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Picture of ampmaster
Registered: February 22, 2004
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any one know anything about the sengoku(warring states) era of japan I'm looking for info for a project


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Registered: December 13, 2006
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There are specialized books for the warring states era but the orgins of the bushido and bakufu (or Shogunate system) government style, which led to the waring states, started in the Kamakura Period. You can find a lot of stuff online, just google the Kamakura period, and search Muromachi and Azuchi-Momoyama Period for warring states era.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Just in general. I'm more up on the warrior traditions themselves. (I study them as part of my martial arts school's "learn from every source of wisdom" policy)


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Kamakura? or Muromachi period? Volume 4 of the Cambridge History of Japan is a great reference, i have been reading them for quite some time, interesting stuff.


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In turth Bushido was perverted in WW2 if any of those men had been following Bushido things like the Rape of Naking and the Bataan Death March would not have happened. Bushido is an Honor Code meant to guide the lives of a group of Elite Warriors to Martial Success and Spritual Purity. Tojo watered Bushido down to something everyone can do and changed it so that "Honor" was doing anything the military asked for like the Kamikazis or the slaughter of Chinese Civilians, not to mention the use of biological warfare in manchuria


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Hey that was all good stuff the japanese command in WW2 perverted the code of Bushido and came up with that load of crap


It wasn't perverted, it was used by the state. Japan is what happens when a nation industrializes but retains ideas of group cooperation and the diefication of the ruler. This is why Japan is not allowed to have an army. This is why I have very little regard for the Japanese culture.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Hey that was all good stuff the japanese command in WW2 perverted the code of Bushido and came up with that load of crap


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In books it's called the "Warring States Period." It refers to the intermedary period in (I think) The fifteen hundreds, when the imperial Yamato court at Kyoto (sp?) dwindled to a ceremonial position, the nobles when out into the fields and battled for about two hundred years. They deserted cities, built castles in the countryside, and fought over the precious farmands of Japan amoung themselves. The person who actually ended the period and became the shogun was actually the son of a peasant.

In this period begins the fanatical loyalty to the lord, the warrior ethic, and the ninja. All the joyous things that manafested themselves in WWII.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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yeah it's more commonly Translated as "The Warring States Era"


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I remember that Sengoku Jidai means 'the age of the country at war'.


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All I know comes from Shogun Total War.
That game was fantastic.


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