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Picture of Gothrockerchic
Registered: April 18, 2004
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Should this act still be put to use? What are the negitive/positive things about it? Is it helping or hurting the schools of the US? Has it helped your school at all? Do you support this act or should it be changed?
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Registered: December 09, 2004
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I think the intentions of the Act are good, but they are going about reforming the Educational system the wrong way.

From what I understand, the schools that do not perform as well in their standardized tests get their funding pulled... Shouldn't low test scores be a clue that extra funding is needed in a struggling school district?

The Act also works to make sure that teachers have the proper degrees for teaching the subjects they do, to prevent high level math courses from being taught by an extra art teacher, for example. However, in rural areas where there may be a limited number of teachers available, it might be more immediately beneficial for a teacher with fewer credentials to teach a subject rather than have no teacher at all or to have the school close down.

Again, the Educational system does need to undergo some major changes, but I think No Child Left Behind needs some serious revision.

*** If anything I said is incorrect, please let me know. A lot of this is second-hand info. Thanks.
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Registered: December 08, 2004
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I have a very great hate for this act. My school is a verygood school with several acedemic awards and yet it is on "probation" because the was not enough progress in the department which helps the developmentally challenged people. I say we all go with what Utah was going to do and just refuse government funds. My sister, who is studying to become a highschool science teacher has been keeping up on this act a lot. She would like nothing better than to get rid of it.

Also, in Washington state, you now have to pass all these tests to graduate. I am in the last year that is free from this policy.

It is a highly ill thought out plan.
Registered: May 30, 2004
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Let's see. Create a program that takes money away from schools who fail to meet targets, thus making it harder for them to teach. Underfund the program. And you think there will be no negatives effects.

I'm sorry, but NCLB is B.S., it requires schools to focus on tests rather then learning. I myself am I good test taker, some people I know are not...but they are better students then I am. Our school system should reflect the different styles of learning, not everybody can pass every test they take, especially the one's who can not afford tutors.
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Registered: May 29, 2004
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My high school hit pretty hard on this on, and I hate it.

The intelligent majority of the class is being drug down by the kids who need special attention. It is cutting back on the arts, which is hard for people like myself who want to seek higher education in the arts.

Yes, some children need extra help. But the whole should not be judged on these slower few.
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Registered: January 24, 2004
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Yeah, I'm not dumb though, but I make the spelling and grammatical errors, because I tend to think faster than I type. I'm sorry it was aggravating you. And plus I was just saying about the test at my school where in fact just the sophomores take it.
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Registered: April 07, 2003
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is actually one of the very few good ideas that have managed to leak its way out of this administration. Mind you it doesn't work too well for small schools in little towns or villages who lack the funding to be able to put this properly in to effect, but overall it is a very good thing for our country in the long run.
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Registered: September 06, 2003
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My mom is a school teacher and she comes home complaining about this act a lot. She said that there are always the (lol) "stupid people" in the class that pull everyone down (she teaches math). I think that it is a stupid act as well just because I have classes with people like this, and instead of pulling themselves back, it just pulls the whole class instead.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I think it's ineffective and should just should just be put out of use. I mean if no one is beneffitting from it, then why mess up everyone elses schedules in the school day in order for all the sophmores to take the test?
Well, in our school, both the sophmores and the junior take it.

I cannot help this. Meandi, your "corrections" contain mistakes, as well: "I think it's ineffective and should just be put out of use. I mean, if no one is benefiting from it, why mess up everyone else's schedules in the school day in order for all the sophomores to take the test? Well, in our school, both the sophomores and juniors take it."

If you're going to attempt to correct someone, do it correctly.
Picture of Gothrockerchic
Registered: April 18, 2004
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I have not seen a real effect in my school. But in schools around me they have seen a really effect. First they have already had lots of funding cut. That means no one on one teachers, for the kids like my little brother who are slow and can not do their work with out some one's help. Second the "No Child Left Behind Act" says that kids who can't score well on there tests are to get extra help. The problem with out the funds we used to have we can't help these other kids as well. There for the schools are getting in trouble by the government, but there is nothing the schools can do. So tell what is the point of this act???
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Registered: January 27, 2003
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All the No Child Left Behind Act has done in my school is held those of us that are gifted back.
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Registered: August 26, 2003
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i think its ineffective and should just be put out of use. i mean if no one is benefitting from it, then why mess up everyone elses schedules in the school day in order for all the sophomores to take the test...

I think it's ineffective and should just should just be put out of use. I mean if no one is beneffitting from it, then why mess up everyone elses schedules in the school day in order for all the sophmores to take the test?
Well, in our school, both the sophmores and the junior take it.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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The "No Child Left Behind" Act is one of the most insignificant programs initiated. The testing is pointless, and the bureaucrats in office know NOTHING about teaching, or how students learn, yet they're making these completely asinine programs that simply disrupt and complicate whatever potential learning that would otherwise be going on.
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Registered: January 24, 2004
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i think its ineffective and should just be put out of use. i mean if no one is benefitting from it, then why mess up everyone elses schedules in the school day in order for all the sophomores to take the test...
Registered: March 25, 2004
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we need to start taking the SAT before Senior year, or we die alone and hungry.


you are not going to die alone and hungry if you dont take the SATs! There are plenty of oppurtunities in the US so feel lucky to live here!
Registered: March 25, 2004
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i really havent seen much of a change. I am still with the same people in school ive known snce kindergarten. not many new editions from a previosly homeless life.
Registered: December 01, 2003
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if so tell me where Smile
Registered: March 12, 2004
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first off... nothing i said was wrong

second... you take the SAT in your junior year typically...not your senior year... Confused
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Registered: August 26, 2003
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It has helped a lot of kids who are homeless. It has given them a family, a place to live, and a latitude to learn. I can't think of any negitive things that the No Child Left Behind act has.
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Registered: July 11, 2002
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both of you are wrong, the "no child left behind" act has had some serious lasting effects on me. i go to Blair HS and it's on the maryland/dc borderline. so if something new happens in congress, we're usually the first to hear about it. we're like the most important school in our county because it's bigger, and more over-populated than any other school around here. we have 4000 students, teachers, administrators, and building services. try and move in thse hallways between classes, and you'll see what the no child left behind act has done over the past year. more and more tests are being shoved down our throats. we need to start taking the SAT before Senior year, or we die alone and hungry. there are new special state-wide tests being issued that have no redeeming value whatsoever. we need to pass these tests, or we die alone and hungry. there's a new homework policy; marked as incomplete if there's over three problems wrong. if we don't do our homework then we die alone and hungry.

don't tell me the act hasn't had any effects. hell, we were the pilot program fo god's sakes.
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