Puppies and rainbows? I am simply saying that most people find a way to work around it since it is ever present in their lives. And, to make a point, I never said anything about not letting them die. I am just against helping them die.

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Eventually, though, a person has to come to terms with what one has.

Or you'll most likely be in so much pain and agony due to the liquefying of all your internal organs you can't even think like a rational human being. You'd be in so much pain, wouldn't even know what that sentence means.

You really need to drop this puppies and rainbows bullshit. Sometimes people are so sick and are in so much pain and can not be cured, that letting them die is the nicest thing we can do for them.

You know, my whole life would be different, had I a disease that is long term or incurable. But I don't know how I would react. Eventually, though, a person has to come to terms with what one has.

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I agree with onfire4God that no one is given more than he or she can handle. How one approaches what one is given is a different story.

I bet if you had Ebola you'd be singing a different tune.

I agree with onfire4God that no one is given more than he or she can handle. How one approaches what one is given is a different story. If something appears to be impossible, it may just be because that person is reacting to it in a panicked manner. NOT because the task or the situation is too much. It's just the perception that one has of that certain situation.

True...to a point. There's a lot in life that is more than one person can handle all on their own. That's why it's important to reach out to other people. You can take on a lot more if you've got help.

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we are never dished out more than we can handle.

That is a bloody lie...

the thing is...in life no one as no one. everyone has someone, it is just whether or not that person chooses to turn to their someone to help them NOT kill themselves.

choices are being made everyday whether one should kill themselves, be assisted in killing themselves, or staying alive to find out how life turns out.

I speak for no one but myself when I say, " i've been there. I have had to make the desision whether to live or commit suicide. It isn't easy, BUT it is possible to get threw the rough patches in life.

It is like anything else worth doing. If it is too easy it is pointless, too hard it is depressing, but I know for a fact that we are never dished out more than we can handle.

I think that when a person is already a veggie, then it isn't assisted suiside anymore. It then turns into mercy killing.

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If they don't have anyone, then why would they be asking you for help?

You don't need to be a good friend to inject cyanide into someone's neck.

Now, I don't like suicide at all and assisted suicide seems even worse. You're weak if you think you can't go through life and even weaker if you can't even kill yourself without any help.

The only assisted suicide I can condone is the kind that occurs when a person is going to die anyways and just wants the process to hurry along. Examples: someone is in great pain due to a terminal disease, a person loses all higher brain functions and is simply a vegetable. Those I can understand. Suicide because you just can't stand life any more...no. I don't like quitters.

I believe in mercy killing, when the person is going to be a veggie anyway. But I am not sure about actually helping them kill themselves while they are mentally and phsically fit.

If they don't have anyone, then why would they be asking you for help? Be there for that person, be the difference in his or her life. I have been in that situation, and had someone helped me kill myself, I could not have touched as many people as I have to this day. No matter how insignificant somebody feels, every life makes a difference in another's. Even without knowing it.

Of course there are still days where I get really depressed and wonder whether any of life is worth it.

Killing someone, even if they beg you to do it, is stupid. Human life, any life, should be valued. Reach out to hurting people, you never know what a difference you might make.

What if they don't have anyone?

I know this is going to sound terrible, but why...why help someone die? Why help someone kill themselves for what they think is best for them? Have you not noticed people are usually idiots nine times out of ten? why help someone hurt the people they love or the people that love them? It just doesn't make sense, to help someone die and help someone hurt those around them? why commit suicide--assisted or not? Why kill ourself if we are made in the image of God. And if one feels it is okay to kill themself because no one cares--God does. I personally know what it is like to WANT to die, but think of all the people that you love and that love you that you will leave behind.

John 3:16
Psalm 139
Joshua 23:19

Don't know what these verses are...read them in the Holy Bible--you may learn something new.

just a question to pose. if a person is in extreme pain, doesn't that make that person a little incapacitated to make life and death decisions? if you want to make it so a person is actually choosing to die wouldn't it need to be before the person is ill?

I woulnd not help someone if they wanted to kill themselves. If anything I would try and talk them out of doing it. I would not want anyone to help me either. If i did everommited suicied I would do it alone.

Just a ? for y'all...I asked this to the girl I was debating and she never really gave me a straight-up answer...

A lot of people support euthanasia or PAS because of "death with dignity". How can you justify this when family members are advised to not be present during certain types of deaths because with lethal injections, a patient with have violent convulsions and spasms before dying?

Most patients can be treated with enough pain medication in order to remove them from pain for the remainder of their lives. If PAS or euthanasia is legalized, pain meds advancements would decrease because there would be fewer people needing them, this would hurt people who do not choose to die.

Also, in Oregon, the only place they currently have PAS legalized, they cut health coverage for poor residents after the legalization. This forces more patients to choose death because of the extreme financial burden to the family.

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Ok so i wanted to know your opionions on this. Would you help someone kill themselves if they were in al whole lot of pain and they wanted to die? Or if you were in that situation would you want to have someone help you commit suicide?

Depending on what kind of pain that they were in depends on my given answer. If the "pain" that they are experiencing is due to an illness/disease and they feel like it is their time to go than possibly I would, but only to stop them from having to suffer another minute in this hellhole of a world. But if they are looking for a cop out or an easy way out of life because it is getting to hard or they just don't want to deal with life anymore, than no I wouldn't. But that is just me. If I were in that situation, I probably wouldn't need someone to help me. I would just do it myself because it would make everything a little less complexe for everyone and I wouldn't want to scar someone for life for my indescrepincies(sp).

I think that people should have a right to doctor assisted sucicide, but I wouldn't help someone kill themselves as I'm not a doctor and if things went wrong, the person might suffer before they die. I probably wouldn't be able to help someone kill themselves anyway. It should be done by a doctor, except in extreme situations.