Pro-Abort

It's only an operation. No human being is present. Why not operate?

Pro-Life

A person's genetic code begins at conception. The fertilized egg can only develop into a human life. Therefore, a human life worthy of protection.

Pro-Abort

A woman has the absolute right to do what she wants with her own body.

pro-Life

Suicide laws are based on the premise that we belong together and are responsible for each other. We are social beings, so we do not have an absolute right to our bodies.

Pro-Abort

The legal system

Pro-Life

"Legal" does not make it right. Some laws are immoral or contradict higher laws.

Pro-Abort

It is an effective for of contraception.

Pro-Life

Abortion is not contraceptive. Conception has already taken place.

Pro-Abort

Better the child be dead than unwanted.

Pro-Life

Isnt this presumptuous? Let the child grow up and decide on its own. Dont you hate others telling you whats good for you?

Pro_Abort

It's convenient and helps eliminate unwanted pregnancies.

Pro-Life

Fosters irresponsibility. People are accountable for their own actions. There ae other options like adoption.

Pro-Abort

Helps control population.

Pro-Life

So does murder, euthenasia, and suicide. There are other, moral means.

Pro-Abort

Should be okay in cases of rape and incest.

Pro-Life

A tough issue. The infant is not responsible for the original act. Though tragic, we must defend the innocent life. A good end does not justlify evil means. (Getting rid of the baby does not justify why you did it.)

Pro-Abort

The baby may be born retarded or handicapped.

Pro-Life

Is this to say the person has no value?This is a gross form of prejudice against a minority. Why not do the same for anyone who is not fully conscious?

Pro- Abort

It is economical and keeps down the cost of welfare.

Pro-Life

Is money more inportant than a life? There are other ways i.e. sex education, one's own judgement, and elimination of poverty.

Pro-Abort

Pushing a pro-life amendment or law is forcing your religious beliefs on others.

Pro-Life

Don't we (religious) have the right to defend innocent human life as we see fit in a democracy? Many civil rights were unpopular at first.

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Mmm, actually its pro-choice. Biiig difference!

Technically, but I'd imagine most people would read this and understand that the OP means pro-choice.

On that note though, pro-abortion could be understood to mean for the legalization of abortion, which isn't misleading at all. Pro-choice IMO has always been a bit misleading since they don't want the issue of abortion to be put up to a popular vote (i.e. allowing it to be the people's choice), rather they want the choice to have an abortion to be legal. This pro-choice seems especially misleading b/c you could use the pro-choice title for ANYTHING... i.e. for allowing people to choose whether or not to have marijuana, whether or not to pray in school, whether or not to abuse their spouse etc.

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Mmm, actually its pro-choice. Biiig difference!

what if your raped though? that is a completely different concept.. you didn't choose to do it you were forced.? it's a horrible thing to go through.. i've been through it and have two children now.. its a horrifying experience and i didn't choose it it's what you make of it

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No woman should be put through pain unless she expressly embraces it.

She had sex in the first place. Some consider that to be painful, i wouldnt know personally, im a virgin but why have sex if you arent ready for what could happen like getting pregnant catching a disease etc.?

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Crime rates could be lower before the 1960's due to the fact that less crime was reported.

Could be! My point is you can't definitively say "this is an effect of abortion." That's a statistically invalid statement. A very popular one.

Crime rates could be lower before the 1960's due to the fact that less crime was reported.

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wonder if any of you have actually studied that in the early 90's crime began to rapidly decrease. Would you like some insight as to why? Well, abortions were legalized in 1972. In the 1990's those people born from 1972 and up were around the age of young adulthood. Why would the crime rate decrease... well think about who likely got pregnant?

LOL!
B/c this is the only possible explanation?? Not the forensic boom in new technologies? Not all the money spent in crime prevention? Oh and check out violent crime stats, they started dropping in the 80s. (peaked in 1980 and then plummeted, went up a lil and then has been going down ever since.)
When you look at violent crimes for the last 50 years, you'll see that what looks more accurate is we had a crime boom starting in the mid 60s and ending in the early 80s, seeing as the rates before 1960s are lower than they are now.

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Originally posted by chop09:
Those who argue that it's the woman's body and she can do whatever she likes.....need to realize that God created her, and just like he has a purpose for her, he also had a purpose for her unplanned child.

And bible-pushing Christians need to realize that not everyone believes in your god and said god's 'plan' for every person.

Why should the law be tailored to what one specific religion believes?

chop- really what type of diseases?

what's your position on the death penalty?

do you eat meat?

If you look at statistics, they show that women end up with diseases and issues with their bodies AFTER having an abortion. :P

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What I think anti-abortion people fail to realize is that childbirth is intensely painful and also can be dangerous. No woman should be put through pain unless she expressly embraces it.

I don't think any women embrace childbirth. Isn't it a cliche that you see in movies, the mother screaming about how much she hates her boyfriend/husband for putting her in that situation. And women who wanted a natural childbirth screaming for drugs? They do it, but it's not because their embracing the pain. That's over simplifying it.
I think pro-abortion people fail to realize that their's a life besides the mother's that needs to be taken into account.

My parents and I believe in the sanctity of a life. Christians believe that even before we're conceived, God had a plan and a purpose for our lives(pre-destined). So, having an abortion will abruptly end God's purpose and design for a woman's child.
Those who argue that it's the woman's body and she can do whatever she likes.....need to realize that God created her, and just like he has a purpose for her, he also had a purpose for her unplanned child.

There is a simple answer, but people make this subject complicated through religion and their desire to control others beliefs and moral construct based on their own illusions of acceptable conduct.

The fact is abortion is already illegal after a cretin amount of time (when the embryo becomes a fetus-I believe), and the fact is mistakes happen, even when you are careful.
All I’m saying is every option affects the people involved in some way. Abortion affects the parents emotionally, adoption affects both child and parents emotionally and also could create voids in both child and parent. Now keeping the child could cause a number of hardships along with other emotional problems that one could’ve avoided if they had planed the child, ultimately resulting in a poorer quality of life for all involved

I’ll put it like this, would you rather have a child brought into this world parentless and homeless wondering where they came from and ultimately affecting 3 peoples lives instead of just the original two involved. Do you really want to have a child that carries the burden of not knowing why things happened the way they did? Just stay out of peoples business, especially when it’s a sensitive matter like pregnancy.

TAKE NOTE: you must understand that the situations I am imaging are not always the case, and isn’t how every unplanned/aborted/adopted child and family respond to this situation, also I’m not saying an unplanned baby is going to end up drastically affected negatively by any of the options available, a lot of unplanned children end up fine in any of the scenarios. All I’m saying is life is precious and should be analyzed as deeply as possible as to prevent unhappiness and instability in homes where children are being raised, also its always ones own body that they can do with what they want….

It wont let me edit my post, but.

It also shouldnt be used as a form of birth control either.

If you dont want an abortion, tbh, dont get one.


Dont try to force your morals and/or religion on everyone else.


If I feel fine with being a baby killer, then thats just me.

I wonder if any of you have actually studied that in the early 90's crime began to rapidly decrease. Would you like some insight as to why? Well, abortions were legalized in 1972. In the 1990's those people born from 1972 and up were around the age of young adulthood. Why would the crime rate decrease... well think about who likely got pregnant? People who have sex for drugs and money, people who are too stupid to use protection and therefore too stupid to raise a kid, young people who can't even take care of themselves. Do you really want a kid to live in an environment like that.

also my crackhead comment was not uncalled for. it's true. so crackwhore gets pregnant, smokes crack while she's pregnant, then gives birth to a baby addicted to crack who will grow up to be a crack dealer who will shoot some poor family and then get himself thrown in prison costing us taxpayers more money. Abortion saves us money and keeps our streets safer.

As for this adoption crap, well we have enough kids who need homes all over the world. Also you can rant and rant about adopting but a lot of people don't do that, they choose to be bad parents and raise a bad person.

I am alive. A fetus is not. Oh yeah it has a heart beat but so does a person in comatose. I have a life, feti do not. Obviously it is up to me if I want to be pregnant or not. Just like it is up to you to be pregnant or not. If you want to have your baby and give it away or keep it then that's fine nobody should force you to have an abortion. But then you have to look at the other side, you can't make someone not have an abortion. People shouldn't force others to do things that they don't want to do.

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What I think anti-abortion people fail to realize is that childbirth is intensely painful and also can be dangerous. No woman should be put through pain unless she expressly embraces it.

I don't think any women embrace childbirth. Isn't it a cliche that you see in movies, the mother screaming about how much she hates her boyfriend/husband for putting her in that situation. And women who wanted a natural childbirth screaming for drugs? They do it, but it's not because their embracing the pain. That's over simplifying it.
I think pro-abortion people fail to realize that their's a life besides the mother's that needs to be taken into account.

Abortion is wrong! Itd actually been proven thats its a life you are terminating!
IF YOU DONT WANT A BABY THEN GIVE IT UP FOR ADOPTION!!!!

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Originally posted by Wolfie:
Duh abortions lower crime rate. Now we aren't forcing crackheads to raise future crackheads.

That was uncalled for.

What I think anti-abortion people fail to realize is that childbirth is intensely painful and also can be dangerous. No woman should be put through pain unless she expressly embraces it.