So we've established you don't like c-sections, but what do you think about things like epidurals for natural births?

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But if doctors really have an aversion to doing c-sections, then why has there been such a surge in surgical births?

Because women don't want to go through the pain and if a doctor doesn't want to do it the mother will take her bussiness elsewhere.

I'll say this again. I have NO problem with c-sections to save a baby or a woman's life. I realise that the technology has saved countless lives. But if doctors really have an aversion to doing c-sections, then why has there been such a surge in surgical births? I find it hard to believe that every one of those women was in as much danger as say, your mother was. what I object to is the idea of having a c-section when the mother and baby would be perfectly safe without it.

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Why do you have such a problem with this one?

because with out this one being around I wouldn't be here to debate it.

I do apologise if I'm coming off strongly but it is a rather personal issue to me.

Doc's don't like doing C-sections it's actually more dangerous than natural births. I have yet to hear of a Doc "pushing" a C-section on a woman. I also have yet to hear of a Doc being sued for a mother having a child naturally. Perhaps if the anesthesia goes wrong there's a mal-practice suit there but there's allways that chance when you get anesthesia for any procedure.

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Originally posted by ampmaster:

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What I think is that they are used way too much

would have killed me as well if they didn't have them.

It's actually safer for a Doctor to have the mother give birth naturally, it's more of a risk to have a C-section. Again it doens't matter what you think because it's a personal choice. so nose out.

Well excuse me for feeling stongly about something. How dare you say that my opinion doesn't matter? That's not even a good comeback. Just because it's a personal choice doesn't mean that people can't debate it. For gods sake I'm not suggesting we outlaw the damn things, I'm just saying I don't like them. We debate dozens of things on this site that are personal choices, from good books to abortions to religion. Why do you have such a problem with this one?

Yeah, I think I would say that I agree with emergency c-sections...not so much elective ones. When you have women picking out the day and time when they will have their baby, it just seems weird.

I guess ultimately it is the mother's choice, and never having had this experience, it's really not my place to pass judgment. It's not hurting anyone, let them do what they want.

With all the talk about it being someone's choice, there's something to be said for responsible doctors also. Many C-sections amount to little more than a form of cosmetic surgery if you think about it.

Choice is good, but doctors should not be so willing to go through with unneeded surgery.

Thinking about it, I also agree with amp. It is up to the mother what she wants. When I posted below I was just discussing the medical reasons and got so caught up with that I forgot about the mother's choice.

Yes it is her choice, but I think that women should be more educated in the risks involved in both vaginal and ceasarian births before they make their decision.

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What I think is that they are used way too much

would have killed me as well if they didn't have them.

It's actually safer for a Doctor to have the mother give birth naturally, it's more of a risk to have a C-section. Again it doens't matter what you think because it's a personal choice. so nose out.

I have nothing against c-sections if It will safe the life of the mother or baby. What I think is that they are used way too much, and doctor's push them on women because it's less of a hassle and they're less likely to get sued.

I was a C-section.

It saved my life and my moms.

If you want to get technical it saved my little sisters too.

But I agree. It's none of anyones business what the mother chooses or needs to do.

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What do you guys think?

I think you should get your nose out of other people's buisness. A C-section is an option that people can choose if they wish and as I said it's frankly none of your buisness.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Why must we always pass judgment on what people do and why? Can't we all just get along and stay out of other peoples' business?

No? Oh well.

Because I think that the medical industry is geared towards making women feel powerless over their own bodies and treats birthing mothers as defective machines (even if not conciously) that need to be fixed by the doctor. My mother had me at home with a midwife, nurse, and my father, and although it hurt like hell,she did fine. But for the past 75 years or so millions of pregnant woman have been told that they can't get through the ordeal of childbirth without all sorts of painkillers and inducers a tools and surgeries. It pisses me off.

Why must we always pass judgment on what people do and why? Can't we all just get along and stay out of other peoples' business?

No? Oh well.

If they create a new surgery method that made it less painful, would the people who used that method be considered wimpy? No, they'd be called idiots if they didn't. So if they come up with a way to make one of the most painful experiences in a womans life a little less awful, I say, why not.

i find that an amazing fact. I never would've guessed that it was 1/3 women that have c-sections. I think that number could definitely be decreased. but once again, I think it's all about the comfort level of what they want instead of doing it naturally and pushing the baby out. It's just how we've evolved i suppose...

Alright this topic actually just came up in my HHSC class and we have the same problem in Canada.

There are really on a few times that C-Sections should be used such as when the baby is above the placenta. This is a serious problem and both mother and child can die if its not fixed. However there are other ways such as massage theorpy that can sometimes fix this problem even before labour. Also if the baby is not in the right position and it could harm the child this is also a reason for a C-Section.

One of the main problems is that doctors find it much more time effiecent than natural birth. Also Mothers who have already had a C-section are often schedualed for another, even though the chances of needing a C-section after having one drops drastically.

There ARE other medical reasons for a C-section, but all of them combined does not warrants 1-3 women getting c-section.