I hate missionaries. I don't think they are orientated at helping the sick and such, I think they are colonialist and all they really want to do is destroy cultures that have existed long before christianity in the name of "helping the poor africans who can't help themselves" I think that it's great to help other nations. But you should go there to aid them to become independent on their own terms. Not exactly like the west.

Stop the "Church Trips"!!!

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Isn't this, you know, illegal? Harassment, bullying, grievous bodily harm, psychological trauma choose what you will.

lol, Yeah it should be, but like letsstop said it's not unless someone is seriously injured or killed. Sometimes hazing consists of forcing people to sit in buckets of icewater and forcing them to drink a lot (see the movie, W. lol) Sometimes they treat the new recruits like horsies and ride on them. Sometimes they just beat them up. It's called 'pledging.' It shows how loyal you are or some crap. They just do it because it's a 'tradition.'

I'm not sure if there are fraternities in boarding schools. I don't think there are because frat houses and sororities are prevalent in college life and are not involved with secondary education. Generally most boarding schools, like yours are probably to strict to allow things that promote beating on people and binge drinking.

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The sarcastic tone means that I'm wrong, right? So it's twenty one everywhere?

In the US the drinking age is 21 everywhere as far as I know despite what some would like to believe.

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Isn't this, you know, illegal? Harassment, bullying, grievous bodily harm, psychological trauma choose what you will

yes, some of it is illegal...that is if the person decides to actually tell or if a situation gets outta hand (like if someone does die during the hazing) The thing is these people that want to join are so thouroghly dedicated most of the time that they just let this hazing slide cuz they just see it as necessary to being part of this social group. The reason that this hazing may be considered legal is because the participant has the choice to be there and they can give up trying to join the fraternity/sorority at any time. Therefore alot of the hazing is considered voluntary so it's not technically illegal. When they start to physically harm u without consent or after u have already given up trying to join then it becomes illegal. i wish i knew how to explain this better, i'm sorry if i've confused you more.

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Does this mean that there are fraternities in boarding schools? I used to go to boarding school in the UK where we had houses, but these were fairly intensively monitored so that having parties ('DON'T YOU DARE USE THE WORD PARTY AS A VERB IN THIS SHOP' - Black Books anyone?) was basically out of the question.

I am fairly sure that they don't exist in boarding schools. I'm sure Wolfie will clarify for u if i'm wrong though.

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but i'm sure he's knows all about the nation minimum drinking age act.

The sarcastic tone means that I'm wrong, right? So it's twenty one everywhere?

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the new people get treated like crap for a few months (this is called 'hazing' and some people have been killed during it) after this they are considered members.

Isn't this, you know, illegal? Harassment, bullying, grievous bodily harm, psychological trauma choose what you will.

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unless u live in a boarding school

Does this mean that there are fraternities in boarding schools? I used to go to boarding school in the UK where we had houses, but these were fairly intensively monitored so that having parties ('DON'T YOU DARE USE THE WORD PARTY AS A VERB IN THIS SHOP' - Black Books anyone?) was basically out of the question.

yeah so i guess WV gets less money because of their under 21 drinking age, unless of course this is another instance in which romashu doesn't know what he's talking about. but i'm sure he's knows all about the nation minimum drinking age act.

fraternities are just college clubs where people live in their fraternity house or sorority. it's supposedly a way to make 'life-long' friends but those things are stupid and not many people join them anymore. only a small percent of the college population. basically the new people get treated like crap for a few months (this is called 'hazing' and some people have been killed during it) after this they are considered members. frat houses are known for parties but not all of them party. ^.-

i was refering to drunkeness in general. there are no such things as high school faternities theyre cliuqes when refering to highschool but unless u live in a boarding school you dont live on campus.
you can start college when you recieve a diploma, GED, or start an undergraduate program in which you may start college as a junoir for undergrad progams but you can only take up to 2 college classes. alcohol becomes legal at different ages depending on the state like my state lowered the age to 18 were as wolfie's conneticut may still have it at 21. and finally idk about ur last question.

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Fraternities (for boys) and sororities (for girls) are groups of dumb kids in college that like to party. It's like a club. In order to get in either your parents were in it or you just try to join. Then you do a pledge period where the members initiate you by treating you like crap and doing horrible things to you.

Are they around in general life? Or is it just for university (and Romashu said something about highschool, but I'm not sure if that was just general drunkenness or an example of highschool fraternities)? And how, on earth, did they come about? And (with even more incredulity) why do people continue to join?

Remind me at what age your universities begin (on average)? And what age does alcohol become legal? I am led to understand that this varies between states, but is it almost universally 21? Isn't there something to be said for lowering this to a more sensible age to get people adjusted to having alcohol?

yeah, those are all examples of people who drink in order to get fucked up. duh. way to agree.

im allowed to go to a few peoples houses but there are also people who drink to: forget, Relieve the pain of depression, "act cool" or because u think it makes u look cool, to binge, cause theyre addicted, or just for the hell of it.

wow you're highschool is cheesy as fuck. what a cliche group of bozos.

Lol, so you've been to high school parties and yet you say 'there are idiots out there who drink to get drunk.' lol isn't that the only reason young people drink. the only reason people drink to begin with is to feel the effects of inebriation.

stop acting like you've been to parties. you say in other posts your parents don't even let you stay over friends houses.

noob.

oh and i do know people who do put lamp shades over there heads during parties like tht. and its only highschool parties. heel theres even a couple idiots tht drink on field trips.

hve to be stupid to begin with to drink tht much alone. there are idiots out there who drink to get tht drunk.

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Originally posted by Romashu:
Usually someone gets soo drunk tht they just take the nearest lampshade and put it over their head. there is no real meaning for it it just happens.

u'd have to be pretty drunk to even do something that stupid lol

Don't listen to Romashu- he's never partied.

People don't fucking put lampshades on their heads. It's just what they do in the movies to show how drunk and silly they are.

Fraternities (for boys) and sororities (for girls) are groups of dumb kids in college that like to party. It's like a club. In order to get in either your parents were in it or you just try to join. Then you do a pledge period where the members initiate you by treating you like crap and doing horrible things to you.

It's stupid. It's mainly for dumb jocks.

Usually someone gets soo drunk tht they just take the nearest lampshade and put it over their head. there is no real meaning for it it just happens.

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lol uve never heard of frat parties have u.

Heard of them only - we don't have fraternities in the UK. What exactly is their function? This was another bit of the education system that I just don't understand.

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togas lamp shades over someones head

I grasp the point of beer pong, but I'm not entirely sure why this would be fun? Unless there's something euphemistic about lamp shade? I don't think that's likely, but its about the only way I can translate this into some sort of drunken-'frat'-party entertainment.

beer pong is when you set up 10 cups of beer on two opposite sides of a table. two people on each side then take turns throwing ping pong balls at the opposing sides cups. if you land a ball in someone's beer cup they have to drink the beer.

there's a bunch of stupid rules that go with it.

it's basically a fun way for people to get drunk.

brehon- toga toga- is from the american movie animal house. it's about fraternity houses partying and getting drunk.

romashu- you said that skeleton thing because you don't have any idea how the human body operates.

plz. explain beer pong cuz i don't know what it is. i have a good idea but i really honestly am not sure. (lol sorry if that sounds really stupid)

whta i meant with the crtilage thing wasnt to insult u but u three plus me are not the only ones on this web site not everyone would know about cartilage because they dont think its nessicarry to know about.

lol uve never heard of frat parties have u. togas lamp shades over someones head beer pong etc.?

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then you said you don't see how evolution could cause a 'brown cow to eat green grass and produce white milk.' again, wtf. what did that have to do with evolution... nothing.


No were did i say that i didnt understand why tht is i was using it as an example of how complex our genetic codes are and how tht couldnt possibly hve come from a single explosion or a single cell organism evolving.

You said this here:
http://boards.youthnoise.com/e...84663/m/98010855/p/3

I think that Wolfie's point is that this is not actually any kind of argument. It's a commonly employed method of avoiding arguments by constantly questioning. Typically the discussion will go something like: 'Why is this that? Why is that? Why is the other? Therefore God must have done it.' The only problem with this approach is that if any momentary pause were to occur, then any vaguely educated person could step in: why does a cow eat green grass and produce white milk? Answer, because the digestive process reconfigure the grass into various other substances that end up, via a long and complex process, as something completely different. The basic question that the green-white-brown-grass-cow-milk-beef example pulls up is 'why are there different coloured things?' and not anything at all to do with evolution.

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it was simplified for people who couldnt understand what cartilige is.

I find this rather insulting. Is there any point at which we have seemed to be unable to understand what cartilage is? At least, I assume that's what you were talking about, otherwise I've just proved your point by mistaking cartilige for cartilage. There is a point at which typing speed could be sacrificed for clarity- just a hint. It might go a long way in pacifying Wolfie...

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ya pary party toga toga toga

I may just be a backward imperialistic British person, but what exactly does this mean? Why are togas connected to parties? Unless you're having some kind of Platonic Symposium?