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Picture of porchvill
Registered: September 13, 2006
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Love marriage Vs Arranged marriage: which should prevail?
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Love marriage Vs Arranged marriage: which should prevail?


Is this a goof? No one will argue that Arranged marriages should prevail.


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Can you imagine how much easier that would make things?!


only if it would be guranteed that the person of our dreams (ie prince charming, sleeping beauty, whatever) would be the person we're getting set up with


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I wouldn't like it. Of course, I've always been one to make my own choices, though, knowing my parents, their choice would probably depend entirely on my preferences.


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I don't know about anyone else...but I almost wish we still had arranged marriages. Can you imagine how much easier that would make things?!


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i think it's just hard for me to grasp the concept of a 13y.o. fine with marriage at that age.


expand your mind


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yeah i guess that's true... i think it's just hard for me to grasp the concept of a 13y.o. fine with marriage at that age.


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especially when it happens to a CHILD


but they weren't children they at 13 were the equivlent of us in our twentys


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arranging to marry off your daughter at birth? funny how they don't have the same rules for the boys.


They did. The fathers arranged marriages for their (usually) very young children. It was a business transaction, it's not as though the bride or the groom had anything really to say on the matter.


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead **Vice President of the ITGHMC** http://tinyurl.com/393qnr
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yeah, i guess... i dunno, i guess i've just been brought up to reject the idea of arranged marriages, and especially when it happens to a CHILD. it may be normal for that time period, but it isn't going to stop 20thC me from recoiling in horror from it.


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Originally posted by Meagan87:
this means that by Christian tradition, the Virgin Mary could have been as young as 12 1/2 years old.


... ohkay that's just wrong.


not really considering that in that time period, you were an old man if you lived to 30 and at my own current age I would likely rate master in some trade, have a succesful (hopefully) buisness and have several children


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It's false

Oh good. I was really worried about a few of those girls


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Originally posted by Meagan87:
this means that by Christian tradition, the Virgin Mary could have been as young as 12 1/2 years old.


... ohkay that's just wrong.

arranging to marry off your daughter at birth? funny how they don't have the same rules for the boys. i wonder what would have happened if the girls just decided not to go through with it. been disowned, probably.


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Darn, Ikki beat me to it. Wink

I am actually taking a class all about marriage. (Theology of Christian marriage) We are looking at the historical and current trends in marriage, as well as looking at the religious context of marriage among different religions.

When marriage first began, it was a contractual agreement. The concept of the father walking down the aisle with the bride and "giving her away" was nothing more than the exchange of goods and dowry. The phrase "If anyone here has a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your piece..." asked anyone knowing of any other deals the father of the bride had struck with other potential spouses, to speak to it. At that point everyone would argue about financial contracts. When the groom carried the bride over the threshold of the marital home, it simply meant that he was bringing another of his possessions into the home. It's amazing how all of these charming little traditions are some of the most sexist things ever.

Marrying for love is a very current trend. Throughout history, it was common for fathers to arrange marriages upon birth of their children, and for them to get married as young as 12 1/2 for girls and 13 for boys. As we connected in class today, this means that by Christian tradition, the Virgin Mary could have been as young as 12 1/2 years old.

If any of you ever get the chance to take a religion of marriage class, I highly recommend it. I was dreading it, but it is really interesting.


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead **Vice President of the ITGHMC** http://tinyurl.com/393qnr
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I agree with bcampbell201, you shouldn't force someone to marry someone they don't love. It's unethical.


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Really what is the point of an arrange marriage? Is there a benefit, what you need your children to get married? I say let people be who they want to be and love who they want to love.


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thank god.


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Good news:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/marryourdaughter.asp

It's false.


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meh. i get the feeling that if they did know about it *and agreed to it* they would only have agreed to it because they've been brought up to expect nothing more from life.
oh, and if you browse around a bit, they justify themselves with the bible and various *somewhat obscure* bits and pieces of american law.

god bless america indeed.


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speaking of arranged marriages, has anyone ever heard of the site www.marryourdaughter.com? it is, in my opinion, one of the worst sites there are, in terms of offered services. it is akin to a light in the dark for paedophiliac moths.


So I'm just looking at that site and I have a few questions:

1. Do the daughters know about this?
2. Isn't it unethical (or illegal, even) to sell other people?
3. Why doesn't the site have an age minimum of at LEAST 16, but preferably 18?


While waiting for the promised "best four years of [my] life" (Various People), I found YouthNoise. http://tinyurl.com/2kbx5p
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