Pro-Abort

It's only an operation. No human being is present. Why not operate?

Pro-Life

A person's genetic code begins at conception. The fertilized egg can only develop into a human life. Therefore, a human life worthy of protection.

Pro-Abort

A woman has the absolute right to do what she wants with her own body.

pro-Life

Suicide laws are based on the premise that we belong together and are responsible for each other. We are social beings, so we do not have an absolute right to our bodies.

Pro-Abort

The legal system

Pro-Life

"Legal" does not make it right. Some laws are immoral or contradict higher laws.

Pro-Abort

It is an effective for of contraception.

Pro-Life

Abortion is not contraceptive. Conception has already taken place.

Pro-Abort

Better the child be dead than unwanted.

Pro-Life

Isnt this presumptuous? Let the child grow up and decide on its own. Dont you hate others telling you whats good for you?

Pro_Abort

It's convenient and helps eliminate unwanted pregnancies.

Pro-Life

Fosters irresponsibility. People are accountable for their own actions. There ae other options like adoption.

Pro-Abort

Helps control population.

Pro-Life

So does murder, euthenasia, and suicide. There are other, moral means.

Pro-Abort

Should be okay in cases of rape and incest.

Pro-Life

A tough issue. The infant is not responsible for the original act. Though tragic, we must defend the innocent life. A good end does not justlify evil means. (Getting rid of the baby does not justify why you did it.)

Pro-Abort

The baby may be born retarded or handicapped.

Pro-Life

Is this to say the person has no value?This is a gross form of prejudice against a minority. Why not do the same for anyone who is not fully conscious?

Pro- Abort

It is economical and keeps down the cost of welfare.

Pro-Life

Is money more inportant than a life? There are other ways i.e. sex education, one's own judgement, and elimination of poverty.

Pro-Abort

Pushing a pro-life amendment or law is forcing your religious beliefs on others.

Pro-Life

Don't we (religious) have the right to defend innocent human life as we see fit in a democracy? Many civil rights were unpopular at first.

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I am 16. I am 7 weeks and 3 days along on my pregnancy. I am scheduled to have my abortion tomorrow morning in Fairfax, Virginia at 10 in the morning. My parents are forcing me. I have no say in what happens to my baby. Someone please tell me what rights I have. I don't know what to do.

I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner. I may be too late, but perhaps if you contact your local Planned Parenthood they'd be able to tell you. Though I suspect minors don't have much say. I'm not very aware of the rights of minors in Virginia.

1-800-230-PLAN

I am 16. I am 7 weeks and 3 days along on my pregnancy. I am scheduled to have my abortion tomorrow morning in Fairfax, Virginia at 10 in the morning. My parents are forcing me. I have no say in what happens to my baby. Someone please tell me what rights I have. I don't know what to do.

Religion can't be part of anyone's arguement because we aren't dealing with one ethnic group. We are talking about an issue in a diverse country.

Sometimes circumstances make it difficult for a woman to keep her child but this is obviously not something that can just be given an excuse. Abortion should be the choice of the woman carrying the child not the decision of the government

The big issue in abortion arguments is whether the fetus is a "baby", or just a part of the mother, like a liver, or a kidney.

I fully believe that anyone, man or women, should have full right to his or her body. They should be able to commit suicide, smoke marijuana, or prostitute themselves, because those acts are not infringing upon the rights of another.

Did you know that (at least in the state of kansas) when you abuse a pregnant dog, you get charged and fined animal abuse for the dog, AND her puppies? You don't get fined for abusing her liver, or her right leg. But for her PUPPIES, because they are alive, just like a human fetus. They are not just an extension of a womens body. In an abortion, the women is infringing upon the rights of her child. Abortion doesn't make you un-pregnant. It makes you the mother of a dead baby.

There exists the right to life, and the right to deny it or take it away. This is in regards to abortion (where the fetus is still a physical part of the mother) and euthanasia (where the patient chooses to die). Wouldn't you agree that all people have the right to determine what they do with their body as well as the right to choose when they cease to live?

Perhaps our opinions will differ on this, but I believe the fetus is a physical part of the mother until it is born and the umbilical cord is cut, thus physically separating offspring from parent.

Didnt want to us religion as an argument, but he has a point...

"Another key element of human ecology is the inviolability of human life, especially at its beginning and its end. The Holy See insistently proclaims that the first and most fundamental of all human rights is the right to life, and that when this right is denied all other rights are threatened. The assumption that abortion and euthanasia are human rights deserving legislative sanction is seen by the Holy See as a contradiction which amounts to a denial of the human dignity and freedom which the law is supposed to protect. A society will be judged on the basis of how it treats its weakest members; and among the most vulnerable are surely the unborn and the dying."


Pope John Paul II

To say that one must come before a court (obviously not literally)in order to recieve approval for her abortion, then what does that mean for society? Next will we have people getting permission to have a cataract surgery? Whether it's an abortion or an operation, you should have control over your body. You make the decision, not people who don't know you. Honestly, I can't see how abortion laws can stay in place. Do human (not fetus) rights and America ring a bell? Ah, there it is. Ding-dong. Ding-dong.

Oh, and Brehon, that most definately is an acorn.

Why should a fetus lose its right to life just because of the manner in which it was conceived?

By supporting choice in cases of rape, you seem to concede that there are occasions in which the woman should have control over her body (correct me if that inference is incorrect). However, how can we judge through legislation what circumstances to allow that choice, and what circumstances not to allow that choice? Judge not, lest ye be judged.

I am Pro-choice, and that's not saying that I think it's right to take a child's life. I just think that there are some situations where a women should be able to get an abortion. Like rape or where it would hurt the women if she had it. I can't vote to pass something that would make a young girl who was raped have that baby..I just can't.

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Originally posted by Sphinx:
Personally, I'm against abortion. It's killing an inoccent child and no matter how you look at it you're still ending life. I'm sure it does foster irresponsibility though because the places that have legalized abortion now have the highest unwanted pregnancy rates.

I only have one question.
What is this:

an acorn, or an oak tree?

I lived in Texas for half my life, and I have relatives in Florida, Mississippi, and Kentucky, among other places.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Uber-religious is one phrase that readily pops up. Everyone's also the same down there, which really bugged me. Why do you ask?

Just asking. And another question for you if you don't mind. Have you ever taken the time and visited any places in the South?

Uber-religious is one phrase that readily pops up. Everyone's also the same down there, which really bugged me.

Why do you ask?

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Originally posted by clpo13:
They just don't know what condoms are. Or don't believe in them. Either way, I wouldn't want to live there.

Sorry to get off topic but can I ask you a question clpo13? Do you have any other opinions about the South? I mean, other than condoms, homosexuality, and effeminate men, what other thoughts that come into your mind when you think of the South? I am just curious as to hear what you have to say.

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I'm sure it does foster irresponsibility though because the places that have legalized abortion now have the highest unwanted pregnancy rates.

That's actually not true, unless you're talking whole countries, in which case it is true. In the United States, the rates of unwanted teenage pregnancies are highest in the Deep South, also known as the Bible Belt. The people there view abortion as one of the worst sins, right up there with effeminate men and homosexuality. They'd much rather have abortion made illegal and punishable by death. The irresponsibility of the Deep South is completely unrelated to abortion. They just don't know what condoms are. Or don't believe in them.

Either way, I wouldn't want to live there.

Personally, I'm against abortion. It's killing an inoccent child and no matter how you look at it you're still ending life. I'm sure it does foster irresponsibility though because the places that have legalized abortion now have the highest unwanted pregnancy rates.

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Pro-Life
There are other ways i.e. sex education, one's own judgement, and elimination of poverty.

Sex education isn't always the best preventitive. There's sex education in my school but girls still get pregnant. I think that the education of sex should start in the home. Just because a person has judgement doesn't mean that he/she makes good use of it. Poverty is an easy thing to get into but a hard thing to get out of. If it were that easy to get out of than no one would be in it.

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Pro-Life
Fosters irresponsibility. People are accountable for their own actions. There are other options like adoption.

Right, and there's no such thing as blame. When people start being accountable will be the day that there is a perfect and peacful world.There are too many kids in the foster care system already. They will stay there until they are of legal age. Then what's supposed to happen? Do you think that they are going to forget that easily that no one wanted them, not even their own parents?

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Well isnt that nice of you...too bad you couldnt go through all of that pregnancy to give couples who can't have kids your "unwanted" one.

I thought I explained that already...there are already millions of kids that need a home, I am not going to add to that.

I don't consider the fetus to be a person yet(when you have the abortion), therefore I don't think it's so horrible to kill it. It would be lovely if abortions weren't necessary, but sometimes they are. Making it illegal would not solve the problem.

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I help kids at a crisis center who are parents of drug abuse, the unwanted, or other reasons,

That's great.