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Picture of kot1977
Registered: January 07, 2005
Posts: 16
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My friend spent 2 years in the hospital; he could not bear it and at last he lost hope and to the doctor to take his life through a document and family approval. Does this really work?is that suicide?
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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medically , there is an oulet you know . Imean you can write in your will that you dont want to be put on machines and stuff an they have to obey legally you are through . But the thing is you dont feel your best when you are sic so maybe yours is just a desperate call and not really a death wish.


I'll sleep when im dead .
Picture of Em10190
Registered: January 02, 2005
Posts: 29
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I wouldnt help the person relieve their pain by helping them to kill themselves, but I would talk to them, be a friend, and try to help them solve their problems. Sometimes all people need is someone to talk to...


"We can do no great things, only small things with great love." -Mother Theresa
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Registered: January 02, 2005
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I wouldnt try to help the person by helping them committ suicide, but I would try to talk to them or try to get them some help. I'd try to be a friend and help them to solve their problem. All someone might need is just someone to talk to or relate to...


"We can do no great things, only small things with great love." -Mother Theresa
Picture of yogore
Registered: February 02, 2004
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Ok listen up no one shouldn't try to kill themselves.
You used a double negative. Because of that, this statement says "everyone should try to kill themselves."


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Picture of mizindy
Registered: January 03, 2005
Posts: 3
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to learn about p.a.s. go to :
http://eduserv.hscer.washington.edu/bioethics/topics/pas.html


" talking to my shadow , advised me not to worry said i should plant my tree and let it rise out of the fury " " apears more clear in its simplest form nobody sees tears when you standin in the storm " (C)
Picture of sweetiepie20
Registered: December 20, 2004
Posts: 943
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No it isn't heartless, not if they are practically on their knees, begging you to help them.


I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
Picture of litllekrystal
Registered: December 31, 2004
Posts: 11
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Ok listen up no one shouldn't try to kill themselves. Life is a valuable thing that God gave us so if you know someone that wants to die or is trying to kill themselves don't Help Them try to Help tham not to...

Life is Love no matter if its family, friends or people you just know!
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Sweet~Little~Girl
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Registered: May 06, 2003
Posts: 958
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"Can anyone honestly argue that physician-assisted suicide will limit itself to voluntary candidates in an era of ruthless medical cost-efficiency? (Chaput)"

Many people use the Netherlands as an example of "euthanasia gone wrong". In a sense it has, but none of the guidelines are followed. You have to consult more than 2 doctors, make sure the patient is mentally stable, have a living will, etc. These laws have been in place in Oregon for years now, and there has been no evidence of such a "slippery slope".

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A leading euthanasia activist actually developed a way for a human to be killed by a computer so that doctors would be less involved in the actual killing of the patient.

PAS does not require the doctor to kill a patient, whatsoever. You are thinking of active euthanasia.

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The name for euthanasia has changed multiple time to make it seem more acceptable; it has had the names of "physician-assisted suicide", assisted suicide", "deliverance", "mercy killing" and finally, "aid in dying".

PAS is a very different thing that euthanasia, and it is not a name for euthanasia to make it more acceptable. It is a name for a very different scenario than any of the three types of euthanasia.

If you're debating PAS, I highly recommend getting your definitions straight because your arguments will do you no good when you have to use them.


Picture of Jeric
Registered: December 26, 2004
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Hmm...this is a tough one. I'd have to say, that if a person can communicate the want to commit suicide, I think we should respect that and kill them.


"Skittles or die!"
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Registered: October 05, 2002
Posts: 247
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I would want them to do it for me!


*Opinions are like @$$holes...everybody's got one*
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Registered: May 07, 2003
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Oh boy, am debating this and I am supposed to be doing my outline, but I can't resist...

"Can anyone honestly argue that physician-assisted suicide will limit itself to voluntary candidates in an era of ruthless medical cost-efficiency? (Chaput)"

A leading euthanasia activist actually developed a way for a human to be killed by a computer so that doctors would be less involved in the actual killing of the patient.

"If drugs were used for the euthanasia death, family members should be warned that they may wish ot leave the room when the patient is being killed since the death may be very unpleasant to observe. (Lethal injections often cause violent convulsions and muscle spasms.)"(International Anti-Euthanasia Task Force).

The name for euthanasia has changed multiple time to make it seem more acceptable; it has had the names of "physician-assisted suicide", assisted suicide", "deliverance", "mercy killing" and finally, "aid in dying". "If a public policy has to be promoted with euphemisms, that may be because the use of accurate descriptive language would demonstrate that the policy is misguided" (Landau).

Just some information I am including in my outline...If anyone has any arguements (non-religious, as you will notice all of mine have been [pretty good for such a values-based girl Wink]) I would love to hear them, it would help me to prepare for the questions section of my debate...


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead **Vice President of the ITGHMC** http://tinyurl.com/393qnr
Picture of Ikki14Reed
Registered: August 17, 2001
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Hydrok, I understood. I just didn't comment cause I've heard that joke so many times.


While waiting for the promised "best four years of [my] life" (Various People), I found YouthNoise. http://tinyurl.com/2kbx5p
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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ok no one got it, or it wasnt funny oh well... tough crowd.


euthinasia
Youth In Asia
Children In China


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Picture of AnnoyedBigSis
Registered: December 31, 2004
Posts: 24
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I think that it really depends.


Vegetarians eat vegetables. I'm a humanitarian
Picture of northstar316
Registered: October 06, 2004
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Jesus Christ, we can't even DIE when we want to. Talk about going gracefully, nobody will see me in diapers when I am 109. I will hurl myself down the stairs first. But don't worry about me, WJ, god couldn't take me away yet.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
Picture of Aguagon
Registered: March 08, 2004
Posts: 1681
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Originally posted by rito:
I'm curious, what do you think about involuntary euthanasia?

I'm against it. I believe a person's life should only be taken in this manner if they expressly stated beforehand that they would desire to have their life taken in such a situation.

And I love your signature.


And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
Picture of rito
Registered: May 06, 2003
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First of all, I think everyone reserves the right to take their own life, no matter what the government says.

I'm curious, what do you think about involuntary euthanasia?


Picture of sweetiepie20
Registered: December 20, 2004
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Well it would sorta be murder...
but i don't think of it that way.


I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
Picture of Aguagon
Registered: March 08, 2004
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First of all, I think everyone reserves the right to take their own life, no matter what the government says.

As for assisted suicide: I certainly don't think it should be against the law. If a person can prove that they killed another person by that person's own will, they should not be held responsible for murder. However, I personally could never kill someone unless they were both incapable of killing themselves and suffering from a long-term pain (mental or physical) from which recovery looked extremely unlikely.


And then, as the books were told, Fina replied: "A can of worms, my dear friend? What has this to do with reason?"
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