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Picture of Maya
Registered: November 27, 2004
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Quoting Bauhaus:

"We’re in one of the richest countries in the world,
but the minimum wage is lower than it was thirty five years ago.
There are homeless people everywhere.
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day.
I was about to give it to him and then I thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol.
And then I thought, that’s what I’m going to use it on.
Why am I judging this poor *******.
People love to judge homeless guys. Like if you give them money they’re just going to waste it.
Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? Save it up and buy a wall unit?
Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a CD rack? He’s homeless.
I walked behind this guy the other day.
A homeless guy asked him for money.
He looks right at the homeless guy and says why don’t you go get a job you bum.
People always say that to homeless guys like it is so easy.
This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants.
Outside his pants. I’m guessing his resume isn’t all up to date.
I’m predicting some problems during the interview process.
I’m pretty sure even McDonalds has a “underwear goes inside the pants” policy.
Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically I’m sure it is on the books. "


he has some interesint ideas, think about it...I certainly agree


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: June 04, 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by Maya:
that comment was for redrepublican


thanks for pointing out hte obvious Roll Eyes


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did i say it was fun? im saying if they can work and they decide not bvecause they are too lazy then they deserve to be homeless. i know it sounds harsh but its true. truth hurts sometimes.


Honorable Senate Majority Leader (R-WI) "Liberals have gone stark-raving mad, yes,"- Euterpe
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that comment was for redrepublican


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: November 27, 2004
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That's real smart: "they deserve whatever they get"...do you really believe that or are you just trying to be funny? Do you think someone actually enjoys living on the street?Someone actually enjoys having to beg? Oh yeah it's real fun, I just can't wait to go out and beg!yuhuuuu!fun! Give me a break alright, don't talk about **** you don't know.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
WJ
Registered: September 19, 2004
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homeless people are slackers and drug addicts who dont work simple!
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Registered: November 19, 2004
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I have to agree with cutebutpsycho. . .I have had friends that were homeless. . .they were homeless because of decisions that they had made in life and often took advantage of me because my friends are both my weakness and strength and I have trouble saying no to them. But at the same time. . .I have given a dollar to a homeless person in front of seven eleven and he followed me inside and we stood in line together waiting to get coffee. So it really depends on the person.


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Registered: November 26, 2004
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To be honest i think it depends on the person, it's not really fair to put everyone in one group b/c we're all different whether we're homeless or not.I mean some pple had a bad home life so they left and went out on the streets by choice, where others couldn't get a job so their home was taken away from them, and still more could be drug addicts or alcoholics who can't afford help or anything so they just left.I guess what i'm trying to say is that no one DESERVES to be homeless whether it was their choice or not and i agree with Wild Creature, an addiction is not a choice!
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Registered: October 17, 2003
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Well, since you used my link, I'll tell why I was homeless when I was little.

My father was a drunk and a drug user. He was married to my mother and they both decided to have children. They had us and after a while we were kicked out of the house, because my Dad lost his job and wasn't able to pay the bills. My sister and I were dragged into it all. My Dad finally got his act together and searched for a job, he got a job at a local mall and saved up and went to city college. He went to learn about being a salesman, and got a job at Omnia Leather. And ever since we bought a house and living happily ever after.

My Dad deserved to be homeless, he wasted his money on drugs and alcohol.

People that have disabilities, etc., and children don't deserve to be homeless. The kids don't have a choice.
-Sunset Smile


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Registered: November 23, 2004
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Ftballgrl, how could it be a choice? Most people are homeless because of finacial reasons. (Or so i belive) Charity does come from the home, from people with homes. And we should help them out. it would pretty much be in humane to just leave them out there by themselves. think of it as your good deed for that day, then do another the next day and your life will get better and better every day! Razz
And i agree with jamaica.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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No....


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: November 25, 2004
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In my country, these people are called drunks. No one cares of them.

They enjoy pickpocketting idiotic tourists. They are not arrested for this.


No, I am not the Anti-Christ.
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Registered: October 19, 2004
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Being homeless is USUALLY a choice. Have u ever actually talked to someone who is homeless? Many are because of mistakes of their past, or because they enjoy the freedom of being homeless. With it you have no deadlines, wakeup times, responsibilities... therefore they CHOSE to be. But yes homeless deserve to enjoy the holiday season, just as all people do. If they would like the help then they deserve the help. And for those they aren't interested... well... as the rest of their lives are, its there choice...


"laughter is a sign of love"
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Registered: July 23, 2003
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Yeah, I agree w/ RR.


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Registered: June 04, 2004
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to me this depends on the stuation. if the homeless person is homelss because of a disability and/or is old, then no he doesnt deserve it.
but if this person is one who is fully capable of working and is just too lazy than he deserves wehatever he gets.


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no, the homeless dont deserve it... i think nobody deserves to suffer like that... I mean, if you were the one out there, would you say you deserve what is going on around you? But i guess thats life. I think God put all those homeless people in the world because it serves as reminders for us to be kind and good to them... It serves as a guide for us to do good and be considerate of others even if they are homeless people.
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Registered: August 30, 2003
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If I was sleeping on the street, I'd want a dog for protection and company. I'd want a sleeping bag, a public bathroom, and clean water. And to be honest, I'd want drugs, because I'd be so miserable I'd want to kill myself.

I don't get how anybody thinks begging for change or (especially, because they work) being a squeegee kid and sleeping on the street is getting a free ride. Being cold, and hated/ignored by passers-by, and harrassed by police, and hungry, and getting sick all the time, and being totally vulnerable to predators--doesn't that sound AWESOME? When are you going to be taking to the streets?

I also don't get how people think addicts who are homeless deserve it. Drug addiction is not a choice. Addiction by it's very nature is not a choice. If it was a choice it wouldn't be called addiction, it would be called practice or something. Using drugs because you want to is different from using drugs because you feel physically sick and/or panicked (think panic attack, think obsessive-compulsive disorder fixation, think anciety as though fearing for your life) when you don't use them. Or because drugs are the only coping mechanism you have. People choose to use drugs for the first time, but it's like jumping off a cliff where you can't see how far down it is-once you let go, it's not so easy to get control again.

I don't really care what my spare change is spent on because the only reason I ever give over a quarter or a buck to somebody on the street is because I think it's a way to express to them that I think they have value and deserve compassion, just like people who have homes and safety and "normal" problems.


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Registered: March 09, 2004
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We’re in one of the richest countries in the world,
but the minimum wage is lower than it was thirty five years ago.
There are homeless people everywhere.
This homeless guy asked me for money the other day.
I was about to give it to him and then I thought he was going to use it on drugs or alcohol.
And then I thought, that’s what I’m going to use it on.
Why am I judging this poor *******.
People love to judge homeless guys. Like if you give them money they’re just going to waste it.
Well, he lives in a box, what do you want him to do? Save it up and buy a wall unit?
Take a little run to the store for a throw rug and a CD rack? He’s homeless.
I walked behind this guy the other day.
A homeless guy asked him for money.
He looks right at the homeless guy and says why don’t you go get a job you bum.
People always say that to homeless guys like it is so easy.
This homeless guy was wearing his underwear outside his pants.
Outside his pants. I’m guessing his resume isn’t all up to date.
I’m predicting some problems during the interview process.
I’m pretty sure even McDonalds has a “underwear goes inside the pants” policy.
Not that they enforce it really strictly, but technically I’m sure it is on the books.


-I am the j1zz on your flower- http://www.myspace.com/bauhausbold
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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Anybody Home?


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
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Registered: August 14, 2004
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First of all the question needs to be changed around, because you are not accounting for the fact that there are two types of homeless people:

1. People who's habits and choices force them to be homeless.

2. People who have had uncontrollable circumstances force them to be homeless.

The thing is that people too easily discard number 2 and lump them into number one. For example in my home town there used to be a bunch of production plants, like Nestles and Miller, Students in high school would get a summer job there making the equivelent to 8-10 dollars an hour, and they could live comfortably on that, so theyh never went to college, they assumed the plant would always be there, when these two plants closed people wern't trained for anything other than what their job at the plant was, which made them become impovered, and eventually some were homeless, through no real fault of their own.

Now before you jump all over the fact that they should have gone to college etc... understand that college was and still is expensive, not many people had the money around my area to be sending their kids right to college for 4 years, and trying to work and study was too hard for many people. Was there preventative action that could have been taken? Sure, but no one can forcast the closing of a plant more than a year in advance, and that doesnt leave a whole lot of time.

So do understand that before you lump all homeless people into one group.


"So others may die" - USAF Intel Targeteer Motto (607th AIS)
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