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Registered: August 15, 2004
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The enzyme reverse transcriptase is what keeps the virus replicating(HIV) to stop it is so expensive... but has anyone considered trying soil as a cure? It could work... any suggestions?
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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cell theory.
Scientists are working to trash the cell theory. Fungi don't have cells either And if you really want to get rid of the disease, you are really going to have to get rid of those with it. It's the bottom line, whether it is that important or not. If all those with the disease die, then the disease dies too. It sounds harsh, but it is the only option if humanity is entertaining the idea of an AIDS free world.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: August 15, 2004
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Killing people or let's just say organisms with AIDS won't work. Viruses are capable of being anywhere. They also have the ability to change their RNA
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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I'm aware that a virus cannot be cured, at least not in the way a bacterial illness can be. Virues aren't even technically alive, at least no going by cell theory. Cell theory states that all living things are made up of cells, and virues aren't a full cell, which is why they need a host cell to reproduce. As I said before, the AIDS virus isn't harmful until it infects the immune system, and it needs to mutate in order to do that (the virus is too large to get through a cell membrane and has to get in through active transport via receptor proteins); therefore if it could be stopped from mutating, it wouldn't be virulent.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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I believe you meant inoculation. But anyway, though "cures" as the term is said, may not be possible, it is still possible to find something that would repress the virus and boost T-cell counts to maintain a healthy lifestyle and normal life expectancy.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Originally posted by finn620:
Killing all humans with AIDS wouldn't even work anyway because humans originally got it from another species, so you'd have to go on killing any kind of animal that carries it. How far would you want to go?
Not really. It was a one time thibng, a fluke, like spontaneous generation. Am I the only person who understands you cannot cure a virus? You can annoculate for a virus, but not cure it, and we would be hard pressed to do that for this certain disease.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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The number isnt important to me and I dont even just mean people. The AIDS virus needs to be eliminated completely and the only way to do that is to eliminate every host of the virus.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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Killing all humans with AIDS wouldn't even work anyway because humans originally got it from another species, so you'd have to go on killing any kind of animal that carries it. How far would you want to go?
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Well, you're done then. I have been following the conversation-I was the one you were talking with, remember?
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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are you kidding me? follow the conversation. I am done trying with this.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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About what? I didn't know-I was taking a guess. See, now you aren't making much sense.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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mmhmmm but you knew exactly what i meant. It takes two to communicate and you knew exatcly what i ment.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Most people with AIDS do know about it. By then they are completely symptom inflicted, but HIV can be symptom-free in the body for up to 5 or more years. And there is a difference.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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Im not confusing them I am just talking about both.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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All right then. Well, it's fairly obvious you're confusing HIV and AIDS. Also, I'd like proof that if every human with AIDS and/or HIV, it would not exist.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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And you know what. It's not like my idea would ever materialize anyway. I was just trying to let my oppinion be known. I don't even care to convince you. So please. Just accept it as my oppinion, drastic but effective.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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I know that. I was talking about it assuming you are American. If you check a little further back on this and the Face off version, you'll see I know more about this topic than the average teen. I was saying to not engage in those activities yourself.
I dont, and i dont have AIDS. If you believe out society is "an educated society, could refrain from the activities that lead to HIV and AIDS." than you dont know as much as you say. 1. Many people (IN AMERICA) with AIDS dont know they have it 2. Some people (IN AMERICA) with AIDS dont care about spreading it 3. There are people (IN AMERICA) that dont consider AIDS to be a problem that is not an educated society. If it was, it would have stopped spreading years ago. quote:
There is always the potential of it resurfacing, even with every host eliminated.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Of course, I know that. I was talking about it assuming you are American. If you check a little further back on this and the Face off version, you'll see I know more about this topic than the average teen. I was saying to not engage in those activities yourself. In order to do that, there would need to be every single human being eliminated. There is always the potential of it resurfacing, even with every host eliminated. Therefore, it's an invalid solution.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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Why doesn't it exist? I would think it does.
Because the countries that have the biggest problems with AIDS are third world countries without the slightest education or opprotunities for communication. The countries that do have ample access to education find themselves still having to deal with AIDS spreading quickly due to irresponsibility and the resiliance of the HIV virus. quote:
There is absolutely no guarantee that killing over 40 million people would ensure the elimination of the virus.
The number isnt important to me and I dont even just mean people. The AIDS virus needs to be eliminated completely and the only way to do that is to eliminate every host of the virus. |
Registered: June 02, 2004
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Why doesn't it exist? I would think it does. There is absolutely no guarantee that killing over 40 million people would ensure the elimination of the virus.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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