no offense or anything but that's stupid! It's part of nature. Snakes eat rats. It's how it works. We need the things that are in meat. It has things like protein that we have to have.

Ok, fair enough, Glove. That makes sense. I still don't feel like I have the "right" to eat meat, but that's just me.

You took the words right out of my mouth strangelove.

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Then doesn't that give lions and sharks the right to eat humans? They are natural carnivores.

Absolutely, however humans, as an organized species, also have a right to defend our lives. Having the "right" to attempt to eat us doesn't mean that they don't have to face the consequences of doing so. Humans are extremely dangerous and prolific.

Then doesn't that give lions and sharks the right to eat humans? They are natural carnivores.

Humans are animals, just like an insect and just like an ape. We are omnivores, as evidenced by our mixture of grinding molars and tearing canines and encisors. Biologically, we have as much right to kill a chicken for food as a lion has right to kill an antelope for food. We are included in the circle of life like any other living thing.

If you are a true vegetarian, I respect that. If you choose not to eat meat, that is perfectly all right. As is the decision, or moreover instinct, to eat meat. I will admit, I'm not a vegetarian. However, I do have much compassion for all animals and hate to see them suffer, more than I hate to see humans suffer in most cases. I cannot see myself not eating meat. That is just not for me. My girlfriend is a vegetarian and I have massive amounts of respect for her (she is a true vegetarian, not one of those morons who does it for a fad or who think it's healthier to not eat meat).

We do have a biological right to eat meat.

lmao doc

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Is there any evidence for that or is that your own conjecture

that her siblings were brutally killed and that tyke almost was, is a matter of record check out the link slew posted below. and EG that is a possability as well but we can't be sure what really caused it.

So vegetarianism is caused by brain damage or severe mental trauma. Either that or stupidity.

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Is there any evidence for that or is that your own conjecture

that her siblings were brutally killed and that tyke almost was, is a matter of record check out the link slew posted below. and EG that is a possability as well but we can't be sure what really caused it.

I don't think it was the trauma of watching her siblings get killed, I think it was the fact that her mother tried to kill her. Being rough with any newborn can cause severe brain damage.

http://www.vegetarismus.ch/vegepet/tyke.htm

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yes like I said the brutal murder of her siblings by her mother most likely traumatized the animal

Is there any evidence for that or is that your own conjecture?

yes like I said the brutal murder of her siblings by her mother most likely traumatized the animal

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
wow but she didn't choose it it was probaly a reaction to the death of her siblings so I won't go veg but I will accept that and animal that is normally a carnivore can survive eating only vegiation, good link slew

Exactly, this lion most likely either had some psychological or physiological disorder/damage that caused it to do this. It's cute, but it's totally irrelevent. It also in no way invalidates the concept of natural law.

wow but she didn't choose it it was probaly a reaction to the death of her siblings so I won't go veg but I will accept that and animal that is normally a carnivore can survive eating only vegiation, good link slew

Consider it done

can you NM me that link slew I can't check it from here and it'll be lost by the time I can log on tomorrow

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as soon as some one can convince a polar bear (largest land carnivore) or a grizzly (largest omnivore but eats primarlily meat) to go veggie is the day I'll go veggie

Is this close enough?
Little Tyke: The True Story of a Gentle Vegetarian Lioness

It's all the circle of life simba...I mean Hub

Yeah, I know. I just felt so sorry for it.

quite so