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Picture of geminiangel521
Registered: August 17, 2001
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I actually agree with Joey on this one.

Illegal aliens are a major weight on the economy.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Maybe some sort of deal should be made. Like, they will be legal citizens, but they must work or else back to where they're from. I think the U.S. will benefit a lot with a system like that considering there are so many illegals in the U.S.

And we should also do that here in PR.


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Registered: July 16, 2004
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i agree with celtic. that would be a really cruel thing to do - even if they're doing something illegal. if you send them back, who knows what thier government will do to them? they might turn out to be good people who just need to make a good living or start a new life. i do think, however, that it is illegal & a very serious issue. some of the illegal aliens that do end up working here in the US turn out to be well under paid and cheated out of benefits that a legal worker would usually have. for thier own good, they should try to enter the US in the most legal way. that way, no one gets cheated.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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I’m seriously considering the idea that we should be sending illegals directly back to the country where they are a actual legal citizen.


That would be evil. Again, their countries are in deep ****, and they are seeking a better life.

I think that the U.S. should FORCE them to work, or something. They're gonna keep coming in, and thats something you must face, but if they work or something at least theyll be useful


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Picture of djmagnusa
Registered: January 18, 2003
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understand this. However, it does not justify them from breaking the law of a FOREIGN NATION.

We're losing billions annually just from the money sent/taken back with the aliens. It's gotten way out of hand.


I absolutely agree with Dr. on this one. When a countries money is taken out of circulation in its own country it weakens the economy big time In particular this is one area I tend to be more conservative then liberal. Something must be done and now. The one thing I have to say is this; I have seen an awful lot of talk from both sides about this problem and little to no solutions on how to stop the actual problem. Bush's immigration reform proposal that would allow millions of illegal immigrants to stay as guest workers is an actual policy decision I agree with Bush on. This at least gets the illegals into the system and brings tax revenue vs. them riding the system for free so to speak. This at least also offers them the legal protections they don't have and stops them from being exploited; which happens to a large amount illegals. While Bush's plan is good in that respect it doesn't stop the overall major problem, the actual source. I encourage people to actually start discussing what should be done stop the problem, instead of just identifying it as a problem.
I’m seriously considering the idea that we should be sending illegals directly back to the country where they are a actual legal citizen.

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Registered: June 03, 2004
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The U.S. isn't trying to keep immigrants out. Seriously, we pretty much have open borders. If they really wanted to keep immigrants out of the U.S. they would.

Joey, didn't Alex Jones do a post about that a while back? Just curious if you read that. If not I'll see if I can find it...


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Registered: July 28, 2003
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-----"""I understand this. However, it does not justify them from breaking the law of a FOREIGN NATION."""

God. Stop with the CAPITAL LETTERS.


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Your country is filled with people who aren't American, that's what makes it the U.S.

I have mixed feelings for this. In a way, I get angry at them for coming illegally and stealing $$$, in another, I just pity them


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Now, go to Mexico, see it. If you were one of them, you'd also be searching ways for a better life.



I understand this. However, it does not justify them from breaking the law of a FOREIGN NATION.

We're losing billions annually just from the money sent/taken back with the aliens. It's gotten way out of hand.

You could look at it this way: The illegal aliens are probably robbing the US education system of a few million in tax dollars annualy.


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Picture of CelticNewAger
Registered: December 11, 2003
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Joey, I understand your hatred for "aliens" (common, be honest, mexicans), since here in PR illegals come here from the Dominican Rep. by hundreds a day, and they pretty much screw up everything, just like you said.

Now, go to Mexico, see it. If you were one of them, you'd also be searching ways for a better life.


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