I like your style. Calling all the people who have opinions different from yours yours "potheads," "bong smokers," or "idiots." Keep up the good work.

Kiddie porn? Real classy. Why don't you read up a little on pornography laws. There are hundreds relating to pronogrpahy.

No drinking laws? Where do you live, fantasy land?

Marijuana is different than a seat belt law. I guess this is true, but libertarians always clump them in the same arguement. Not wearing a seat belt puts you in danger. Smoking marijuana puts you in danger. So it looks like they aren't as different as you might think.

Do you even understand what laws are Bauhaus? I don't think so. I mean, I really don't think you know what laws are. I think the only you know of is the one keeping drugs illegal. Do you honestly believe there are no laws regarding pornography and alcohol?

Your friend says most chefs are pot heads? It must be true then. Thank God we have a friend like yours to clearify everything who lives in San Fransico. Why don't you have him forward us and actuall acredited study saying this so we can post it for everyone to see!! That is awesome that your friend, ina ddition to wanting to be a chefs, also hase acreditted census taking abilities. He seem very talented.

I don't like Hendrix, I was simply saying that is what you pot heads do. You wear week old clothes, waste all your money on pot instead of books, when it comes time for civics class you sneek out to your moms van, put in a Hendrix or Zepplin tape, and smoke your bong (which is probablyt the most expensive thing you have ever owned.).

Please stop polluting this board with your emotional appeals.

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Originally posted by marine16:
So moovivor, can you provide me with proof that I said that? If not you are liar, and I will not respond to anything you said. Bushsupporters actions are not related to me in anyway. You bong smokers know all about saying your actions don't affect others.

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No, I can't. I admit that you didn't say that, and it was very obvious when it was in context. Oh, and if it doesn't affect you, then it doesn't matter. Is that how it is? Then why do you support this war in Iraq? Saddam was not an active threat to the United States.

So, I guess I'm a "liar". And you are an immature name-caller. But guess what! I don't really give a **** what you think. Have a nice day.

So youve looked at kiddy porn? because thats the only porn thats illegal as far as I know.

I dont see how not wearing a seat belt and getting high in your room are the same things.

There arent any laws making drinking illegal.

If you have a prescription for speed whats your point?

I see you like hendrix, I think you should just delete his songs burn his cds records and tapes because guess what? reaaaaallllll high on drugs. If it wasnt for them he wouldnt have been as good as he was.


Do you like to eat food? Guess what most chefs are potheads. My friend goes to the culinary academy in san francisco, he says about 87% of the class are stoners, he used to be one but grew out of it. When you're stoned you get hungry and want to make food.

So you think if I smoked a dobbie with your pot head friends in the back of their van while listening to Hendrix I would be for legalizing marijuana? I doubt it.

I have speed, I do not want to abolish speeding laws.
I have drank, I do not want to abolish drinking laws.
I have not worn a seat belt, I do not want to abolish seat belt laws.
I have looked at pornography, I do not want to abolish pornography laws.

As a result of the above, your logic is flawed.

(Just for my info, why do you qoute an entire post when it is directly below? Why don't you just qoute the parts of arguement that are peritnent to yours?)

Marine, look at his post. He said "the way" I take my opinions. Not the actual opinions I have. And I've already stated a few threads to go to for my opinions. Just because I'm here in another thread doesn't mean my standpoint doesn't matter. We don't always NEED to have opinions about things. Because then, when we change our mind, we end up becoming your archnemesis John Kerry.

PS-I am not a pot head just because I don't accept one biased opinion about marijuana, Bushsupporter.

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Originally posted by marine16:
"hahahahahaha wow! you know there are other sites besides the govt that say tobacoo is bad. Tons of doctors." - Bauhaus

"hahahahahaha wow! you know there are other sites besides the govt that say marijuana is bad. Tons of doctors." - Marine16

I see, so the people who are for legalizing marijuana can say...tobacco and alcohol are so much worse so we should legalize marijauan...but I can not elaborate on the the assumptions you people? It is okay for you people to compare tobacco to marijuana, but not me? I think I see a double standard. Wait a minute, i do see a double standard. i believe it is you who looks stupid.

I appreciate your advice to make a new thread about tobacco and marijuana being similiar and that it makes me look stupid comapring the two - but I have decided to not take heed to your advice. But I am greatful for it.

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I think tobacco is bad, although they do have organic tobacco which is better for you then the regular kind.


If you've ever smoked pot you wouldnt be here arguing against it. Instead you would be thinking about how much other stuff has been fed to you. And that reason alone is why its illegal. The govt doesnt want a bunch of people questioning the way it does things. It doesnt want a bunch of free thinking people. It wants sheep because without you people doing everything you're told. there would be chaos.

"hahahahahaha wow! you know there are other sites besides the govt that say tobacoo is bad. Tons of doctors." - Bauhaus

"hahahahahaha wow! you know there are other sites besides the govt that say marijuana is bad. Tons of doctors." - Marine16

I see, so the people who are for legalizing marijuana can say...tobacco and alcohol are so much worse so we should legalize marijauan...but I can not elaborate on the the assumptions you people? It is okay for you people to compare tobacco to marijuana, but not me? I think I see a double standard. Wait a minute, i do see a double standard. i believe it is you who looks stupid.

I appreciate your advice to make a new thread about tobacco and marijuana being similiar and that it makes me look stupid comapring the two - but I have decided to not take heed to your advice. But I am greatful for it.

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Originally posted by marine16:
So it looks to me that you people have to choose...
If you are to say government facts are biast regarding marijuana than you must stop using the government to prove tobacco is bad.
If you are to say government facts for tobacco are not biased, than you must say they are not bias towards tobacco.
The choice is yours, chose wisely.

So moovivor, can you provide me with proof that I said that? If not you are liar, and I will not respond to anything you said. Bushsupporters actions are not related to me in anyway. You bong smokers know all about saying your actions don't affect others.

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hahahahahaha wow! you know there are other sites besides the govt that say tobacoo is bad. Tons of doctors. I still don't understand why you are comparing tobacco and marijuana. If you want to tell us tobacco is bad then make a different thread about it. THIS IS NOT A THREAD ABOUT TOBACCO!!!!!!!! You are comparing candy and crack. Its making you look very stupid.


It seems like you believe everything the govt says. AS LONG as its republican/conservative. Shows where youd biases are.

YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU!

So it looks to me that you people have to choose...
If you are to say government facts are biast regarding marijuana than you must stop using the government to prove tobacco is bad.
If you are to say government facts for tobacco are not biased, than you must say they are not bias towards tobacco.
The choice is yours, chose wisely.

So moovivor, can you provide me with proof that I said that? If not you are liar, and I will not respond to anything you said. Bushsupporters actions are not related to me in anyway. You bong smokers know all about saying your actions don't affect others.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
If you pot-heads do not consider marijuana evidence that comes for the "government" valid, fine. But that will lead me to discard all government evidence on second-hand smoke, or even direct smoke.
Saying that is is wrong to consider governemnt evidence on a certain issue because of bias is wrong. If you think there is a conspiracy or that it is false, then provide evidence. I have not heard anyone say that the evidence if false.
If you cannot, then government evidence must be considered as valid along with all other evidence.

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I dont even smoke pot, and I think it should be legalized does that still make me a pot head? I've alreadt posted legit facts with legit medical sources.

Name calling isn't very nice Bush, you should work on that. Pot-head is not a nice term, you might consider using another type of term. Anyway, back to the issue. Government evidence is all bullsh*t anyway.

If you pot-heads do not consider marijuana evidence that comes for the "government" valid, fine. But that will lead me to discard all government evidence on second-hand smoke, or even direct smoke.
Saying that is is wrong to consider governemnt evidence on a certain issue because of bias is wrong. If you think there is a conspiracy or that it is false, then provide evidence. I have not heard anyone say that the evidence if false.
If you cannot, then government evidence must be considered as valid along with all other evidence.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
"Yeah marine, maybe you need counseling or something, he he he. Why are you so angry? can't we all just get along?"-Moovivor

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What? I didn't say that...

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Moo, I was simply doing an imitation. Some people do Elvis, I do you.

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My discussion with bushsupporter about this is over, but...
Unless you think both are pathetic and horrible or whatever (or that neither are), that's hypocrisy...

Barkid, how can tell who is a responsible drug user? How can you tell who is a responsible alcohol drinker? I can't. There is nothing physically wrong with them so there is no visual way to tell the difference between a responsible alcohol drinker and an irresposnible alcohol drinker.

Mariajuana will only be allowed for adults? That has worked out terribleyfor tobacco and alcohol, so why would be succesful for marijuana?

Making a no driving law will you do a lot of good as well, since nobody ever drives drunk.

Making sure it is done att he proper place and time is also a good suggestion since when you seel to someone you will have control over them not smoking marijuana the second they leave your store.

Many of the arguements you make for marijuana are addressed in the evidence I have provided. Plese take the time to read it before you make a claim that goes againt proven facts. Also, why is it you chose to compare marijuana to other substance when your liberal friends have deemed this an unfair, thus irrelevant, comparission?

THERICEGUY, if freedomordeaths opinions are so awesome perhaps you could show me where he resents an opinion. I am dying to see this because I can not find on single opinion from freedomordeath.

Freedomordeath, I am still waiting for an opinion from you...

"You are all hipocreitical idiots! I have so much proof and all you have is opinon! Conservative views are truth! Libral views are opinion!"-marine

Moovivor, pleae provide me a link to where I made this comment. If you can nto prove I said such a thing than you are committing libel. I might call people names, but I would never lie about what they said. You are a pathetic person if you have to lie your way trough life.

Yeah, I do agree with the legalization of marijuana. Alot of people think that they are trying to make marijuania legal to everyone and thats not what it is. They are trying to make marijuana legal for people who are sick and need it for medical purposes. My social studies class discussed the issue a little while ago during class one time. almost everyone in my class agreed that it should be legal for medical purposes. I believe that even if it is legalized that the world is not going to become a world full of druggies. I mean we all know what marijuana can do to your body if your not supposed to take it.

Marine's evidence is overwhelming if you are talking about "DRUGS" in general. My argument against the 10 facts below is that they are generalizing pot with cocaine, heroin, meth, and PCP. This is a common scare tactic of D.A.R.E. and the early anti-marijuana campaign that said people would "try to slip you marijuana" in place of a cigarette or cocktail. I honestly believe that pot is less dangerous than alchohol, not only for the users but for the general public that has to deal with the users. I don't see potheads getting stoned and starting fights like I see with drunks, I don't see potheads wrecking cars, and I don't see potheads getting girls high and then date-raping them. I also have never seen anyone overdose on pot or have withdrawl symptoms that required hospitalization (although alchohol can cause a trip to the hospital or the toilet very easily). I advocate that marijuana be legal just like tobacco or alchohol and have the following guidelines as set forth by NORML:

1) Adults Only
2) No driving
3) Proper place and time
4) Responsible users only
5) Respect those whom choose not to use

These same guidelines apply to both alchohol and tobacco, why not to another safe(r) substance that some of us prefer?

freedomordeath, your awesome. I love the name, the way you take your opinions and still dont force them onother people. cool man

Because, marine16, I do not have a full-fledged, fanatical opinions on some things. I am so sorry that I can understand two sides of an argument. I apologize for being open minded.

Besides, you're only using this and a few other threads. You obviously haven't checked out "The Holly Jones Story" for instance.