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Registered: August 13, 2004
Posts: 58
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Their is this hill in Michigan that if you put a car in nuetral at the bottom, it will go up it on its own to the church parking lot at the top. They say it is trying to draw ppl back to it, but I don't know if that part is true. And if you put a coin on the bottom it will go up it to, it is really cool.
Lindz
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Registered: July 30, 2003
Posts: 97
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I wish I could defy gravity... Love is the one thing you can never do wrong.
love is the one thing you can never do wrong
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Registered: May 19, 2004
Posts: 2013
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The History Channel had a special on something exactly like this. It aired a few years back, though.
Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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Registered: November 22, 2004
Posts: 750
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This is tight, I wish we had a gravity vortex here at the office.
"Mac, you ever been in love?" - "No, I've been a bartender all my life."
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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Okay, don't. But it's what a lot of people would tell you anyway. I make a point to not overwhelm people. Most of this stuff is all for and by our peers. Those that have a hectic and strenuous and time-consuming lifestyle can't sit there everyday reading a 1.5 page quote about gravitational phenomenons.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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I dont want to get into personal insults. sorry.
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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Long and extensive quotes like that, no. I don't bother. People assume that just because some expert said something, it's always true. And people could summarize it themselves, using specific and the more valuable parts of quotes.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 23, 2004
Posts: 30
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Anything like that that can be easily explained with science is amazing. Yet, it turns into scam once people charge money for you to see it. Another example is magicians. You can search online and find out all of their tricks, but the appeal is when you pay for it and see it live.
Illiud Latine dici non potest - You can't say that in Latin
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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Kharybdis posted it and it explains the whole thing as well as lists some locations. Couldnt you just read it instead of asking what it is?
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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What was that?
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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quote:
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Updated May 1998 by PEG. Original by Philip Gibbs 1996.
I know a place where things seem to roll uphill. How does it work?
Sometimes you may find or hear of a mysterious place where objects can apparently roll uphill. This is a remarkably common illusion which is found in numerous locations around the world. Usually it is a stretch of road in a hilly area where the level horizon is obscured. Objects such as trees and walls that normally provide visual clues to the true vertical, may be leaning slightly. This creates an optical illusion making a slight downhill look like an uphill slope. Objects may appear to roll uphill. Sometimes rivers even seem to flow against gravity.
Spots where the illusion is especially powerful often become tourist attractions. Tour guides may like to claim that the effect is a mystery or that it is due to magnetic or gravitational anomalies or even that it is a paranormal phenomenon that science cannot explain. This is not true of course. Natural anomalies can only be detected with sensitive equipment and cannot account for these places but science can easily explain them as optical illusions.
There are several things that enable us to sense which way is up. The balance mechanism in our inner ears is one system we have, but visual clues are also important and can be overriding. If the horizon cannot be seen or is not level then we may be fooled by objects that we expect to be vertical but which aren't really. False perspective may also play a role. If a line of trees get larger or smaller with distance away, our sense of perspective is thrown off. Objects far away may seem smaller or larger than they really are.
People often overestimate the angle of a slope. If you are standing on a slope of 1 degrees it will seem like a slope of 5 degrees and if you stand on a slope of 5 degrees it may seem like you are on a slope of 30 degrees. Because of this effect the anti-gravity illusion can seem stronger than it should be even when you know the cause.
Even when the true cause is understood it can be difficult to believe. In some cases the sea horizon is partly visible and it seems incredible that the effect can be an illusion. If you think there is a magnetic anomaly just use two plumb lines, one made of iron and one of stone. They would hang at different angles if a strong magnetic field was acting horizontally. In fact magnetic anomalies are never that strong and are never the cause as is easily shown.
However, it is not always easy to demonstrate that a slope that appears to go uphill is really going downhill. Plumb lines and spirit levels cannot be relied on if you think there is a gravitational anomaly. If the slope runs parallel to a seaview it would be possible to compare a plumb line with the horizon. Otherwise the only reliable way of determining the true horizontal is by careful surveying. If a good topographical map of the area is available it may be sufficient to show which way the land is really sloping. The results will confirm the illusion. Gravitational anomalies are always very small. In any case, if there was a gravitational anomaly you should wonder how you would notice it. There would be an equal effect on your sense of balance as there is on any object. The anomaly would not be apparent unless there was a clear view of the sea behind the slope, which there never is.
A search on the web turned up a surprising number of examples of this illusion. Most are natural while others have been constructed in theme parks. Below is an incomplete list of the natural ones for those who want to visit. Many thanks to those who have sent more site details for this list. Do check locations are correct before making a long journey and remember that it may be dangerous or illegal to stop or reverse your car on slip roads and bends!
* Mystery Spot Road, off Branciforte Dr. Santa Cruz, CA, USA. A spot 50m in diameter in the redwoods of the Santa Cruz Mountains * Mystery Spot, Putney Road, Benzie County, Michigan, USA. * Gravity Hill, Northwest Baltimore County, USA. along a public road that ran through the Soldier's Delight environmental area. * Gravity Hill, Mooresville, Southwest Indianapolis, USA. Located off SR 42 on the South side of Mooresville. * Gravity Road, Ewing Road exit ramp off Route 208, Franklin Lakes, USA. * Mystery Hill, Blowing Rock, hwy 321, Carolina, USA. * Confusion Hill, Idelwild Park, Ligonier, Pennsylvania, USA. * Gravity Hill, off of State Route 96 just south of New Paris, Bedford County, Pennsylvania, USA. * Gravity Hill (near White's Hill) , just South of Rennick Road, on County Truck U, South of Shullsburg, in LaFayette County, Wisconsin, USA * Oregon Vortex, near Gold-Hill, Grants Pass, Oregon, USA. * Spook Hill, North Wales Drive, North Avenue, Lake Wales, Florida, USA. * Spook Hill, Gapland Road just outside Burkittsville, Gapland (Frederick County), Maryland, USA. * Magnetic Hill, Near Neepawa in Manitoba, Canada. * Magnetic Mountain, just off the Trans Canada highway, Moncton, New Brunswick, Canada. * Gravity Hill, on McKee Rd. just before Ledgeview Golf Course in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Canada. * Electric Brae, on the A719, Near Croy Bay, South of Ayr, Ayeshire, Scotland. * Anti-Gravity Hill, Straws Lane Road, Wood-End, Near hanging rock, Victoria, Australia * Morgan Lewis Hill, St Andrew, Barbados. * Hill South of Rome, in Colli Albani, near Frascati, Italy. * Malveira da Serra, on N247 coast road West of Lisbon, Portugal * Mount Penteli, on a road to Mount Penteli, Athens, Greece * Mount Halla, on the 1.100 highway a few miles south of the airport, near Mount Halla, on the island of Cheju Do, South Korea
References:
"Skeptical Inquirer", Vol 16, No. 1, 1991; an article about the illusion at Spook Hill.
"Seeing Is Believing? Haunted Shacks, Mystery Spots, and Other Delightful Phenomena" by Chris Banta
- Physics FAQ: Rolling Uphill Illusion
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Registered: June 02, 2004
Posts: 8339
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There is a "Magnetic Hill" in Canada that does something similar to that. But I don't know if anyone has said that already-sorry if it is a repeat.
Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: February 18, 2004
Posts: 3177
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sounds intereting, but the sites make them sound like urban legends.
Hope for the best and expect the worst............take whatever life throws at you...
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Registered: May 06, 2003
Posts: 252
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I felt like finding some facts about the Oregon Vortex so that you could know more about it. I hope to visit it someday as it isnt too far away. first websitesecond website
"Today is a gift... That is why it is called THE PRESENT." -Ziggy
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Registered: October 06, 2004
Posts: 3372
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There is a house like that in California. It's all an optical illusion. THere is no such thing as "weaker gravity," we can move against gravity, by the laws of string theory, because gravity is not bound to this "plane" or dimension.
O of where dost thou hail, Celephanil, Celephanil? Why dost thou wander in Tengelwar great, why on the sea do you sail?
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1396
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It's strictly an optical illusion; there is no "weaker gravity".
Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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Registered: September 22, 2004
Posts: 889
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No, the hill thing is actually true. It's not really defying gravity though. It's sort of like an optical illusion and a pocket of weaker gravity.
"Take risks and never regret them."
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Registered: February 28, 2003
Posts: 57
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"Defy Gravity" ??? I think some one likes Wicked God knows it rocks my socks. Lanna
I said "How 'bout a Revolution?" And he said "Right"
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Registered: September 11, 2004
Posts: 150
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Hmm..that sounds very hard to believe. Though I do believe alternating gravity is possible.
"Drop out of school before your mind rots from our mediocre educational system" Frank Zappa
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Registered: June 09, 2003
Posts: 5084
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quote: You haven't. It's no vortex. The people who said it was were mistaken or lying
I will someday, ya? Spatula: Why is it cool I'm from Oregon? (Besides the fact that Oregon is the coolest state in the whole US)
None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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