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Picture of clearVOICE
Registered: March 12, 2006
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Kinda but there is other stuff you get just from meat and soy has it's own problems also the essentials you find in soy are not as concentrated as those in meat so you have to eat more to get the same amount you would from say a chunk of lean beef


YEAH RIGHT. the only OTHER thing you get from beef is saturated fat!


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As a vegetarian myself I really believe that you are mistaken. I can get the proteins I need through other sources.
Also:
1. I HATE MEAT ITS GROSS
2. I HATE FISH ITS GROSS
3. EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
4. ITS VERY CRUEL TO ANIMALS!!

Also there is the chance that meat eaters could get very sick from their meat. I aren't bothered by it cause I don't eat meat.

ALSO:
1. If people didn't eat meat then there would be less farm animals and more room to plant crops for affordable and easily acessed food.
2. With the land we currently use for meat animals, if we used it for crops, we'd be able to feed the world three times over! WOW!

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Registered: February 22, 2004
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no good protein that is and not very much of it at that


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Registered: August 20, 2003
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Bread=NO PROTEIN
Dairy=NO PROTEIN


Are you kidding me? Read some labels.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Soy is a complete protein, meaning it has all 9 essential amino acids


Kinda but there is other stuff you get just from meat and soy has it's own problems also the essentials you find in soy are not as concentrated as those in meat so you have to eat more to get the same amount you would from say a chunk of lean beef

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All you have to do is eat lots of dairy or breads, and you get plenty of protein that you would normally get from meat.


Bread=NO PROTEIN
Dairy=NO PROTEIN

the only no-meat items that contain protein in any form are nuts (like peanuts) eggs (but some say those count as meat) and soy as mentioned below

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such as bread with peanut butter.


that will indeed get you some protein but the best source for them is lean meats


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Registered: August 20, 2003
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All you have to do is eat lots of dairy or breads, and you get plenty of protein that you would normally get from meat.


Don't forget your legumes! Vitamins would also be helpful once in a while.


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Registered: April 18, 2006
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I was a vegetarian for 7 years, I never had one health problem. All you have to do is eat lots of dairy or breads, and you get plenty of protein that you would normally get from meat.


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Registered: January 29, 2005
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That's not true. Soy is a complete protein, meaning it has all 9 essential amino acids. You can also get them from combining foods, such as bread with peanut butter.
I'm a vegan. I've talked to dieticians, spent hours researching, and talked to a lot of other vegetarians out there. You can get protein, calcium, b12, iron, and everything your body needs from sources other than meat.
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Registered: December 14, 2003
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These two unbiased sources prove that one can be healthy on a vegetarian/vegan diet, just as long as you eat the right things (any diet can be unhealthy if you eat too much of the wrong things and not enough of the right things) :
USDA on Vegetarian Diets
American Dietetic Association on Vegetarianism/Veganism
And this website has some good nutritional info for vegans: http://www.veganhealth.org


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Registered: December 10, 2003
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Thank You


No problem


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Thank You


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Registered: December 10, 2003
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I did not mean eat more meat Young just some to maintain a healthy diet you need tons of veggies and fruits, some grains and meat, healthy fats, dairy and as little processed food as humanly possible.



And I agree with that 100%


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I did not mean eat more meat Young just some to maintain a healthy diet you need tons of veggies and fruits, some grains and meat, healthy fats, dairy and as little processed food as humanly possible.


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Registered: December 10, 2003
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Well being that I'm not a vegetarian, I can't comment on the effects of being one; but the thing I can say it seems that vegetarians have more energy unlike the rest of human society that consume large quantities of meat every year. Yes our bodies need the essential amino acids from meat but eating more meat in the end hurts the body.*(red meats and pork anyway) Even then if you switch your diet to consuming more poultry, and fish, or turkey product instead of beef; you're still going to need those fruits and vegetables to balance out the body to keep it in a healthy running fashion.

My solution, make fruits and vegetables 70% of your dietary supplement, poultry/fish 15%*(with a little red meat every now and then), whole-grain(breads, rice, etc.)10%, and dairy products 5% to balance the scale(make sure to still take a multi-vitamin).

Hey but what do I know I'm not a health expert or anything.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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You already posted this once. And I'm still a vegetarian. Big Grin


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Registered: March 17, 2004
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Interesting.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I'd have to find it online but I learned most of it in classes and from a few books I'll have to dig it up.


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You're going to need proof... AKA sources...


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