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Triss wins life

Thanks speed... (the more I get to know you the more I like you)

Triss wins life

Do you really want to know why Marijauna was made illegal? It had to do with the Cotton market. Hemp, which resembles Marijuana, is a way better material than Cotton to make clothing/rope/paper/well anything. Its amazing. The Cotton industry which was owned by the political peoples at the time didn't like this becaues it cut into their profits so illegalized Marijuana and since Hemp looks like it it was made basically illegal too, saving the cotton industry. But making Marijuana EVIL.


Plus the Marijuana back when it was banned is WAY less concentrated than now. So I doubt people on it were wandering around killing people, since I've smoked up on more than one occation (with stronger stuff then they would have had) and I can tell you its the last thing on your mind, It relaxes you, makes you laugh, not anything more than that.

The Americans have made a lot of propaganda concerning Marijuana and its affects on your behavior and kids are constantly demonizing it. I do agree that if you smoke too much you kinda get dumb, and possibly paraniod, but besides that it doesn't do much, and well, I don't think anybody would say I'm slow, and i do smoke up. So I agree with EG on that point.

Now other drugs are a different story, those do mess you up, Marijuana doesn't even come close to them so you shouldn't even try comparing. (just incase you were!)

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I don't know the technical terms, but if you were stuck in a room full of nothing but CO2, it would knock you out and kill you. That's how a lot of people stuck under avalanches die. Any air pockets they may have can quickly fill with Carbon Dioxide and it "poisons" them. And I know of people who own snakes that kill rats with CO2.

Medico Babble: Carbon Dioxide, which is the result of the act of breathing (what air becomes after it passes through your lungs) does not poison you. It simply starves you of oxygen and you die of asfixiation just like your being strangled. Carbon MONoxide on the other hand is actually a poison and kills you in a diffrent way than Dioxide, however both will kill you in sufficent amounts so in the end it doesn't really matter.

On the subject at hand I think we should legalize it, audit it and tax the ever living hell out of it (though in the end I must admit that I really don't care either way)

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show me "kiddo."

Go to your library (or a college library, that would be better), find a book on drugs and/or medicine. You'll find out that alcohol and tobacco are substantially worse than marijuana.

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That's cocaine dear.

Nope. It's marijuana. Cocaine was banned because it was killing people. Whites may have been just as paranoid in thinking that cocaine made us crazy as well, and that may be part of the reason. Like I said, if I'm wrong, tell me why marijuana was banned in the first place.

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No i didn't actually. Would you like to tell me chemically in terms of bonding and polarity how it is toxic to the body... There's that other carbon monoxide.... cuz of its bonding capacity and all... that it permanently bonds to hemoglobin and causes suffocation. Psh but i'm sure an extra oxygen atom makes no difference.

carbon dioxide does not act as an enzymatic inhibitor as the chemicals present in mj.

I don't know the technical terms, but if you were stuck in a room full of nothing but CO2, it would knock you out and kill you. That's how a lot of people stuck under avalanches die. Any air pockets they may have can quickly fill with Carbon Dioxide and it "poisons" them. And I know of people who own snakes that kill rats with CO2.

I think it's someone's choice whether or not to smoke marijuana, but it isn't that good for your health. I don't really think it should be legallized but everyone has their own opinion on it.

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Oh, so it's wrong for me to insult your intelligence, yet you can insult mine. Alrighty. And trust me kiddo, whatever I'm saying you'll most likely find in a modern medical book.

show me "kiddo."

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Here's the short version: Way back in the 20s when white folks in America thought they were all superior and whatnot, many of them believed that when a black man smoked marijuana, he turned violent and crazy and wanted to rape white women. And some believed it made Mexicans crazy too. So they banned it. And it's been banned ever since.

That's cocaine dear.

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Did you know Carbon Dioxide is a toxic gas?

No i didn't actually. Would you like to tell me chemically in terms of bonding and polarity how it is toxic to the body... There's that other carbon monoxide.... cuz of its bonding capacity and all... that it permanently bonds to hemoglobin and causes suffocation. Psh but i'm sure an extra oxygen atom makes no difference.

carbon dioxide does not act as an enzymatic inhibitor as the chemicals present in mj.

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I don't get high, I've never smoked pot in my life. I don't really care to do so

perhaps i assumed too much there.. i apologize.

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don't care about the well welfare of children either. If they want to be dumb and do something like that, blame them not me. Because, again, I'm not a liberal.

I agree.

Legalize it because alcohol is worse pot just makes you hungry and makes u laugh and makes u lazy while your high and pot never killed anyone.

Ok, I've cooled down enough to respond.

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burning paper (or wood since i dont know why people would sit and burn books at a campfire) releases carbon dioxide and water. how are they toxic again?

Did you know Carbon Dioxide is a toxic gas?

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i didn't say illagalize all drugs you moron. I was emphasizing the true biological point that making any chemical changes in your body by inhaling foreign substances results in some sort of effect. I dont fucking watch tv, and just because your friends smoke marijuana it doesnt make them intelligent. intelligent people are intelligent. MArijuana can rot your brain or it can have no effect on you at all i know.

Call me a moron again. See how nice I suddenly am. Anyway, you've misinterpreted me pretty badly. I used your flawed logic in thinking that if it causes changes in the body it's bad and should be illegal. If that's your logic for keeping marijuana illegal, then why not support a ban of all over-the-counter and prescription drugs? They kill more people than Marijuana.

And I never said smoking marijuana made those people smart. I'm saying that it didn't rot their brains. It didn't make them stupid. And most of the dumd kids I've grown up with that now smoke Marijuana, were dumb before they started.

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Get off your high-horse; you are a moron if you want to legalize it. You're some pathetic little child or college girl looking for a justification to get high. and you are insulting my intelligence if you're saying i dont look up anything. I dont look in google and type in legalize it. why dont you check some medical BOOKS; not the internet.

That's strike two...

I don't get high, I've never smoked pot in my life. I don't really care to do so. I just see zero reason to keep it illegal.

Oh, so it's wrong for me to insult your intelligence, yet you can insult mine. Alrighty. And trust me kiddo, whatever I'm saying you'll most likely find in a modern medical book.

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Why are you arguing then?

Huh...?

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Why pray tell is it illegal for racist reasons? or maybe you're racist because as soon as someone says marijuana, you immediately think BLACK PEOPLE? White people smoke it too, people from every race color ethnicity and background smoke it.

Sigh...

Here's the short version: Way back in the 20s when white folks in America thought they were all superior and whatnot, many of them believed that when a black man smoked marijuana, he turned violent and crazy and wanted to rape white women. And some believed it made Mexicans crazy too. So they banned it. And it's been banned ever since.

But since I'm totally wrong and you know waaay more than I could ever hope to fathom, please tell me, why was marijuana banned in the first place? And yeah, I'm very much racist towards blacks, seeing as how I'm black and all.

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In fact, i'm surprised you're not against its legalization. As soon as some company makes money off of smokes and alcohol, liberals would be the first to complain, because they're exploiting the uneducated masses, taking advantage of their stupidity to make a profit at the risk of hurting the public right? You know damn well that as soon as mj is legalized, some company is going to make a profit off of it and turn iot into an enterprise.

I don't care if a big corporate company sells it. If someone wants to take advantage of that and make millions, more power to them. And for the love of christ, I'm not a fugging liberal.

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And then I GUARANTEE you, some stupid liberal antimarijuana organization is going to step up and say stp ruining our children. And them you're going to look like idiots because you morons were the ones that wanted it legalized in the first place.

Strike three... Quit being a fuckshit.

I don't care about the well welfare of children either. If they want to be dumb and do something like that, blame them not me. Because, again, I'm not a liberal.

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so happy you pointed that out... saved me the trouble.

You're really good at contradicting yourself.

It took you 10 months to respond, and I'm the moron. Nice.

Did you just call me a moron, Saturn? I hope, for your sake, I read that wrong.

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Burning paper releases toxic chemicals too, so I'd better not catch you at any campouts.

burning paper (or wood since i dont know why people would sit and burn books at a campfire) releases carbon dioxide and water. how are they toxic again?

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Using that logic, lets make all meds illegal. Tylenol may eliminate one problem, but in a lot of people it creates other lethal problems. The worse long term effects that can happen with Marijuana is short term memory loss, maybe even paranoia, but that's not all that common. I know a lot of people who smoke marijuana frequently and they're the smartest people you could ever meet. All these commercials you see on TV about how bad marijuana is are very dishonest.

And yes it is natural. More natural than cold medicine or Prozac

i didn't say illagalize all drugs you moron. I was emphasizing the true biological point that making any chemical changes in your body by inhaling foreign substances results in some sort of effect. I dont fucking watch tv, and just because your friends smoke marijuana it doesnt make them intelligent. intelligent people are intelligent. MArijuana can rot your brain or it can have no effect on you at all i know.

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When I say prove it, I mean prove it. I'm not insulting your intelligence. In fact, I didn't insult you at all. You're the one calling people morons. I'm trying to educate you. There really is no reason to keep marijuana illegal. Do your own research and you'll see why.

Get off your high-horse; you are a moron if you want to legalize it. You're some pathetic little child or college girl looking for a justification to get high. and you are insulting my intelligence if you're saying i dont look up anything. I dont look in google and type in legalize it. why dont you check some medical BOOKS; not the internet.

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I did my own research and over time I realized that marijuana is almost harmless if you don't smoke it and that it's only illegal for racist reasons.

Why are you arguing then? Marijuana is harmless if you dont smoke it! It's a plant, a harmless plant. Moth larvae feed on its leaves, butterflies nectar from its flowers, animals eat it! Why pray tell is it illegal for racist reasons? or maybe you're racist because as soon as someone says marijuana, you immediately think BLACK PEOPLE? White people smoke it too, people from every race color ethnicity and background smoke it. In fact, i'm surprised you're not against its legalization. As soon as some company makes money off of smokes and alcohol, liberals would be the first to complain, because they're exploiting the uneducated masses, taking advantage of their stupidity to make a profit at the risk of hurting the public right? You know damn well that as soon as mj is legalized, some company is going to make a profit off of it and turn iot into an enterprise. They're going to expand to younger kids and other groups because that's what business does! they make money. And then I GUARANTEE you, some stupid liberal antimarijuana organization is going to step up and say stp ruining our children. And them you're going to look like idiots because you morons were the ones that wanted it legalized in the first place.

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"Marijuana doesn't make you stupid, being stupid makes you stupid"

so happy you pointed that out... saved me the trouble.

Less we forget why people without medical problems even smoke pot in the first place? To escape... I know it sounds cheesey like something your eigth grade teacher would say in an Anti-Drugs unit (forced upon by a hierarchy, ahem) but really, it is the truth. Its to escape from all of this superfilial bull that goes on... and to just relax and have a good time. Aside from maybe making a stupid decision while high, the initial drug cannot kill you.

But what even happened to why people smoked pot in the 60's and 70's anyways?
Expression.
Expression to do what they want and to show everyone how they feel. I can't say that someone who hasn't smoked pot (under the circumstances that they smoked for a reason just besides to get stoned) would understand what I'm talking about. It opens up doors to what people don't see sober. And sure it might be unhealthy for you, but honestly, we all end up dieing... I'd rather feel complete and live a short life rather than live a long life filled with regrets and unanswered questions.

So I say yes to legalization, yes to expression, and yes to free your mind. Needless to say this doesn't make myself a pothead... nor does it make an excuse to judge everyone that smokes pot a "pothead." Lets stop thinking the bennefits of legalization superficially and start thinking of why people started smoking pot in the first place.

As for reasons why not to... alot of replies said that it was bad for you. Bad for me? Since when did you start caring about my health if I'm just some miserable and worthless...

dare I say it...


POTHEAD?

Marijuana should be legalized. Cigs and alcohol are both legal and, in some ways, they are both worse than marijuana.

Yeah and if you legalize it some southern states will go way up in agriculture

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No matter how good that drug can help treat a disease or illness or disorder, it is not natural, and changes things inside a body, sometimes simply eliminating one problem and creating more elsewhere.

Using that logic, lets make all meds illegal. Tylenol may eliminate one problem, but in a lot of people it creates other lethal problems. The worse long term effects that can happen with Marijuana is short term memory loss, maybe even paranoia, but that's not all that common. I know a lot of people who smoke marijuana frequently and they're the smartest people you could ever meet. All these commercials you see on TV about how bad marijuana is are very dishonest.

And yes it is natural. More natural than cold medicine or Prozac.

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And when I say its not healthy for you, it isn't, and don't insult my intelligence.

When I say prove it, I mean prove it. I'm not insulting your intelligence. In fact, I didn't insult you at all. You're the one calling people morons. I'm trying to educate you. There really is no reason to keep marijuana illegal. Do your own research and you'll see why.

I used to be just as adamantly against marijuana as you are. Check my earliest posts if you don't believe me. I did my own research and over time I realized that marijuana is almost harmless if you don't smoke it and that it's only illegal for racist reasons. Alcohol and Tobacco causes the deaths of hundred of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills no one. Don't let those silly commercials fool you.

"Marijuana doesn't make you stupid, being stupid makes you stupid"

I've participated in too many marijuana legalization discussions, and I'm too tired to recount and refute points again.

But I will provide this link to Foamy the squirrel, a creature who's got a lot on his mind and expresses it through funny and often disturbing cartoons. I don't agree with all of what he says, so don't shoot the messenger.Click on "Drugs In your head"

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. And when I say its not healthy for you, it isn't, and don't insult my intelligence. There are toxic chemicals in the leaves of the marijuana plant, which are realeased when it is burned.

If you didnt want your imtelligenece insulted you should have known it doesnt have to be burned. You would also know that that leaves are not smoked, the bud is.

End the Drug War. Legalize it!

Burning paper releases toxic chemicals too, so I'd better not catch you at any campouts.

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Wrong. Marijuana has been known to relieve some of the symptoms of Chemotherapy and it helps some people with depression.

It can have long-term affects on one's health. Besides that, any chemical that one introduces into his or her body has effects on that person's biology. No matter how good that drug can help treat a disease or illness or disorder, it is not natural, and changes things inside a body, sometimes simply eliminating one problem and creating more elsewhere. Marijuana is no different. And when I say its not healthy for you, it isn't, and don't insult my intelligence. There are toxic chemicals in the leaves of the marijuana plant, which are realeased when it is burned.