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Picture of gayquestionnare
Registered: August 15, 2004
Posts: 421
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well depressed if someone is offered pot and declines it, they probably did it for a reason right? They know it is wrong. You won't always be there to keep them from the pot and the job of a parent is to make sure that if they ever come up against something in the real world they know whether to say yes or no and keeping them locked away from society doesn't do that. And Gibbons the only reason I don't "do some serious damage" is because I know in my heart it is wrong to hit people not because I know they are right (and because my dad could kick my little a**). I don't agree with half of what my parents say or do but I would never hit them ever.


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: June 22, 2004
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MalibuBarbi6088,
In the post you rant and rave about your mom, all I can say is I know what you're going through. I am almost seventeen and my mom is the exact same way. Shen treats me like I am five and then tells me to grow up but I don't see how she expects me to grow up if she heeps on being overbearing and overprotective of me. Plus, she does all those other things too.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
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Registered: August 17, 2003
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Oh yeah, I'm home alone right now and LOVIN it....I must cherish it; my mom, sis and sis's bf will be home very soon...."My time" will end soon................................i wanna get my own house.


"Do it"
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Registered: August 17, 2003
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Good points...I hate it when that happens....I guess I agree w/ all of that, reluctantly. I just hate my mom sometimes to the point where idc if she's right I just want her get out of my life (or my room, or whereever her nose is that its not supoposed to be).

I don't have a problem w/ all parents...just my mom. I think my dad's parenting is as close to perfect as it can get. He doesn't let me do everything I want but he's a lot more leinient than my mom and he knows what he's doing. When i go shopping w/ him he let's me go wherever i want, with my mom I am not aloud to 'wander' by myself...I'm 15 for heaven's sake not 5! my dad let's me go to friend's houses, my mom doesn't "feel like driving" me there. Bullsh*t she just doesn't want me to have fun...even a party that is going to be completely harmless, chaparoned even, she doesn't want me to go. With my mom i don't think it's a matter of protecting, it's a matter of control. She manipulates every person in her life and if she's not having fun, no one else can.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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i dont have to put up with my fam today, my brothers gone surfing, my sis is with my mom at my grandmas house, and my father is working


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: June 09, 2003
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MalibuBarbie: I know what you mean, about letting them loose for a while, but if you let them loose one time.... it might be that one time that it happens. That one in twenty pregnancies. That one in three addictions to meth. That one in five deaths due to a drunk driver. It could be that one time. I know they should cut you some slack, but shouldn't you cut them some, too? They're doing the best they can.


(Disclaimer: Statistics are not based on fact and should not be thrown in Wavemaster's face. Thank you.)


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: August 08, 2003
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OK, we have to relize that parents are weird. They will always be curious and overprotecting. That's just they way they are. It's like this unwritten rule or something that allows parents to get away with invading privacy, breaking there own rules, be totally unfair and basically ruin our lives anyway possible. And why do you let them get away with it is my question? We're younger and stronger and could probably cause some serious damage. I think it's because deep down we know they're right. We know that they are just trying to protect us from what they think is wrong or dangerous. But of course there are some parents who just like to have controll and be mean. And they're the ones who should be taken down. kidding! Trust and tolerate your parents as much as you can. They're just trying to do there job as a parent.
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some good points depressedwavemaster but if a parent doesn't give thier chils slack and let them do things and expereince things for themselves. Parents should let their kids try some drugs....they should let them try alcohol the more sheltered a child is the more likely they are to do it all at once when they get older putting themselves in more danger.

Did you ever notice that the children of a minister, pastor, or any religious figure who are highly sheltered from the world grow up to be bad sometimes? (not all the time, but very often) They didn't get to have fun as youths so they relive thier teenage years when they move out. The pastor's daughter gorws up to be a prostitute and his son is the local drug dealer or pimp. That obviously is a very extreme case but it happens all too often.


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Registered: March 29, 2003
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gayqusetionanaire..

just one thing i know u were typing withour your glasses but anyway my name is sudha and sufta or whatever uve said...


Dont let ur studies interfere with ur education!!!!!
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Registered: June 09, 2003
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But if they let you go a little way, you could go too far. They're too afraid of that happening! I have a brother, and I feel like a father to him, seeing as my dad doesn't do much for us. I want the best for him. I don't like what he's doing in his free time, but I trust him enough to make his own decisions. I don't have the authority a parent has, but I have more knowledge then they'll ever get, of him. He's been offered pot. And he's declined. He has morals. And he has friens without morals. I really want to trust him to do his own thing, be his own person, for he is just trying to find who he is, but at the same time I'm scared. I don't want to see him hurt. This thing with his girlfriend isn't going to last forever. His friends aren't going to stay. He might be offered marijuana again, and this time he might not decline. He could get in trouble with the law or with families. There's so much that could happen, and I'm so afraid. Afraid to the point, that--if I were a parent--I'd lock him in his room, tie him to the floor and never let him see the opposite gender or any drug-dealing friend ever again. It's just because I care. Your parents care too, and they're afraid for you. They're afraid that if you drive drunk, you'll get in a crash and die. They're afraid that if you sleep around, you'll get someone pregnant, or get pregnant yourself. They're afraid, that if you become your own person, they'll lose the child they've loved ever since you came into being. They're afraid to let go. Don't make it harder by pushing them away.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: August 17, 2003
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Amen, gayquestionnare...I agree there is a fine line and parents either cross it to the point of over-crossing (if that makes sense) and other parents don't come close enough to the line, letting their kids do anything they want.


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Registered: August 15, 2004
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Oh and I want to apologize if there are like millions of typos but I can't find my glasses and I am typing from knowledge of a keyboard so I can't re-read what I have typed to spell check it or read to use the spell check feature. Ciao ;d


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: August 15, 2004
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Sufha sorry to bug but to remind them that their duty to us is what? And I am not being mean or anything that statement stumped me and I am curious to find out what you meant by it. Anyways I agree that parents have certain responsibilities protecting us from the world or "babying us" (wavemaster) won't prepare us for the real world. The real world is cold harsh and cruel for the most part and Wavemaster is right we won't be babied for long. We shouldn't then be babied now if we are ever going to get acclimated to the real world. I would have no problem with my parents leaving me alone and letting me go to school and work and everything and just stay out of my life. That is the real world. Yes I have had a job too so that is talking from experience. I am glad they get involved but there is a line between involvement and babying. As well as a line between protecting and invading of the privacy. Listening through the door or on the other line, or digging through my dresser drawers for notes to read about my life is CROSSING that line. I am very open with my mom. I can tell her almost anything and yet she still doesn't trust me. Like they always say, "If you don't know what's best for you, I do."


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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Registered: March 29, 2003
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'''I think parents should let their kids experiment. The less they allow them to do the more curious they are going to be'''

that shud be written on everyparents bedroom door or closet something that constantly reminds them of their duties toward us...


Dont let ur studies interfere with ur education!!!!!
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Registered: August 17, 2003
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I think parents should let their kids experiment. The less they allow them to do the more curious they are going to be. If they let them have their fun and make their mistakes when they are young (as long as it doesnt get TOO far) the kids will be better shaped and molded for their future. if their parents shelter them they are likely to do all the bad stuff as soon as they are 18 and ruin their lives at a crutial point in their career/educational future.


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Registered: June 09, 2003
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They're just trying to protect you. Even though you might not see it that way, and they might not see it your way, they're doing the best they can. With each child, it's different, and with each child it's a challenge. It's a new experience, being a parent. You want your child to grow up happy, healthy, bright and educated. You don't want them to throw their life away, and you don't want them to even have the chance to do so. They're just trying to keep you from the world. Let them. You won't be waited on for much longer.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: August 17, 2003
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parents suck! my mom is way over-bearing and she knows more than she should about my life, despite the fact that I deny everything, and the only reason she knows is b/c she listens thro the door when I'm on the phone...that is just low and wrong in every way. No matter what, a parent should not invade privacy THAT much.


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Registered: March 23, 2004
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My advice is to read "Parent in Control" by Gregory Bodemhamer. He works with some fascist pmrc affiliated organization, and published several books advising parents on how to get their kids in line, so to speak. Several years ago when I was attending highschool, one of my friends mom began socializing with my mother and loaned her a copy of the book. Before she read it I got to it and it has quite a bit of useful strategies for dealing with most parents; though it intends them to be used on teens.

ps change your avatar, i am becoming ill
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Registered: June 22, 2004
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Sometimes my is cool but there are things that I don't like. She just needs to back off and ease up on me. She gives me the third degree about my whole life and she wonders why I don't ever talk to her. I mean I am a good kid and everything but I just keep telling myself only one more and I am gone, only one more year and I am gone.


I have not yet reached my goal, and I am not perfect. But Christ has taken hold of me. So I keep on running and struggling to take hold of the prize. My friends, I don't feel that I have already arrived. But I forget what is behind, and I struggle for wha
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Registered: August 15, 2004
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I think you have all brought up some good points. While I am sure my parents wouldn't totally disown me or anything because of the things that I might tell them I do not think they would treat me the same. I.E. I would have a 6 pm curfew. My step mom is really great but I don't live with her and my dad anymore I live with my mom and step dad. I think my parents being divorced might have a lot to do with it but I don't know. I feel for Star my mom is the same way. I constantly think to myself just one more year just one more year.Anyways thanks you guys for posting and keep fighting the good fights.


In my lifetime I have been to bed with men, women, and odd pieces of furniture....Oh and my avatar says "The only abnormality is the inability to LOVE!"
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