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Picture of EarthGoddess
Registered: January 15, 2003
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That opens my mind but i do think i save lives


Considering the number of animals that get plowed into the Earth when your soybeans and other ruffage gets harvested... I'd say you don't.
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Originally posted by Ikki14Reed:
A brief note on eating dogs:

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In some countries, apart from being kept as pets, certain breeds of dogs are raised on farms and slaughtered for their meat. Dog meat may be as an alternative source of meat or for specific medicinal benefits attributed to various parts of a dog. In parts of the world where dogs are kept as pets, people generally consider the use of dogs for food to be a social taboo. Articles supporting the right to eat dog meat have appeared in the Western press.


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IS this is america??? And to me it's a lifestyle. Yes it could be diet to others and also a religion i think 7th day advetist? But to me it's a lifestlyle. We all have different points of niew and yours (clpo13) i really admire. That opens my mind but i do think i save lives and i understamd the fact the hole world could be vegetarian but there still be one person who eats meat.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Vegetarianism is not a diet it's a lifestyle


It can be a lifestyle, but it can also just be as simple as not eating meat, which is a dietary choice. Of course, I could also say that diets are lifestyles, but I don't really think that anyways.

Veganism is more of the lifestyle, since that often requires major changes outside of a diet. Vegetarianism, on the other hand, doesn't need to be that drastic.

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Im in it for the saving animals lives.


And that makes it a lifestyle. But other people may just be vegetarian for health reasons, which makes it a diet. In fact, it's possible to be a conscientious meat-eater, by buying free range meat, so you're not eating meat from exploited or abused animals. Yes, it's still killing an animal, but that's nature. If you don't eat that cow, someone else will. Heck, if it wasn't on a farm, it'd probably get eaten by a wolf or bear. Who knows? The fact is this: not eating meat does not equal saving the lives of animals. It's nice to think, but the animals are going to die somehow. It's perfectly natural to eat animals. I'm not saying you have to, but you can't criticize people for doing the natural thing.


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Anyways EG r u agreeing with me cause well i cant tell if you still attacking me or....


No one is attacking you.
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A brief note on eating dogs:

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In some countries, apart from being kept as pets, certain breeds of dogs are raised on farms and slaughtered for their meat. Dog meat may be as an alternative source of meat or for specific medicinal benefits attributed to various parts of a dog. In parts of the world where dogs are kept as pets, people generally consider the use of dogs for food to be a social taboo. Articles supporting the right to eat dog meat have appeared in the Western press.


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i mean c'mon would you eat your dog


yes as a matter of fact I would and have eaten dog.


Go back to your exotic platter. (It serves turtle snake and alligator dont ask how i know that) It makes sence to me now. ANd yes i meant living thing sorry i hate i make typos but you basicaly got the point. Anyways EG r u agreeing with me cause well i cant tell if you still attacking me or....

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i mean c'mon would you eat your dog


yes as a matter of fact I would and have eaten dog. I wouldn't eat my dog. but that's because he provides services beyond food, which is why we usually don't eat horses or dairy cows.


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I'm an omnivore


Hurray for omnivores! Smile


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A person saving other animals lives not going on a diet to lose weight.


That's not what a diet is...



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(besides eating healthy i mean eating meat is healthy in some disgusting way so being a carnivore is a diet??)


Considering a diet is simply what you choose to eat, not what you lose weight with, then yes. Anyway, I'm an omnivore, not a carnivore. I enjoy rare steaks with a side of peas and carrots. Mmmmmm. I'd even eat a steak out of the garbage they taste so good.
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Their a leaving breathing living animal.


I suppose you mean that they're a living breathing thing. You know, plants are living things as well. Wink


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Well to me it is my lifestyle. Its what i live.
It is the way i live. And you can even get the persident of peta to tell me its a diet i will think about it but to me it will be a lifestyle. A person saving other animals lives not going on a diet to lose weight. Oh it's about doing this and that and being healthy blah blah blah. Im in it for the saving animals lives. Not eating a face, i mean c'mon would you eat your dog. Their a leaving breathing living animal. They dont bleed green. So figure out a way to tell me (besides eating healthy i mean eating meat is healthy in some disgusting way so being a carnivore is a diet??) Yea give me more than that. And that ladies and gentlemen is the sound of...idk what it was but it sounds weird go check it out


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The heavy thud you just heard boys and girls was the sound of a dictionary smashing delusions of grandeur


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Diet:

1 a : food and drink regularly provided or consumed b : habitual nourishment
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No. I've heard them all already and none of them are really that compelling. You can be just as healthy on a diet that includes meat as you can on a diet without any meat. In fact, a diet with a bit of meat would probably be healthier since it's a more well-rounded than a diet that completely cuts out an entire food group. It'd be like completely abandoning grains. Taking things out of your diet doesn't help any more than simply moderating those things. As long as you don't go overboard on red meat, you'll be fine. Exercise doesn't hurt, either.

Come to think of it, the "meat is bad" argument is really the only one I've heard recently, so I guess, if you want, you can list out the other reasons.


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People find it really hard to go vegan or vegetarian but you have to REALLY have self disipline and try REALLY hard.


True, but that alone isn't a reason to become one. It's all about desire. Not everyone wants to give up meat, especially when they don't see any good reason.


I can think no i know of several. U want me to name em?


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MOD EDIT: cbrandy, when posting, please contribute more to the thread than just quoting something that someone else has said. This is not the first time this has happened. Thanks.

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RECYCLE PLEASE!!!!
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People find it really hard to go vegan or vegetarian but you have to REALLY have self disipline and try REALLY hard.


True, but that alone isn't a reason to become one. It's all about desire. Not everyone wants to give up meat, especially when they don't see any good reason.


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People find it really hard to go vegan or vegetarian but you have to REALLY have self disipline and try REALLY hard.


Not always. It's easy when you get sick of and develop a taste aversion to the only meat you actually like the taste of.

So about this aging thing...
I have genes for looking younger than my age. If I age faster, maybe I'll actually LOOK my age? Hmm...


Wow i never thought of that. I think it's aging faster because it's the lack of something. Something meat has. And yea if you get sick of meat, or get use to the taste. Like i've trained my self to eat salad without any dressing whatsoever. Not even ranch. And I rarely put vinergar or vinigarette. Anyways being both vegab and vegetarian and also a carnivore are things hard to do but there are also different types of vegetarians:

Total Vegetarians eat only plant food. They do not eat any animal foods, including fish, eggs, dairy products, and honey.
Vegans not only omit all animal products from their diets, but they also eliminate them from the rest of their life. Vegans use nothing from animals, such as leather, wool, and silk.
Lacto-Vegetarians will include dairy products into their diet of plant food.
Lacto-Ovo-Vegetarians eat both eggs and dairy products.
Pesco-Vegetarians include fish into their diets.
Pollo-Vegetarians eat poultry, such as chicken, turkey, and duck.

Then i heard of semi-vegetarian wich they do eat meat but they do it like once a week or monthe or so. I don't exactly remember.


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People find it really hard to go vegan or vegetarian but you have to REALLY have self disipline and try REALLY hard.


Not always. It's easy when you get sick of and develop a taste aversion to the only meat you actually like the taste of.

So about this aging thing...
I have genes for looking younger than my age. If I age faster, maybe I'll actually LOOK my age? Hmm...


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