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Picture of queenshena
Registered: October 06, 2004
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Originally posted by gerbergurl146:
i don't agree w/ religons that say you shouldn't use condoms. i honestly think that the CHISTIAN GOD would aprove of them. i do however also believe in abstinence is the best policy. i don't think that you should have sex outside of marriage. but if you are going to make that decision yourself to give up your virginity by all means protect yourself. for another thing. it doesn't make any sense that some religions say that you can't use condoms inside of marriage, if you want to have sex and not have kids (in marriage). why not. but if you do make that choice i say: protect yourself.

i think that religon is right and that god would apove of condoms as long as your using them with a person your married to. but i too belive in abstinence is the best policy because thats one of the ways you can keep yourself from getting std's in the first place.and i also say that if you do make that choice of wanting to loose you virginity i do think that you should pretect youself. i would tell you what god already wants you to do when you are in that situation but i think you already know. i just know that i want to keep mine until i was married because i think of a virginity as an internal gift to you husband but if you decide you want to give it to that special someone in your life than do what you want to do because i can tell you that i think you shouldnt or dont do it but who is it goin' to stop.

queenshena
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Registered: March 22, 2004
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God said don't have sex outside of marriage...but I doubt be minds if ya use them when you are married
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Registered: August 06, 2003
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i don't agree w/ religons that say you shouldn't use condoms. i honestly think that the CHISTIAN GOD would aprove of them. i do however also believe in abstinence is the best policy. i don't think that you should have sex outside of marriage. but if you are going to make that decision yourself to give up your virginity by all means protect yourself. for another thing. it doesn't make any sense that some religions say that you can't use condoms inside of marriage, if you want to have sex and not have kids (in marriage). why not. but if you do make that choice i say: protect yourself.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Yes, but it may be the thing closest to a compliment Jamaica has ever gotten in this site.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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She didn't say anything about it.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
Registered: June 28, 2003
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thanks amberwiz87!!! Wink
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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You cant stop HIV/AIDS if you dont stop fooling around and be promiscuous. People who are in a monogamous relationship (providing their own partner didnt have any other sexual partners) can guarantee of not acquiring AIDS. But if you yourself are so promiscuous and cant help but have one-night stands, well, i should say.... you deserve to have AIDS. Sex should be special, not some kind of game or prize you have to get in order for you to get physical pleasure.


Actually, you can have one partner and get AIDS. Considering you probably have never had any sort of partner, I will inform you that your boyfriend can easily lie to you and tell you he has nothing. You sleep with him. Boom, AIDS. Also, like always, you are assuring a person who has sex is promiscous, which is ridiculous, because you can: a. not have sex b. be promiscous c. sleep with your partner or d. sleep with some people.

Also, you have forgotten, that condoms exist. You know, condoms. As in protection. You know what they are? If not I'll mail you one to the Philipines. Yes, they work against STDs and pregnancies if used properly. Condoms, let me say it again, condoms.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 15, 2003
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Originally posted by Eeyore15:
Yes, God hate sexual diseases as much as anyone else But God say there should be no sex until you are married and if you wait to have sex til marriege than diseases are not common.

eyeyore, thats only true in first world countries, and even then, HIV / AIDS isn't that uncommon in married couples.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Originally posted by jamaica17:
You cant stop HIV/AIDS if you dont stop fooling around and be promiscuous. People who are in a monogamous relationship (providing their own partner didnt have any other sexual partners) can guarantee of not acquiring AIDS.
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That is an interesting artical.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: September 11, 2002
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Abstinence only education is simply not working. For all of you proclaiming the beauty and sanctity of waiting until marriage to have sex, that's great, but it's not working for the masses. We need to teach children the truth about love and sex instead of hiding it in a closet until they come across incorrect sexual messages in the media, during high school or when they go to college. If religious people would stop placing all this stigma on planned parenthood and using protection, then pregnancy and STD rates would drop because everyone would be more comfortable using protection methods. Anyone who says sex is purely for reproduction and denies the use of contraception is just fueling the over-population of the planet and the problems facing so many young people today.
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Registered: December 20, 2002
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http://www.avert.org/origins.htm

Good site about possible origins of HIV. The theory about eating ape flesh is mentioned there, it's far from fact though.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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but HIV definitely wasn't around in ancient Egypt, studies of the DNA of the HIV virus have shown that it's young.




I think northstar may have been talking about a relative of the AIDS virus.


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Registered: December 20, 2002
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A little off subject, but I'm wondering:
'How did these diseases come to be in the first place?'



Big question. Smile

Well, if you mean the existence of the viruses themselves, sexual diseases are no different to disease in general. Sex is just another means of transmission, and all a virus is programmed to do is to find new hosts and replicate itself in the cells of that host… using sex to do it is a successful strategy, the same as the exchange of any bodily fluids. So sexual viruses develop.

Syphilis has been around for centuries. HIV (and AIDS) though is an example of one that has evolved comparitively recently- it's less than 100 years old. I think the first recorded case that fits the symptoms was in the 1950s, and people weren't really aware of it until the 1970s. I don't know where northstar got their info from but HIV definitely wasn't around in ancient Egypt, studies of the DNA of the HIV virus have shown that it's young.

If you mean, why do these diseases exist and are so widespread, well that would be (obviously) people like sex but they don't necessarily like condoms… Or they don't have condoms, or they don't know the dangers…

In India sexual diseases are very widespread because it's the cultural norm for married men to go to brothels or have affairs (while the women are expected to be absolutely faithful), the man then picks up an STD, spreads to the wife and in some cases it is passed on to the children… and so it goes on. So the attitudes of society are very important.

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Stop having sex for pleasure and stop acting like your virginity is someting that isn't worth much.


Smile I'm all for people thinking seriously before they have sex, I think people tend to underestimate the emotional baggage it can create, and I think you need maturity to deal with that. But if you're not having sex for pleasure then what are you doing it for? Babies? :S Some nice person invented contraception to get around that little problem.

-Inky Smile
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Registered: June 22, 2004
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Stop having sex for pleasure and stop acting like your virginity is someting that isn't worth much. Here's my theory: You only have one virginity but you'll have more than one significant other so don't throw something that precious away.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
Registered: June 28, 2003
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You cant stop HIV/AIDS if you dont stop fooling around and be promiscuous. People who are in a monogamous relationship (providing their own partner didnt have any other sexual partners) can guarantee of not acquiring AIDS. But if you yourself are so promiscuous and cant help but have one-night stands, well, i should say.... you deserve to have AIDS. Sex should be special, not some kind of game or prize you have to get in order for you to get physical pleasure.
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Registered: August 15, 2004
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What that guy said. And if you are sticking strictly to the religious viewpoint of no condoms then you should also be sticking with the religious viewpoint of no sex until marriage, or you're a hipocrite. If you have sex before marriage why not use a condom? You're already breaking the rules.

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AIDS came from eating ape flesh raw. The disease is a normal part of the african ape blood. It is very ancient, we have papyrus from the 12th dynasty that talks about a disease whose symptoms are parallel to AIDS.


It's SIDS or simmeon immuno deficiency syndrome (vs. AIDS auto immuno deficiency syndrome). They are essentially identical. However humans are immune to SIDS and monkies are immune to AIDS. It is believed that the SIDS virus mutated when it entered the first human victim to form what we today know as AIDS. And the fact that he happened to be bisexual and first infected a man automatically stuck gays with the stigma of AIDS. Anyways.

Ciao


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: October 04, 2003
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Abstinence is the best way to go but if you decide to anyways, Make sure you use a condom!!! It not only prevents against having a kid, but also alot of STDs(But not all). So do whatever seems right for you. But for me, Ive decided to stay abstinent.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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AIDS came from eating ape flesh raw. The disease is a normal part of the african ape blood. It is very ancient, we have papyrus from the 12th dynasty that talks about a disease whose symptoms are parallel to AIDS.


O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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A little off subject, but I'm wondering:
'How did these diseases come to be in the first place?'

Please DO NOT respond if it is going to be something along the lines of 'God created them to punish...'


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