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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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If nobody gets hurt, robbing a bank is a victomless crime, because the money is insured. Should we legalize bank robberies?
Marine 16 - the man, the myth, the legend
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally posted by marine16: "Its used to calm people down, its also used to treat depression, and pain." - So do countless prescripition drugs on the market. All of these legal drugs have non of the medical side-effects of marijuana. Thus there is no need to legalize it.
Bauhaus, if youa re trying to tell me the only reason people smoke pot is to get over their sickness, then you would have to be admitting that those people are terminally ill.
I think it should be decriminalized. I think its very stupid to send people to jail for a long time for a victimless crime. I think marijuana can be used to help with pain because its not an opiate, and opiates cause liver damage and are very addictive. Thats why people abuse pain killers. Like you said they have a THC pill, why cant we just stick to that? because its the same thing as smoking, vaporizing and eating weed. so there isnt any reason why we should keep people from using the natural plant. I'm sure that pill costs a lot more then it would be to harvest a plant. Just stick a seed in a ground 4months later you're set. If the dude has cancer why would he be drinking his problems away its going to make things worse! I know its very hard to understand because youve never been high or ate a pot brownie. I used to think the same way when I was 15 because DARE tricked me. I then realized that a lot of well known succesfull people smoked. Hell the most succesfull generation grew up around weed during the 60s 70s... OUR PARENTS they arent dead or doing bad at all. So I gave it a shot, I'm still alive and I have smoked a lot of pot. I dont do it anymore though, its something you grow out of. I have never seen anyone getting in a fight off pot alone, maybe if pcp, cocaine, or alcohol were mixed with it. I enjoy getting drunk off my ***. See the reason why you believe the govt is because they DO NOT FUND drug research if its to find positive effects of the drug. They will only fund if its to make the drug look bad.
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Registered: December 20, 2004
Posts: 950
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How about this, we legalize it and people won't do it anymore and then we won't have to worry about the jail time people are getting and we only have to worry about the people that are high and then they don't have to put people in jail for it and yeah... You get my point. 
I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
Posts: 5770
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Doesn't excess alcohol cause people to act in rash and inappropriate ways? Personally, I think that alcohol is far worse than marijuana. It causes agressive behavior versus passive behavior, and it can cause long term kidney and liver problems.
They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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"Its used to calm people down, its also used to treat depression, and pain." - So do countless prescripition drugs on the market. All of these legal drugs have non of the medical side-effects of marijuana. Thus there is no need to legalize it. Bauhaus, if youa re trying to tell me the only reason people smoke pot is to get over their sickness, then you would have to be admitting that those people are terminally ill.
Marine 16 - the man, the myth, the legend
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 45
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i don't care what your statistics say, i can find a statistic that says anything. the fact is that i have seen many fights caused by the parcipitants taking marijuana. it all depends on the amount you take. but you saying that it causes people to be too lazy to do anything is not true
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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Marijuana is the complete opposite of what you are talking about. Its used to calm people down, its also used to treat depression, and pain.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally posted by oppinionted: the drug itself may not kill you but what you do under the influence might. it doesn't allow you to think clearly and you are unable to rationalize anything before you do it. there are fights cause from this drug because people are easily aggitated while using it. basically you can be convinced to do just about anything while using this drug.
they are easily aggitated?? wtf marijuana isnt crack.. Its a DOWNER. dont you understand that?
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 45
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the drug itself may not kill you but what you do under the influence might. it doesn't allow you to think clearly and you are unable to rationalize anything before you do it. there are fights cause from this drug because people are easily aggitated while using it. basically you can be convinced to do just about anything while using this drug.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally posted by swedish_beloved:
quote: Originally posted by bauhaus:
quote: Originally posted by oppinionted: no not zero. try thousands, and if it is legalized probably millions
Actually no one in the history of marijuana has ever died because of an overdose. Please show me a source stating people have died because of it. please read the articles I posted on page 2.
so you think noone has ever been killed by a stoned person in a car accident? Or a fight, etc.? And to say that no one in history has ever died from an overdose is like saying "There is no such thing as a bird with a blue tail." You would have to look at every bird in the universe, plus all past birds in the history of the world, which is of course impossible.
Jewlz
its been tested on lab rats, there is no LD50 for marijuana. You would have to smoke or eat your own weight in pot to die from it. You cant fight when your high. Infact youd be to lazy to fight. Its a downer drug. coke and alcohol on the other hand... those are the ones who fight. Driving stoned might happen, but so can being tired.
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 5
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quote: Originally posted by bauhaus:
quote: Originally posted by oppinionted: no not zero. try thousands, and if it is legalized probably millions
Actually no one in the history of marijuana has ever died because of an overdose. Please show me a source stating people have died because of it. please read the articles I posted on page 2.
so you think noone has ever been killed by a stoned person in a car accident? Or a fight, etc.? And to say that no one in history has ever died from an overdose is like saying "There is no such thing as a bird with a blue tail." You would have to look at every bird in the universe, plus all past birds in the history of the world, which is of course impossible. Jewlz
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: So lets make it legal for cancer patients. And to argue that it would unclog our prisons, how about thinking and not doing something illegal to be in there. Plus, freeing thousands of stoners would be good how???? thats right, it would be BAD.
Whats wrong with stoners? besides eating all your food. its not like they go around raping and killing people. Its a vitctimless crime.
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 5
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by katalinacmnacha89: From an economics standpoint, actually, the legalization of pot would probably help. Think of all the people sitting in jails, clogging up the justice system, because they smoked pot. If you release these people, you are left with more money for other things that would have otherwise gone to taking care of them. Not to mention the pay for cops that do drug bust. And the fact that there are all kinds of underground black-market drug wars, with people dying because of these all the time. If we made it legal, these wouldn't occur as much.
I am actually for legalization of marijuana, for the reasons above and for the fact that it is actually beneficial for some people. In San Francisco, and other places, medical marijuana has been legalized for cancer patients and other people suffering from deadly, painful diseases who say that pot is what keeps them alive. Also, pot is less detrimental to the health than say, cigarettes, or even, in the long-term, alchohol.[QUOTE]
So lets make it legal for cancer patients. And to argue that it would unclog our prisons, how about thinking and not doing something illegal to be in there. Plus, freeing thousands of stoners would be good how???? thats right, it would be BAD.
Jewlz
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally posted by oppinionted: no not zero. try thousands, and if it is legalized probably millions
Actually no one in the history of marijuana has ever died because of an overdose. Please show me a source stating people have died because of it. please read the articles I posted on page 2.
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 45
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i do not deny that people say that it is keeping them alive,or that it would help some people, but before they legalize it they should do more in depth studies to prove that it actually helps people with cancer or other types of diseases. I am all fore fighting cancer but what if there are side effects that are not apparent at this time. it would also make it easier for drug dealers to get and sell, many people die from taking too much of it. True it would save our country money but if it is hurting our citizens then i don't think it is worth it
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Registered: November 29, 2003
Posts: 1891
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From an economics standpoint, actually, the legalization of pot would probably help. Think of all the people sitting in jails, clogging up the justice system, because they smoked pot. If you release these people, you are left with more money for other things that would have otherwise gone to taking care of them. Not to mention the pay for cops that do drug bust. And the fact that there are all kinds of underground black-market drug wars, with people dying because of these all the time. If we made it legal, these wouldn't occur as much. I am actually for legalization of marijuana, for the reasons above and for the fact that it is actually beneficial for some people. In San Francisco, and other places, medical marijuana has been legalized for cancer patients and other people suffering from deadly, painful diseases who say that pot is what keeps them alive. Also, pot is less detrimental to the health than say, cigarettes, or even, in the long-term, alchohol. Bushism of the day: "This very week in 1989, there were protests in East Berlin and in Leipzig. By the end of that year, every communist dictatorship in Central America had collapsed." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Nov. 6, 2003
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 45
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no not zero. try thousands, and if it is legalized probably millions
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Registered: March 09, 2004
Posts: 2913
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quote: Originally posted by oppinionted: look at it this way. compare how many people die from marijuana now to the number of people that will die if it is legalized.
Zero?
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Registered: December 21, 2004
Posts: 45
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look at it this way. compare how many people die from marijuana now to the number of people that will die if it is legalized.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8337
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Jetta, you're being too broad. Marine16, hello! I haven't given you an opinion on the legalization of marijuana. Stop trying to divert negative attention from yourself.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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