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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 33
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I agree with northstar316, although it is overwhelmingly discriminative, the only feasible solution is to separate the people with HIV from the rest of the population. Why? Because there is no possible vaccine, because a lot of religions do not embrace the use of condoms, and, lets face it, almost no one would submit to abstinence.
To Live with Fear is Not to Live at All
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Registered: September 22, 2004
Posts: 889
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Jamaica, get off Celtic's back about sh*t. Give her a break, you make her seem like such a bad person.
"Take risks and never regret them."
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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Yeah, but she has a point: you get it, it's a death sentence. It is better not to taunt the devil, (or what's the cliche)
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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Just guessing from what VoA has already said, he/she will be abstinent for the rest of his/her life.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: July 30, 2004
Posts: 203
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VoA, it's not just self control that's the issue here. People that get into accidents and need blood transfusions get AIDS (or used to, anyway) and I'm pretty damn sure that the accidents weren't caused by a lack of self-control. And because it is a HUGE problem, and becoming larger and larger every day, it could be everywhere, I'm thinking maybe about 1 in 20 could be infected within a year (just making a guess based on how many people live in America and the fact that several thousand people get infected every day) And let's not forget that, since we are the "richest most powerful country in the world yadda yadda yadda" it is our duty to, instead of launching silly wars for fossil fuels, to restore our true glory as a nation by being at the forefront of the fight against AIDS. Tox, ToeTrench, guys, come on! I know that you have really firm beliefs, but something's telling me that you probably wouldn't be like "Oh I have AIDS I'm going to die so someone else can have the treatment". I would hope you kick and scream a bit more than that. (Same thing with cancer, but that isn't really the issue here) HIV/AIDS is a virus. It mutates very frequently. This is what we know. It can't mutate so fast that it becomes invulnerable to anything we'd try throwing at it. Also, there already is a "cure" for HIV. If one starts taking AZT drugs (really nasty things but they work very efficiently) within about 48 hours of a possible exposure, it can stop the virus from spreading and ruining things. This is what we know. Now how do we choose to fight it?
Just remember I'm human, too.
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Registered: February 27, 2004
Posts: 193
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quote: Originally posted by activistista: VoiceofAmerica: oh how wrong you are indeed! Of course HIV/AIDS is vital for the government to be involved in! Its a worldwide EPEDEMIC! Billions upon Billions of people are affected by this, so it is the government's problem. If the government didn't spend money on helping this cause it would just spread and spread until we would all have this terrile disease. I suggest reading up on the matter.
AIDS/HIV for the most part is a disease that is spread by personal choices, and unless people devlop a little self-control AIDS is going to spread, and its going to spread not because it is the governments fault, but because the people keep making choices in thier lifestyle that is dangerous to thier health, and as a result of the fact that it comes about by choices of the people, they and not the government should be responsible for AIDS.
"End Overpopulation! Support Socialized Medicine" - protestwarrior.com
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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The only problem there is nothing anybody can do, as long as it respects the rights of individuals.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: August 17, 2004
Posts: 160
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VoiceofAmerica: oh how wrong you are indeed! Of course HIV/AIDS is vital for the government to be involved in! Its a worldwide EPEDEMIC! Billions upon Billions of people are affected by this, so it is the government's problem. If the government didn't spend money on helping this cause it would just spread and spread until we would all have this terrile disease. I suggest reading up on the matter.
Equality and Justice for all
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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quote: you're disgusting celtic... no wonder why you're so hot....you probably seduce all men.. but anyway, i wont ever let you near 20 feet of my boyfriend or fiancee or whatever....Coz know what???? You're the most disgusting person i have ever known!
Jamaica, are you gonna write a board about me just like you did for DWM??? And, hunny, your fiancé would come to me. See, I am usually not this evil, but you deserve it.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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so...if there was a cure for AIDS, and you contracted the disease, then you would refuse to get the cure...? That doesn't sound very smart to me. I would sell my soul for that cure if it existed and I had AIDs.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: September 11, 2004
Posts: 150
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quote: Oh, and a personalized message to ToeTrench: You already sound like you don't know very much about English, let alone Science. And if you are discouraging finding the cure-which I'm almost 100% positive you are-shame on you.
Put your hands together, string bean. Alrighty. Lets get this settled. Now, I can see your side of the story. I mean, come on, who doesn't want a free cure? Me. Now, how can you say "shame on you" when you're not even grasping the jist of what I said, let alone having an open mind about it. It's all in perception. I see how your side, but your brain seems to be constipated as to understandsing my view on the cure for aids. I, myself, am against a cure for aids. As in, I would not want to be cured if I had aids. I wouldnt take the right to be cured away from someone else. Pushing your views on someone else is ****ed up. I firmly believe if you get some sort of disease/virus it was meant to happen and you should not alter it. As for your insulting me, I dont give a ****. It's your opinion. If you chose not to take the time to slightly understand me or the quote by Zappa, I pity you. Oh, and I aint sorry for me terrible england skills. (as for the constipated brain, get some beano, honey. And FAST!) PEACE OUT MAN! 
"Drop out of school before your mind rots from our mediocre educational system" Frank Zappa
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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You must really not get out a lot to think she is the most disgusting person in the world. Yeah, but about AIDS, there seems there will never be a cure for it, because it can mutate in seconds to become immune to any vaccine. Since it is a virus, there is no way that there could be a cure once one has it, so it would still be a death warrant. I still think the deportation thing is the only way to go if we want to eradicate the disease entirely in this nation. Question: is the disease only in the blood? If so, changing all new blood into a person (if that is possible) could physically remove the disease from the body, right? If that is not possible, could there be a straining system to clean the blood in the future? That could save a lot of lives.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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you're disgusting celtic... no wonder why you're so hot....you probably seduce all men.. but anyway, i wont ever let you near 20 feet of my boyfriend or fiancee or whatever....Coz know what???? You're the most disgusting person i have ever known! 
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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[QUOTE] But there's something you teens have overlooked or choose to overlook... SEX is for procreation as well as pleasure and intimacy... For those of you under 18 and those who have had sex already before marriage, you have ignored the first meaning about sex.... [QUOTE] You're absolutely right! You are so superior to us plebians, you should tell us what to do! There is one little thing you overlooked, or chose to overlook, though. That is that we, of a lower race of people, ie, teens, do not want to get pregnant.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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yes, I am so damn hot!!!! Ahhhhh.... I will seduce your fiancé when you have one!!!!!! And I will give him the best bj ever!!!! Omg he will sooo dump you after he has ME!!!!  Yes, you moron, I know I don't have it. There's an invention called the blood test, you know.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 28, 2003
Posts: 2745
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oh celtic... do you really believe you dont have it??? Coz we have mircobiology you know, and in case you dont know, AIDS is asymptomatic most of the time which means that the person who has it may not know she or he has it coz it doesnt produce any symptoms at all... Plus,our teacher said that this is a false reassurance since if a person doesnt know he or she has AIDS, thenm that person has nothing to worry about which is wrong. If you are having sex before you are even married, you must be aware... And oh, our teacher is a professional doctor and he knows stuff about everything from cancer to the vagina and penis and know something??? Condoms dont work. Its a fact. Yes, it will work, but still, its a false reassurance. He also told us, married people doesnt necessarily have to use the Abstinence thing, but he told us that young people especially people below 18 and also those who arent married yet should not engage in sex as its too risky. But then i guess, you're too hot huh, Celtic thats why you couldnt wait to have sex with your bf..... In fact, most of the teens are having sex.... Whatever really... If thats the case, since sex is the trend these days, maybe people shouldnt wear condoms... coz you know, it will never feel natural if you use those stuff and oh, one question..... Why should you wear condoms anyway??? The answer to that is that so girls will not get pregnant and that you will not catch AIDS. But there's something you teens have overlooked or choose to overlook... SEX is for procreation as well as pleasure and intimacy... For those of you under 18 and those who have had sex already before marriage, you have ignored the first meaning about sex.... But oh well.... if the time comes when you will have symptoms for AIDS or get pregnant, dont ever say i didnt warn you..... 
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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quote: But there is always an exception. For example, if there is one who is transmitting AIDS knowinlgy, I belive that it is the government's responsiblity to send them away to prision
hmmm...I agree, and it might sound kinda phyco, but if all the people with AIDS were separated from those without, like lepers, the epidemic would stop
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: February 27, 2004
Posts: 193
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quote: Originally posted by activistista: What do you think the government should do?
The government doesn't decide what people contract AIDS.This is a problem of personal responsibility, and it is the responsiblity of the people to be sexually responsible. But there is always an exception. For example, if there is one who is transmitting AIDS knowinlgy, I belive that it is the government's responsiblity to send them away to prision
"End Overpopulation! Support Socialized Medicine" - protestwarrior.com
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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If the guy already has AIDS, he is a lost cause, and there is nothing we can do to help him. The only thing he could do is NOT have sex, and try to be a part of the solution, not the problem.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: December 11, 2003
Posts: 9501
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quote: A- Abstincence.... But the guy said that he cant do that since he wants to have sex but he doesnt want to have AiDS either. So, the doctor said,
B - be good/faithful... But then the guy said that that could be possible but he really wants to have sex with several women so the doctor, gave him his last option...
Doesn't work if the guy already has AIDS. I use condoms. And I've nothing.
"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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