hey im a smoker and the only reason i started smoking is bc i need a way to relieve stress and it really makes me mad when people tell me that i need to quit bc im killing myself i know this most of americia drinks and that kills them too more people die of drunk driving accidents in a month than people smoking i never started smoking to impress anyone or to fit in i started bc i wanted to

You think Americans smoke? Go to Moscow.

i know a lot of people who are social smokers. they only smoke in parties or when they are around a lot of people. after that, they start getting addicted. young people are getting more and more involved in smoking. they do not even know the effects it has. i feel that smoking is not only slowly killing yourself but it is also speeding up others' death. sometimes i feel that smokers are so selfish... i mean, you can ruin your own life but don't take somebody else with you through second hand smoking. it's even more dangerous that smoking yourself.

Ok, first of all my grandpa died of lung cancer due to smoking, don't tell me it isn't lethal. I've missed him ever since, he was a brilliant man, a great mentor, and a funny grandpa. People who smoke are not only comitting suicide but they are affecting the lives of others around them, close to them, and far from them. Every time a person dies because of smoking there are hundreds of people that are affected, it's a chain reaction. So if you smoke, you're being selfish because one day you will die and others will have to pay for it.
Furthermore, smoking is only bad because the tobacco companies riddle their cigaretts and whatnot with chemicals and ingredients that are unnecesary (sp). If they would make cigarettes (sp) and cigars out of just tobacco, a non-toxic wrap, and a non-toxic filter then no one would die from smoking. But then what would we have to gripe about?

im a smoker,i cant stand when people say,"you only smoke to fit in" and in some cases thats true i kno a few people like that but im not one of them cigerattes for me is a comfort thing. i grew up with a smoker and at 1 point lived in a house where every or most every adult in it smoked just bout 3 yrs ago my g-ma died of enthasuim(not sure how its spelt)its a cancer that ONLY can bethere or your effected ONLY if you worked in a coal mine for quite a few years or smoked.i was already smoken then but after she died even tho i was scared i would get it,it made me want to smoke more because anytime id be at her house it would alwayz smell like smoke or shed alwayz be smoking n once i knew that wouldnt happen again able to smell it or anything it almost made me think i was closer to her by smoking because smoking reminds me of my gma n her house n as i went threw certian things i realized my grandma n her house were the memorys i was cluess of i was to young to kno what was going on...i felt safe and thats what smoking for me almost does it brings me back to those memorys n to a place where i can feel safe and not have to worry or be stressed of things

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Hahaha. You can get hooked on coke after one usage. Tobacco is addictive, but not that addictive.

No, of course not. It is the nicotine within the tobacco product that makes it as extremely addictive as it is.

Hahaha. You can get hooked on coke after one usage. Tobacco is addictive, but not that addictive.

"And I highly doubt that COCAINE is less addictive than cigarettes or marijuana. That is an absurd statistic and I would like a source."
Bushsupporter

You can find the statistics on www.ash.org and if you want, I have a list of over 20 sites you can read, all of which say that smoking is extremely harmful. (If you would want this list, please feel free to ask for it) Cocaine is more harmful, but it is less addictive.

Also I do not think that the smoking population of america is uncapable of deciding whether or not to smoke, I think that most of them make an uninformed decision. The government doesn't require the tobacco companies to give out all the proper warnings or list the ingredients, while they make any other food product or medication do so.

I also agree that adults should have the right to smoke or not to, but I beleive that they do not have the right to contaminate the air for others including children. Children can not do anything about the actions of others and if they try to they are ignored. I trust that you, bushsupporter, do not force children to breathe the second-hand smoke that is emmitted by your cigar, and I also trust that you fully understand the dangers of smoking otherwise you wouldn't be protesting this as much.

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The question that i want to ask the disbelievers is why would the government risk losing the money that the cigarette taxes bring in, or risk a blow to the economy if the cigarette smoke isn't really dangerous?

Because they don't understand what the hell they are doing, or maybe they just plan to raise taxes on something else like capital gains or estates (other morally wrong taxes) to cover the difference. I really can't say except for the fact that the government and the bureaucracies will go to extreme lengths to control the lives of the people that they serve.

It has nothing to do with "big business (oh my God, Halliburton... Cheney... puppet masters... mind control... etc.)" it has to do with the fact that Capitalists see the market place as a place where only grown ups should be. If you are an adult, then you should realize the consequences of smoking before you start. I smoke on occassion, usually cigars, and I understand the health risks associated with it. All adults should.

Capitalist see the market place as a free forum for ideas and products that allow the rational human mind make the choices for himself. Read Locke's "Tretises on Government." I beleive that all people should decide for themselves and are capable of doing so. You think that they cannot and the government should do it for you.

And I highly doubt that COCAINE is less addictive than cigarettes or marijuana. That is an absurd statistic and I would like a source.

By the way, the "studies" on the harmful effects of second hand smoke are shady at best and lies a worst. There is not consensus on the "harmful" effects of second hand somke, so don't talk about that.

Thankyou! Final someone agrees with me. I did a project for school on smoking and second-hand smoke. The government and the tobacco companies both agree that it is hazardous yet they both still don nothing to make them safer. Cigarette smoke has over 45 carcinogenic compounds. It causes more deaths in America than AIDS and car accidents combined. It is 8x more addictive than marijuana, and 22x more addictive than cocaine.
Do the smokers of America realize that by smoking a cigarette they are endangering the life of everyone around them. Second-hand smoke has more deadly chemicals than mainstream smoke does.

Firstly I'd just like to ask what satisfaction do some people get out of pointing out trivial errors and mistakes? Get over yourself.
And to answer your question, i have previously posted a poll about this topic, sort of. i totally agree with you, i have seen the stats (which some say are false, only created to add to the fact that we are living in a culture...blah, blah, blah....) For many capitalists, its not about the health issues, its about big business. Tabacco companies are rolling in the cash, and the Government is reaping the benefits of that. Now governments are disregarding the health issues and allowing the cigarettes to be sold to anyone over 19, and sometimes younger. In Canada the government is taking steps toward making it illegal to smoke in public places, which is best for everyone, although some don't see it that way....smokers, restaurant owners, etc....The question that i want to ask the disbelievers is why would the government risk losing the money that the cigarette taxes bring in, or risk a blow to the economy if the cigarette smoke isn't really dangerous?

Ok

1. Thanks for the tip, I'll remeber that next time.
2. My computer messed up and
I only planned to post it once.
3. The double post did not affect you one bit, so I don't see why you are worried about it.

1. Learn to spell.
2. Post topics ONCE. Not twice.