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Registered: May 03, 2005
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Military force would be a conceivable solution.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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What really bothers me is how a solution can really be found. This is one of the cases in which I am not opposed to using militaristic force, but I'm not sure if that would even help the situation or just make things worse.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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quote: Originally posted by Saturnmoth007: I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but there is nothing we can do to help the people of Darfur.
Did you not read my post? WE can't do much about it. But we can do SOMETHING. Spreading the word and telling people about it is pretty important. In order for something to happen, we need the public to start putting pressure on our political leaders.
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Registered: May 03, 2005
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Personally, I think there should be something done. but we oursleves cannot do it.
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Registered: May 03, 2005
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I don't mean to sound pessimistic, but there is nothing we can do to help the people of Darfur.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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hey finn ~ I'm glad you wanna do something to help. That means alot.  It is unfortunate that "us little people" can't do a whole lot to change whats happening. But I did suggest something a while back in one of my posts. There is a site that has a lot of information and things you can do to raise awareness about this issue. I think right now thats the most important thing we can do. If more people know about the atrocities going on in Sudan, then there will be a bigger push from the people to get something done over there. Anyway, enough of my blabbing...here's my old post, it kind of explains it. quote: And even better, there are ways for us to get involved in raising awareness and even writing to our government. This is the best and most important thing we can do right now considering most of us our still in high school or college. The fact that there are a scarce amount of people who have even heard about this is just sad and alarming. This has been raging on for over 3 years. We all should be aware of this. Anyway, here's where you can go to get involved: click here! Click on "high school students" or "college students" depending on where you fall. Although I recommend clicking on college b/c there is more there.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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I really want to do something about the genocide in Darfur, but I cannot think of anything that is in my power to do.
Yeah. Write to the senators. Rick Santorum and Arlen Specter are not worth writing to.
But really. If anyone can think of something that a bunch of us could seriously do, shout it out.
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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quote: Originally posted by THEAARONMATSON: screw darfur
I pity you.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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Darfur is already screwed you daft piece of shit. Must people really create accounts just for the mere purpose of wasting space? Anyway, for those who DO care, here is another update. No good news unfortunately. In fact, I foresee this war spreading internationally by 2007 if these peace-keeping deals continue to fail like this. quote: Sudan under pressure to accept UN Darfur mission - 7/14/2006 Reuters
World powers will next week press Sudan to accept a United Nations peacekeeping mission in Darfur amid reports of increasing violence in the province. Tens of thousands have been killed and 2.5 million people forced into camps during three years of rape, murder and pillage in Darfur, in lawless western Sudan. A conference in Brussels on Tuesday attended by the European Union, the United States and U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan will urge Sudan to allow a U.N. mission to replace an ill-equipped and over-extended African Union force in an attempt to stop the violence. "A U.N. operation is the only viable and realistic option in Darfur in the long term," the European Union will say on the eve of the meeting according to a draft declaration obtained by Reuters.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
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I totally agree Youthvoice! Politics just gets in the way of humanity sometimes. Its so sickening to think of all those UN leaders reclining in their leather chairs, eating hor-deurves(?) and brainstorming new ways on how to tell the Sudanese gov't to "please stop killing people or we will go in there...but only if you let us." Meanwhile, hundreds or thousands of people are dying trying to fight for their lives. 
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Registered: January 16, 2003
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I'm back! Oh I am so glad that more and more people are finding out about the atrocities that are happening in Darfur. There is so much that needs to be done. It makes me so happy to see that others want to do something about it too. But it is frustrating to see that all the Sudanese government and the UN do is talk while so many suffer.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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No! no no no no... argh! Why does this have to be a US responsibility?? There are what...5000000000 other countries in this ridiculous world and they do absolutely nothing? The useless UN are the ones we are supposed to be looking to for support on this issue, but hence, they are useless. Our country is not "choosing" its battles per say. Our decision to go into Iraq began before the crisis in Darfur even started. We can't just change our minds and say "oh well" to Iraq. Thats just absurd.
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Registered: August 04, 2002
Posts: 258
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This is very sad but the USA must learn to choose its battles more carefully.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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vertical~ this has nothing to do with Iraq. Please don't try to make this thread into a political argument about that. I'm sure there are plenty of those around here anyway. In any case, it is difficult to put a priority on things like this. There are so many despicable things going on in our world, you can't just put them on a list of 1 to 10. But despite the issues that are going on with our own country, the rest of the world has the power to step in and do something. The UN has actually set DATES to take over the AU peacekeeping mission several times and the Sudanese government constantly rejects them. They just recently set another date for January 2007, but something tells me thats not going to be very effective either. God do I hate politics! Its so fucking obvious that the government are the ones persecuting their OWN people! And stupid UN is just allowing them to pull their chain around. It pisses me off ~ when is someone just gonna go into that damn country and punch all those Sudanese bitches out?? The more time we give them, the more people die, and the more the Sudanese government gets their "oh so wonderful" goal accomplished. Here's some more interesting news about those bastards: quote: Sudan: Government to Lobby Rwanda On Darfur - 6/30/2006 The New Times (Kigali)
The Sudanese government is planning to send a delegation to Rwanda in its efforts to seek support from African countries in a bid to block a United Nations peacekeeping force from going to Darfur."Rwanda and Burundi are good countries and are near us. We shall also go there to seek for their support against the proposal to replace the African Union peacekeeping forces with those of the United Nations. We shall go there like we are doing to other countries so that we can be supported in our efforts to block these troops from coming to Darfur," he said. aka- "so that we can be supported in our efforts to kill all the black people in our holy country and not let anybody get in our way"
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Registered: September 22, 2004
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I believe that Darfur is an absolutely necessary action. I certainly believe that it should have priority over Iraq and other useless and aimless wars.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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I felt like we needed an update on what's happening with Darfur. Not too much except talk still, but I found a statement that pretty much sums up why there hasn't been much improvement. quote: 6/23/06 The United States plans to keep pressing for an international force in Sudan's war-torn Darfur province, despite fierce opposition from Sudanese President Omar al-Beshir. But two years after dubbing the government repression in Darfur as "genocide," and six weeks after the signing of the Abuja peace accord, the United States has not yet managed to get the international community to budge, while violence rages on, experts say. "I think our diplomacy is going to be consistent," State Department spokesperson Adam Ereli said on Wednesday. "It's based on a strong and unified international consensus, frankly, that the current peacekeeping mission in Darfur must be transitioned to a UN force." Washington has considerable support for deploying a UN force to the region, including that of UN Secretary General Kofi Annan, Nigerian President Olusegun Obasanjo, the AU, the European Union and Nato, an expert said. But the support is not unanimous. "The Sudanese are taking advantage of certain factors. They are able to draw support from within the Arab League, they are able to play their friendship with the Chinese and the Russians in the Security Council, ... they are able to play off the fallout of the war in Iraq, ... and they are advantaged by the fact that AU itself is divided and is intimidated," Stephen Morrison of the Centre for Strategic and International Studies said.
U.N. Leader Downplays Sudan Rejection - 6/22/2006 Associated Press
The head of U.N. peacekeeping downplayed the Sudanese president's rejection of a U.N. mission for Darfur Wednesday, saying it was not the end of the story. President Omar al-Bashir on Tuesday accused Jewish groups of pressing for the U.N. mission, and vowed never to let U.N. peacekeepers into Sudan's western region of Darfur. "Obviously, we would like to hear a different opinion," U.N. peacekeeping chief Jean-Marie Gehenno told The Associated Press shortly after meeting al-Bashir. "We want to believe that this is not the end of the road." Gehenno said he had assured the Sudanese president that the UN had no "hidden agenda." "There are many misunderstandings about the U.N.'s goals in Darfur that we are trying to solve with the Sudanese government," said Gehenno. In Washington, State Department spokesman Adam Ereli pressed for Sudan to accept the U.N. force. "As long as violence continues in Darfur, the Sudanese Government is going to be held responsible, regardless of the circumstances," the spokesman said.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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quote: It just seems as if we're the world's police again. We can't stay out of foreign affairs and doing this going to get us into major trouble. We can't help everybody!
Yes, but if peace is the greater good, we as a responsible and sympathetic developed country should have the ethics to know that this is a situation in which there should be action. Sitting around isn't helping anyone in this dilemma. This is not comparable to the US invading Iraq, the invasion was for our own good while any invasion in Sudan would be for the good of others.
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Registered: February 26, 2002
Posts: 976
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We can't just help ourselves. I think the world needs to stop being so selfish and realize that every human being on this planet is everyone's responsibility. Nobody had a choice in what country they were born into. Just because we were all born in a priveleged country doesn't mean we should just sit back, be comfortable with it, and deny others the kind of lives we have. We, as an entire human race, have a duty to do whatever we can to prevent crimes against humanity. And if its true that the US are the only ones that will do something, then if we don't do anything, who will? I think that gives us even more incentive.
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Registered: September 22, 2004
Posts: 889
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It just seems as if we're the world's police again. We can't stay out of foreign affairs and doing this going to get us into major trouble. We can't help everybody!
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Registered: February 22, 2004
Posts: 13958
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your right we shouldn't be in Iraq right now, daddy bush should've had the balls to go to bagdhad in the first gulf war
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