1. no matter what you man kind is not a herbovore
2. neither is man kind a carnovore
3. man is an omnivore we need meat and veggies to survive properly

Now there are medical reasons to not be a vegitarian. The major one is that some animals and a few nuts produce 8 amino acids taht our bodys need to run properly. Our bodys can not make these 8 amino acids that are out of 22 called the essential amino acids. You can get a few of these 8 amino acids from some nuts but not in abundance. Now animals do produce all 8 of these amino acids in large quanitys and they are very much needed by your body.

end result: to make your body as sound as possible
1. eat a balanced diet of fruits, veggies, meats and breads
2. get the RDA of your nutrients
3. take a highly rated multi-vitmain
4. take a calcium supplement (especially the ladies among us take it now and prevent osteoperosis later ladies!)
5. exercise: play a sport or do something, anything at all just exercise!

*please note amp is only basicly trained all advice is subject to debate and amp is not responsable for any negative results incured from following his advice. This warning is in place as the advice above is medical in nature and amp does not need a law suit any time soon.

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But not all vegetarians are depressed though alot are.

If it's not because of vegetarianism, why are "a lot" of vegetarians depressed? I don't believe there's a connection at all, but why would you say there are lots of depressed vegetarians?

I know a fair amount of vegetarians, all to differing degrees and none of them are depressed, so I don't believe that lots of vegetarians are depressed.

I'm a vegetarian and depressed but know how to hide it....But I know why I'm depressed and it not the lack of meat...It's a lot of things going on in my family...Maybe you had a mental health problem that you didn't know about...But not all vegetarians are depressed though alot are.

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Originally posted by LoveTheRainbow:

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That what they told Einstein, Tolkien, Washington and plenty of other people.

But they proved them wrong. You have yet to prove anyone wrong.

Someone once told me that it was Qui-gon Jinn's spirit at the end of "Jedi" instead of Anakin's and i proved them wrong.

This is a board.
What would be the point of going out with an attempt to prove someone wrong?
In fact, why must we prove anything to anyone?

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That what they told Einstein, Tolkien, Washington and plenty of other people.

But they proved them wrong. You have yet to prove anyone wrong.

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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:
Well.... I've come to the conclusion that you are completely and utterly stupid.

That what they told Einstein, Tolkien, Washington and plenty of other people.

You're not the first, EG.

Well.... I've come to the conclusion that you are completely and utterly stupid.

Then shes on some different herbs...if you catch my meaning. Also if your so unhappy consider the following: You a conjoined twin. Your twin is gay, your not. Tonight your friend has a date and you only have one ass...are you happier now?

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Vegetarians arent happy...most of em' are just crazy I should know I was one for a while.

Well then that was your problem. My roommate here at school is a strict vegetarian and she's all bubbly and happy and it pisses me off. She's always smiling and excited about something. She goes out meeting people and is making friends, I sit at home depressed, terrified of socializing. I, the non-vegetarian, am not happy. At all. Therefore, I should know that meat-eaters aren't happy, because I am one.

You're just generalizing. I've never ever heard of a diet making someone happy, sad, weird or crazy. Ever. Life experiences make people happy, sad, weird or crazy. If you being vegetarian made you sad, that sucks, but I don't believe it was the diet that caused it, unless you weren't getting enough b vitamins or fat.

Seriously, I hope you can read. I'm NOT a vegetarian and I am unhappy. I'm very, very weird too. And damn proud of that fact.

Vegetarians arent happy...most of em' are just crazy I should know I was one for a while.

I'm a vegetarian... And when I want to eat right, I'm healthy...I know that there are amino acids that are missed when being a vegetarian, but it's a way of life and people choose it for different reasons. Though I'm not going to be as healthy as a "HEALTHY" omnivore, I can be healthier than most...Many Americans eat fast food as their serving of meat and that's even more unhealthy than a vegetarian...
I'm a vegetarian because I can't eat meat... The thought of an aniaml being killed makes me uneasy...I've had teachers talk about how they kill the animals for food in calss, and even had to watch it done...I got sick to my stomach and almost passed out...Until my doctor spacifically says I need to eat meat...I'm not going to... And until it kills someone I know, there is no reason not to be a vegetarian even if it is medically stated.

By calling humans grazers I don't mean we should go into our backyards and chew grass for hours. I mean that we need to eat small quantities of food often throughout the day. Yes, we're hunter-gatherers, but to have a healthy metabolism, we need to graze.

Humans aren't grazers. We were hunter-gatherers before the agricultural revolution came about and made it possible to cut meat out of the diet.

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Let me ask you something: Have you ever met a happy vegitarion? No you have not there is no such thing! If you dont eat meat you wont feel as good and wont be as healthy and you sure as hell wont be as happy. At best a vegitarian is weird. I have meet some non-depressed vegetarians but they are weird.

I hope you're joking...

I'm a meat eater and I feel like shit 24/7. There. I just proved you wrong. I went on an all veggie diet for a whole month once, and I felt great. My metabolism wasn't out of whack, I had the best bowel movements of my life, and I lost about 20 pounds. But the temptations of Taco Bell brought me back. My heart hurts, I get frequent headaches and I'm tired all the time. What you just said is complete bull. I may go semi-vegetarian soon.

Meat is good for you, yes. Lean steaks, fish and poultry, not cold cuts, bologna, or hamburger. None of that processed crap. Calves liver is supposedly the healthiest meat you can get. But vegetables and fruits are better. You can get the essential amino acids, vitamins and minerals from brightly colored fruits, veggies and nuts that can "cure" depression or at least lessen it. Humans are grazers, we should be eating lots of plant matter thoughout the day and moderate amounts of unprocessed meat. That type of diet won't make you weird. No diet will make you weird. Being weird makes you weird.

Besides, everyone is weird.

Let me ask you something: Have you ever met a happy vegitarion? No you have not there is no such thing! If you dont eat meat you wont feel as good and wont be as healthy and you sure as hell wont be as happy. At best a vegitarian is weird. I have meet some non-depressed vegetarians but they are weird.

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E. coli 0157:H7

If you are afraid to eat meat or vegetables for fear of being contaminated by bacteria, you are a fool. Just dont eat at all and die quicker so the rest of us can get on with our lives. Bacteria are living things too you know. You claim to care so much about living things. Well guess what they are too. oh hmmm what an interesting quandry we seemed to have reached. You dont eat meat and those bacteria that couldnt survived off you now die. Now, I'm not some stupid hippie who believes everything is black and white, good or bad. I'm not saying we should start a save the Eco RI fund. IM JUST USING PLAIN SCIENCE AND REASON.

Bacteria are a part of nature. We are omnivores by nature. we are meant to eat meat AND vegetables. If we are healthy you wont have to worry about getting sick off meat or vegetables as much as someone who doesnt receive proper nutrients.

You're not helping the environment by not eating meat. in fact, you're doing nothing at all. Your one pathetic little protest really has no effect on anything in the long run. The cows are already dead before they reach the shelf. It's not like you say HEY I WONT EAT MEAT, and the meat industry suddenly implodes.

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My friend, who loved meat and drank only non-organic milk, and I were talking and the issue of hormones came up. I explained to her about hormones and how their bad for you. She seemed offended and stood up and said "Well, I've drank nothing but regular milk my entire life, and look at me! I'm just fine!" I then took a look at her c-cup, and thought about how she started her period in 4th grade, and held my tongue.

I find that statement humorous.
"Hormones are bad for you..."
it's sad that such a bunch of biologically, medically, and scientifically inept children could believe this garbage and outright drivel.

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Did you know meat also contains hormones?

Aren't vegetables engineered with hormones too, which is why they now last longer and grow larger?