Anyone heard of Kevin Trudeau? He wrote a book on how our Government, FDA, and FTC WANTS us to get cancer and other diseases. It sounds crazy but if you look into it, its really appalling.
He talks about how to heal yourself naturally through the right foods, how you can literally cure anything; cancer, diabetes, common headaches, acid reflux, you name it. He also talks about how anything you consume besides organic foods is extremely toxic to our bodies, which is causing these diseases. Its crazy.
You should check out this website www.naturalcures.com
It really opened my eyes and i hope that I can help spread the word about what's going on with our foods and health.

dianetics is a crock. it seems kevin trudeau is just manipulating people's fear into making them open to dianetics, a trick a lot of missionaries pull... playing on people's emotions and then dragging them into the fold. it's not right

Fishfool @ The Reef Tank

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Originally posted by clpo13:

This whole thing reminded me of something very ironic I learned a while ago: we have more allergies now because we live in cleaner environments. Isn't that a kicker? Nothing to do with Kevin Trudeau, but interesting nonetheless.

Oh yeah, my Mom is always on about that. Really though, it makes sense. If you're exposed to it early when you're forming resistances, and it doesn't overwhelm you when you're young, then you form a resistance but when you're older you don't form them. Like with Native Americans and diseases.

It's true that non-organic foods (by that I mean foods that contain preservatives and pesticides and whatnot) are not exactly healthy for you. Take your average apple, for instance. Fertilizer was most likely used to grow the tree that produced this apple. While the apple was growing, it was probably sprayed with pesticides to keep it from being eaten. Finally, once it was picked, it was cleaned and sprayed in preservatives or wrapped in a thin layer of wax to keep it from going bad in the supermarket. Most, if not all, of those chemicals stay with the apple and go into your body. Of course, your body is able to handle the chemicals rather efficiently (thanks to those wonderful organs known as kidneys), but they still can cause harm in the long run, since they aren't things our body is especially used to taking in.

Organic foods, on the other hand, use none of that, which make them healthier. However, they suffer the problems chemicals were designed to combat, which is one reason why they're so damned expensive. There are other reasons, but I'm fairly sure low supply due to insects is some factor. Also, there can be other, more dangerous problems, such as E. coli (which ruined spinach's reputation), which can stay on foods even when they're washed. Natural fertilizers (cow manure, anyone?) can lead to diseased foods.

Of course, this is not to say that all organic foods will kill you instantly, but they carry some sort of risk, just as chemically-enhanced foods do. Plus they're expensive, which is why a lot of people don't eat them. If you see two apples on sale, one for a dollar a pound and the other for three dollars a pound, which do you think the average person is going to buy? The cheaper one, which is the non-organic one.

Anyways, eating certain kinds of food won't cure cancer or other diseases. It will improve your general health in the long-run, but other aspects of our environment contribute to things like cancer. We just can't quite figure out what.

This whole thing reminded me of something very ironic I learned a while ago: we have more allergies now because we live in cleaner environments. Isn't that a kicker? Nothing to do with Kevin Trudeau, but interesting nonetheless.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:

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I almost died laughing.

see? it worked temporarily

Hey, there you go! It works! It's a miracle! Call the news stations!

JK

And Ellie, you should try to not take things so personally. Most of us on here aren't bashing you personally, we're commenting on what you posted. And those people who do bash you personally shouldn't be listened to anyway.

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I almost died laughing.

see? it worked temporarily

You can believe he's right all you want. But it is my opinion that he is full of shit. I flipped through his book once, and looked at his "cure" for depression. I almost died laughing.

Yeah, I can fall into things easliy, and beleive them easily as well.

I think people are on his case because they dont want us to know the truth. Maybe that's false and I just really want to beleive that he is right.

Who knows

Media lies to us all the time so it's hard to know what to beleive.
Ive had experience (long story short, my friend at the time was at a movie theatre, this teenage boy kept knocking on a door and police officer told him to stop. He kept doing it, and he police literally jumped the guy, started banging his head into the door. She was trying to help this kid and she was like yelling at the officer [ as were about 5 other people standing outside ]because it seemed extremely unjust. The officer pulled his gun out and said if anyone said anything else he would shoot.
My friend was telling the news people what had happened, and when they aired it, they COMPELETELY reversed my story, making the kid the victim. She emalied the news station, extremely irate and they told me they would come to her house to get the real story. AGAIN,they played it off as the kid being the victim. It was extremely stressful and frusterating.)

Oh well, who knows.
So, Earth, what are your views on religion?
Haha, just kidding. :]

I wasn't calling you stupid, EllieN. I was calling Kevin Trudeau stupid. Because I think many of his so called "cures" are bullshit. And he's not a doctor, he only pretends to be. So, I'm under the impression that he's an idiot. But I do think you're easily manipulated. That's how people like him (theives) who make false claims make lots of money. They convince people that they are 100% right.

In my mind, if he's willing to lie and be decietful then for the sake of money, who's to say he wouldn't do that again? I'm completely convinced that's what he's up to. Besides, regular foods are just as good as organic foods. The general rule of thumb is don't buy anything with more than 10 ingredients, or with ingredients you can't pronounce. I told you that and didn't ask for a damn dime.

Strangelove needs to say something about this, since he knows more about the whole Organic food thing.

Apologizing is easier than fighting
Im sensative, even if its just on a message board, haha.


Oh well, enough with this

Maybe all this organic suff is crap, but I really do beleive it's amazing.

Im just glad my aunts still here.

Have a nice day, everyone!

Ellie honey you're not going to get very far on this site if you apologize that easily. It's EG's problem if she thinks you're stupid.

All EG was trying to point out was that he has lied in the past so you should be very careful about believe what he says now. And that some of the stuff he says is already common knowledge.

EG, be nice dear. She's new.

I admit I find it very hard to believe that your aunt had no medical treatment and her cancer went away. Are you sure it's gone or is it just in a remission type of thing?

Im sorry that I sound stupid EarthGoddess

Ive read some of that bad stuff about him, but it doesnt make everything False.
Hes not the only one that's trying to let people know about Organic foods and such, and I know you think that only stupid people do not realize organic food is out there, but in reality there are.

I dont appreciate you calling me stupid, but its your opinion. I'm not looking for a fight, I was just excited after reading some things. Sorry for wasting SO much of your time.
Have a nice day :]

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Riskbreaker, I dont think so, he used to be a doctor, but didnt like seeing all his patience die.

You poor, poor ignorant child.

"In 1990, he posed as a doctor in order to deposit $80,000 in false checks, and in 1991 he pled guilty to larceny after he had provided false information to obtain credit cards which he used for his own purposes."


"Then, in 1998, he was forced to pay $500,000 in consumer redress to the Federal Trade Commission (FTC), relating to six infomercials he had produced and in which the FTC determined he had made false or misleading claims. Trudeau claims that this is a prime example of the fact that the FTC is in cahoots with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and pharmaceutical industries in denying people the right to freedom of health care for the sake of profit at the expense of U.S. citizens."

"In September 2004, Trudeau agreed to pay $2 million ($500,000 in cash and transfer of residential property located in Ojai, California, and a luxury vehicle) to settle charges that he falsely claimed that a coral calcium product can cure cancer and other serious diseases and that a purported analgesic called Biotape can permanently cure or relieve severe pain."

"In Natural Cures, Trudeau recommends practicing Scientology/Dianetics to live a healthier lifestyle."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Trudeau

He's a liar and a crook. He's fucking crazy. Eating healthy and excersing all the time is heathly. That's a no-brainer and you shouldn't have to buy a book to figure that out. But it doesn't cure everything, including stupid.

No, she did not have treatment. Beleive me or not, I guess I dont really care, heh.

Ive done some research, Im not saying Kevin is a genious, i know a lot of other people have found this stuff out too and probably wrote books and websites and such

I mean, my aunt had the experience, I think thats why im passionate about it.

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Originally posted by Horselover14:
So, Ellie, your aunt never had treatment for the cancer? Or are you saying that the organic/healthy diet helped her through the treatment?

Like I said before, I'm a huge fan of organic and healthy foods. I just don't think you can cure cancer and such by suddenly drinking purified water. Organic foods are a prevention thing, not necessarily a cure.

And don't worry about it Ellie, just maybe research it better before you post it. I don't mean to bash you or anything, I'm just trying to point out that this guy might not be the genius you seem to think he is. Say, have you been to the adoption thread in Randomostity yet?

So, Ellie, your aunt never had treatment for the cancer? Or are you saying that the organic/healthy diet helped her through the treatment?

Like I said before, I'm a huge fan of organic and healthy foods. I just don't think you can cure cancer and such by suddenly drinking purified water. Organic foods are a prevention thing, not necessarily a cure.

And don't worry about it Ellie, just maybe research it better before you post it. I don't mean to bash you or anything, I'm just trying to point out that this guy might not be the genius you seem to think he is. Say, have you been to the adoption thread in Randomostity yet?

Ah sorry, double posting.


My Aunt had breast cancer about two years ago and before accepting treatment she did some research and found out about all these natural cures.
She found out the cancer was eating off of the fats stored in her body,and that's also where the cancer is stored, even when it is "gone".
She started juicing and eating only organic foods. She only drank purified water (she, and my mom bought a reverse osmosis water thing) tea, and juiced fruits and veggies.
Her cancer is gone now, thank God, and shes very fit and healthy.

Horselover, I know it sounds weird and stupid that the Government wants us to get Cancer and other diseases, but if you check out the book or website you can read all about it.

I probably sound stupid but I just think its really cool, and releiving that you can cure yourself without medication.

Thanks for reading, anyway.

Riskbreaker, I dont think so, he used to be a doctor, but didnt like seeing all his patience die.


Haha sorry guys, I guess i was excited when I posted this, right after reading it.

But its still pretty cool.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
is he the proprietor of a natural food company i assume?

LOL riskbreaker, too true.

Ellie, it's not exactly news that eating right and exercising will result in better health. Nor is it news that non-organic commercially produced foods have pesticides on them. What do you thing the whole organic movement is about? However, I might remind you that any crackpot can write a book saying "If you turn a circle three times and say organic then you will never get cancer." Eating right would cure a lot of the problems, but if you have cancer then suddenly deciding to eat organic won't cure it.

Don't get me wrong here, I'm a HUGE fan of organic food. We buy organic stuff all the time. I'm just saying that this guy isn't brilliant for "discovering" these benefits and that I highly doubt that the government wants us to get cancer.

is he the proprietor of a natural food company i assume?