. Bush must have more wars planned for the future if he gets elected, and the draft just goes to show what he is planning for us in 2005.

If the government is already planning to institute a draft in a year from now, that just shows that they don't have faith that we are accomplishing anything over in Iraq. They seem to already know that we need more soldiers to get the job done, which shows me that the situation is not getting better, and we are just getting more involved in the conflict.

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why wouldnt women be drafted?

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A little thing called PMS that men hate to deal with.

Yeah i agree my orange signature is sexy.

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why wouldnt women be drafted?

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I am guilty of generalizing but what I should have said was that women are not required to sign up for selective service and therfore are not in the draft pool unless they choose to do so. In contrast, almost all male citizens are required to signup.

If you are up for a lengthy read regarding this I dug up a good page for ya.

http://www.sss.gov/wmbkgr.htm

omg the coalition now has a little orange signature...much more professional, guys, congratulations.

why wouldnt women be drafted?

For ****'s sake dude. Just read! There is not going to be a draft. If there was, women would not be drafted. Your friend from the army is full of ****.