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Registered: December 19, 2002
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quote: Or, as an educated society, could refrain from the activities that lead to HIV and AIDS.
O, but that society doesnt exist. This is a golbal epidemic. quote: We don't need to kill those that are already infected in order to prevent our own infection.
But if we want to eliminate the virus we do. quote: That's the poor and despisable way out of it.
I can see two sides of things and I understand why you arent ready for this solution. That is the whole reason I didnt just come out and say it originally.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Or, as an educated society, could refrain from the activities that lead to HIV and AIDS. We don't need to kill those that are already infected in order to prevent our own infection. That's the poor and despisable way out of it. We could just quarantine areas of high infection instead. And not even create concentration camp-like qualities.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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id like to write a story but i dont know where to start. I guess the begining. It was morning. As the sun spread through a window it found its way to a mans face. The truth is that AIDS has the potential to kill everyone given enough time. I would much rather see the millions that already have it die than everyone who might someday contract it. Jeric this is a quote from you quote: It WOULD solve the aids problem
but yeah, i knew you people wouldnt like my answer that is why i was originally not going to say it.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Wow Jookly. I didn't even consider you actually wanted to kill anyone and everyone with HIV. But now that I know that you do, and along with the Amish article, I know that you don't have JUST a twisted sense of humor, you have a twisted sense of morals as well. Sure, it might solve the problem, yet might is the keyword. It would be an irrational attack on a community. And then we don't even know whether there are people that would carry it and spread it through the population again, not to mention it does also develop on its own, not just from HIV and AIDS positive people. Your 'solution' is unreasonable, immoral, and most importantly, invalid.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 26, 2004
Posts: 74
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No no...the heart of the problem is not the disease, it is irresponsibility for one's actions. If the disease is gone, and we still act the way w do, nature will find a new virus. It WOULD solve the aids problem, but not the REAL problem: ignorance.
"Skittles or die!"
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Registered: December 26, 2004
Posts: 74
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quote: Originally posted by northstar316:
I highly doubt the common cold used to kill people, or we wouldn't have been able to settle areas north of the meditereanean.
Um, are you talking about BEING COLD or HAVING A COLD....because really, a lot of people died from the cold, not just being cold.
"Skittles or die!"
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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if you think it wouldnt solve the problem you are a fool.
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Registered: December 26, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by CelticNewAger: Nah, it's the phenomena I call "chosen ignorance". It's when someone doesn't have to be stupid but they are.
I couldn't agree with you more, CelticNewAger.
"Skittles or die!"
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Registered: December 26, 2004
Posts: 74
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quote: Originally posted by Jookly:
I think we should kill everything that currently has AIDS.
Jookly, your view is completly irrational and immoral and irresponsible. I completly agree, kill everything that has it, then it'll all go away. Then again, that doesn't solve the problem at all.
"Skittles or die!"
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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Ok i will tell you.
I think we should kill everything that currently has AIDS.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
Posts: 3993
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HIV is harmless in humans until it mutates to fit into the receptor proteins in t cells. It has to first infect a macrophage and mutate until it's capable of doing actual harm, so if there was a way to either prevent the mutation or keep it from infecting the macrophage that could work, but there probably isn't a way to prevent that, as mutations occur from errors.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: January 16, 2004
Posts: 3993
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Evidently no one is elaborating on what we think he/you meant as those who got the idea don't want to mention it because it's sick. However, if Jookly were to actually explain what he meant it would clear things up.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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Because it is what i believe. Plus it answers the whole question of this post. And I didnt even say it you just knew what I meant, probably because it is the obvious solution.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8337
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The whole thing is believed to be "in the genes". Species of big cats having immunities would only further the evidence of such a claim. I'm not necessarily refuting it, though. Drug cocktails are BS. Check into statin drugs... they're proving more effective so far, with way less side effects.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Euterpe, it's that the vaccine gives people the inclination to still participate in habits that led to the initial infection-it is believed that this will create mutations of HIV and AIDS. Jookly, still, why did you have to post it in the first place? I mean, I know that people get compelled, but . . . come on.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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Some species of big cats have an immunity to feline HIV/AIDS. I have no idea how different this is from the human version, but if we could find out what causes the immunity, that could be helpful in finding a cure. People might be careless if a cure was found, but at least we'd have treatment that doesn't involve drug cocktails.
L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: December 19, 2002
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quote: That's horrible, Jookly.
Yeah, but so very true.
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Registered: September 29, 2004
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I see that some are noting "just a vaccine" for AIDS but, isn't a vaccine better than a cure? A vaccine can prevent the virus, which prevents generations from acquiring it. A cure means you would have to suffer through the illness before being cured. ::Shrugs.:: I still don't think, even if a vaccine/cure was possible, the government would pass it around. It kills millions every year; it's natural (or unnatural, depending on how you got it) population control. I know that sounds horrible, but Magic Johnson has had AIDS for years, and he traveled to India (or another eastern country, I'm not positive) and he's incredibly healthy for someone with AIDS and HIV positive. I don't know. I think Americans should be more careful because we have the most available information on AIDS and how to prevent it. We're just ignorant and careless.
A lo hecho, pecho.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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That's horrible, Jookly.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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I know how to cure aids but you guys will not like the truth.
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