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Picture of aprildiamonds
Registered: November 09, 2006
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It's National AIDS Awaress Day. What is your view regarding AIDS and those afflicted with it?
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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AIDS, like any other disease, is an equal opportunity killer. The only way to be completely safe is to not have sex. Ever.

Condoms, though, are very effective at preventing the transmission of HIV. It's a big virus, and too big to travel through the latex of a condom, contrary to what Jack Chick would have you believe...


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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I am a heterosexual


Doesn't mean a thing. The only way to be safe is if you are non-sexually active, use proper protection, and make sure you are in a monogamous relationship with a (in your case) woman who is also monogamous and does not participate in risky behavior.


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Is there anyone who is not "aware" of AIDS?

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better kill AIDS before AIDS kill you
AIDS will not kill me because I am a heterosexual non-drug user who will not be going to jail or receiving tattoos.


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Registered: March 20, 2008
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Originally posted by Saturnmoth007:
people are intolerably stupid, and they would spread AIDS by having sex if no one told them that that is how the disease was spread. That is what i am saying clpo. Perhaps i did not make that clear. I dont mean we should stand here and tell them who to have sex with, but i mean educate them, which in effect is treating them differently.


I feel kind of stupid because this was all posted SOO long ago, but I don't care. Here is my tidbit. I agree with the above comment because of something that happened in my school today. We have daily trivia questions and todays was, paraphrased,'What does HIV stand for?' People in schools like mine, even if its middle school, should be taught these things. Yes we get those sex speeches and abstinance lectures, but the thing about it is that if people stop having sex the human race is so completly doomed. Sometimes YOU don't even know if you have the disease, so whats to think that everyone will it should be isolated? Check everyone as they leave the hospital and then spend millions of dollars for the tests every person's doctor's appointments JUST to SEE if MAYBE you MIGHT have it. And if you do , you'll be shipped off to a convent in a squeaky clean facility so you dn't ever get sick. People just need to be aware of the fact that its not the person's fault. If they got it from their mother, or a partner who didn't know, or any circumstance whatsoever, its not their fault.


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Registered: October 23, 2007
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I think people should be more aware of AIDS. Smile


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Registered: July 03, 2007
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WHEN HAVE YOU HEARD HOW BAD AIDS IS IN INDIA?

unfortunatly, probably never. AIDS in India (in most studies) are WORSE than AIDS in Africa. So much is being done to help decrease the deaths and new cases of AIDS in Africa (which, don't get me wrong, is GREAT!) but very very very little is being done to help India! When my friend and i found out how bad this was, we decided to try to make a change. we designed leather bracelets with the phrase "just a small dream" in Indian to be branded onto the leather. We have ALMOST all the tools to make them, and we are waiting for the last details to be done. PLEASE LOOK US UP OR EMAIL US, if you are interested in buying one. Even if you just want to see what the bracelet will look like. we havent come up with a price yet, but it will probably be between $5-15. ALL OF THE PROFIT WILL GO TO HELP INDIA AND ITS FIGHT WITH AIDS! This will be an expensive project, so if you are interested in donating money for our supplies, email or contact us please! fightaidsindia@gmailcom


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Registered: October 11, 2006
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better kill AIDS before AIDS kill you Roll Eyes


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Registered: February 25, 2007
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I think that Aids is a very deadly disease that is cascading out of control. Researchers do not know how to cure anybody with it. Just ho to give them a longer life. Hurry up and help scientists find a cure.


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Registered: October 11, 2006
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aids a very thing !!!! i hate this !!!!it kills people!!!


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Registered: September 06, 2005
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Yeah, you can't stop teenagers from havin' premarital sex. I recently found out that a lot of kids in my classes drink and then get really whorey and end up jumping all over the guys, whom of course, will take it and bang it, even though, they don't...they just fool around...nakedly.
To my point, we can't stop them from having sex but we can stop the STD's, STI's, abortions and all if we just give them some condoms and teach them how to use them!


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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why, ever since the condom was introduced into classrooms have the birth rates double in unmarried teens?


Because they aren't taught how to correctly use them. You don't give someone a condom and expect them to know how to put it on. That's like giving a person chopsticks and expecting them to eat rice with them. Tools are useless without knowledge of their use.

Would you rather we all teach them abstinence only and expect it to work? Kids will have sex. That's a fact of life. It's better to arm them with contraceptives and the knowledge of how to properly use them than tell them "sex is bad" and hope they listen.

It's kind of like putting armor on a knight in medieval times. You could just give him a shirt and a stick and hope he doesn't piss anyone off, or you could put on a full suit of armor and teach him to use a sword so he'll be protected no matter what.

In short, abstinence is a nice thought, but utterly impossible to hope for. I'm sure you've heard of a recent survey that found that 9 out of 10 Americans have had premarital sex. If we couldn't trust our grandparents to keep their pants on when they were teenagers, how do you expect today's teens to do so?

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teach kids that sex before marraige shouldn't be practiced...It is irresponsible and frankly teenagers don't need sex in order to live they have many more things they need to worry about than having sex at that age.


Why? Why shouldn't sex before marriage be practiced? Why do you assume it's always irresponsible? True, most teenagers have casual, unprotected sex just because they want the pleasure. But not all of us do that. Some of us (myself included) are smart about it. For instance, I practice safe sex in a monogamous relationship. I don't do it because everyone else does it. I can't really explain why I do it. For me, it's more personal. Then again, I'm not your average horny teenager. I've actually stayed in a relationship for more than two months (more like nine) without getting busy in the back seat of a car, which is essentially what everyone else did.

Marriage is nothing special. Quite a lot of marriages end in divorce, which kind of negates the whole "save yourself for the one you'll be with forever" sentiment. I figure if you're determined to make a relationship work and you understand that sex is something not taken lightly, it doesn't matter if you're married to not. In short, I do think sex is something special that should only be between two people who love each other, but that doesn't necessarily mean they need to be married.


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Registered: December 13, 2006
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It is irresponsible and frankly teenagers don't need sex in order to live they have many more things they need to worry about than having sex at that age.


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Registered: December 13, 2006
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Then why, ever since the condom was introduced into classrooms have the birth rates double in unmarried teens? Instead of Dad telling little johnny to keep his peter in his pants he has the school hand out codoms to his son and tell him "well...$hit, you're gonna do it anyway might as well give you something to wrap it up with." Thats bull, contraceptives for young teens have only increased bastard children. And the plan parenthood bull$shit is even worse how they keep everything confidential from parents. These kids are still minors and they can buy all the birthcontrol they want and their paretns won't have a damn clue that their daughter is the village bicycle or thier son has every STD known to man. I don't trust teenagers because they don't trust themselves. Condoms should be used solely for adults for purposes of preventing disease spreading and family planning. How do you prevent teens from getting contraceptives in this case? Put a prescriction on condoms and all other contraceptives and teach kids that sex before marraige shouldn't be practiced.


"The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life." Theodore Roosevelt
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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"We" don't have AIDS. "They" do. It's a lot easier than saying "HIV-positive humanoids," or whatever would make it sound less divisive. Pronouns were invented for a reason.

Anyways, we've essentially decided that education is the key. Which points to an extensive reworking of sex education classes so they don't say "don't have sex" and spend the rest of the year on how to avoid having sex until you're 52 and married. Learning about condoms is a start. HIV (the virus for those of you unversed in acronyms) is a very large virus. Using a condom correctly is the first step in preventing transmission of said virus, since the tiny holes in latex are too small for HIV to fit through. There is still a possibility of infection, but condom use is a start. Educate people about it. There's no better method of controlling the spread of AIDS.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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"Them." "They." We are of the same exact human race, you know. Every human carries 99.9% of the same DNA. "They" just happened to catch a STI. (Sorry if that sounds picky and rather boorish, but the whole use of 3rd person pronouns to disdainfully acknowledge [not saying that you were saying it disdainfully] has always kind of irked me.)

The heart disease thing: Also, the thing with heart disease is it's not communicable, through semen or vaginal fluids or blood and whatnot. The thing with HIV/AIDS is it is preventable even if its not treatable.

The media's attention needs to be on a problem like this. HIV/AIDS carries a stigma that often times shadows the facts that need to be brought to the public's attention so that the "intolerably stupid" people (including you and me) will take the precautions needed to protect themselves from such a disease.


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Registered: February 27, 2003
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So just because we haven't yet found a cure for this then that means it's less worthy of attention? I'm sorry but I'm not getting any of your logic hear. I'm not saying that people with AIDS should get special treatment, I'm saying they should get the treatment they need and deserve the same as everyone else who is sick should get treatment.


no im not saying we should ignore it because there is no treatment for it. But do you think it is fair that heart disease kills far more people than AIDS in the US, and all anyone can talk about is how bad AIDS is?

The key part of that phrase is "in the US." I, however, feel that seeing as AIDS is a number one killer in the world, it should be treated as such. But I see your point now, AIDS does get a lot more attention. But heart disease and the like are also getting medical and scientific attention, if not media attention.


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So just because we haven't yet found a cure for this then that means it's less worthy of attention? I'm sorry but I'm not getting any of your logic hear. I'm not saying that people with AIDS should get special treatment, I'm saying they should get the treatment they need and deserve the same as everyone else who is sick should get treatment.


no im not saying we should ignore it because there is no treatment for it. But do you think it is fair that heart disease kills far more people than AIDS in the US, and all anyone can talk about is how bad AIDS is?


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people are intolerably stupid, and they would spread AIDS by having sex if no one told them that that is how the disease was spread. That is what i am saying clpo. Perhaps i did not make that clear. I dont mean we should stand here and tell them who to have sex with, but i mean educate them, which in effect is treating them differently.


"No, this trick won't work...How on earth are you ever going to explain in terms of chemistry and physics so important a biological phenomenon as first love?" - Albert Einstein
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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m just saying you cant let them go out and have sex with whoever they want.


How were you planning on enforcing this? People with AIDS should not be treated any worse than "normal" people. Instead, they should be taught everything they need to know about their disease so they make the decision not to spread it. You can't make that decision for them.

Also, people with AIDS should receive special treatment. You know why? Because when you have AIDS, you're susceptible to diseases that people don't normally get. You could die from the common cold if you have severe AIDS. These people need help bolstering their failing immune systems. No one else generally needs that kind of help, which is why it's special treatment. Necessary special treatment, I'd even say.


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